Deuce Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I doubt a player of his particular abilities would get the time of day here if he weren't named Andy Carroll. A good player, but he's overrated by many on this board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 A good player, but he's overrated by many on this board. That'll happen when you've got a player who's undeniably brilliant at attacking balls at head height and a squad that needs such a player so much it's beyond anything resembling a laughing matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 So who do we go after now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Someone tall and cheap who can often boss Ligue 1 players in the air, would be my guess. Don't see how it could possibly go wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Completely torn on a possible Carroll return. As has been said, with our current setup we're crying out for a player exactly like him. If we are going to insist on keeping Pardew as manager then we really need a player like Carroll. I'd rather get a new manager and target other kinds of players though, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Bafemtimbi Gomis would be my guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 How do Liverpool factor in the £20m loss into their transfer scoue-a-matics? His current net value on their books is £17.5 million! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Why not Wilfried Bony then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealios Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Anyone saying that Carroll is not worth £15m is off their bonce tbh. New Sky deal means all transfers are going to be massively inflated this summer, so £15m fee now is probably less than £10m in old money. £10m for an England striker in his early 20's? If Carroll plays like he has for West Ham (and for us) he will be back in the England squad next year. Anyone thinking we're better suited to a forward who can help us carpet-football it around the likes of Arsenal and Man City are mad. We have some of those already, and I don't really want to wait another season where an untried gets used to the Premier League. We need someone like Carroll so that we have an option. The trick is coaching or buying defenders who do not panic and lump it to him at every single opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 He was picked for the current England squad, that means fuck all, I'd have wept had we signed Emile Heskey 6 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I just think it'd be a backwards step for us to sign him. At £15m I bet Carr could get two or three decent players who will improve us more than Carroll. Yes, he might suit our particular brand of hoofball but in my opinion the solution is not to sign someone who will allow us to play more effective hoofball, it's to stop playing hoofball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 A few differing opinions on here, personally i think he's underated and a much better player than some think. That said i wouldn't spend £15m on him because of the amount of games he misses through injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Out until October according to the Mail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 He's scoring record so far for WHam is just under 1 in 4, Carlton Cole's is just over 1 in 4. Also, apart from 2 assists against already relegated Reading at home on the last day of the season he managed 2 assists all season. Same as Carlton Cole. Now, i'm not saying he definitely wouldn't be a success here, but given the money being talked about, i would say there are other players worth taking a risk on. And the first criteria would be, don't look for a player who spends his time in recuperation from injury as a piss artist. You know, just your basic professional attitude required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I know you shouldn't take the word of a snake-oil merchant like Allardyce, but didn't he say something like them not being able to afford him and comply with the FFP rules? Of course they can afford him,West Ham are looking for a reduction from the agreed price. It always seemed to me like bullshit West Ham could not afford him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 He simply doesn't score enough goals to warrant a 15m price tag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 He simply doesn't score enough goals to warrant a 15m price tag. The Mail article reckons we would only have to pay 11.25m thanks to a 25% sell-on clause: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2328889/Andy-Carroll-injury-keeps-months.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Just to put this into perspective, £15m this season would have bought any of the following: Lukas Podolski Olivier Giroud Christian Benteke Victor Moses Demba Ba Dimitar Berbatov Wilfried Zaha Loic Remy Emmanuel Adebayor Clint Dempsey Shinji Kagawa That's just from the PL. Way better ways we could spend that cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 He simply doesn't score enough goals to warrant a 15m price tag. Use the West Ham scale they paid £5m for Maïga who got 2 league goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Carroll is obviously a handful in the air, but I'm not that convinced his hold up play would bring that much to our play. He's big but he's not very clever with the ball. I can remember even when he was here a lot of his flicks went into empty space. His main value was at set pieces where Nolan had time to get into the penalty area and latch onto the loose balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Just to put this into perspective, £15m this season would have bought any of the following: Lukas Podolski Olivier Giroud Christian Benteke Victor Moses Demba Ba Dimitar Berbatov Wilfried Zaha Loic Remy Emmanuel Adebayor Clint Dempsey Shinji Kagawa That's just from the PL. Way better ways we could spend that cash. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 He'd be better at getting on the end of the balls providing and holding it up on the pitch. Don't think he'd be any less isolated than Cisse has been though. He'd be crowded out no matter how big or imposing he is; based on this seasons tactical appraisal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Bony's on our radar according to reports in January and March. He'd be a good addition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Just to put this into perspective, £15m this season would have bought any of the following: Lukas Podolski Olivier Giroud Christian Benteke Victor Moses Demba Ba Dimitar Berbatov Wilfried Zaha Loic Remy Emmanuel Adebayor Clint Dempsey Shinji Kagawa That's just from the PL. Way better ways we could spend that cash. List is a bit pointless as one of them players actually wanted to leave to us and another knocked us back. Out of that list I reckon we could've signed of Dimitar Berbatov & Christian Benteke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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