Dr Venkman Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 if i wasnt a newcastle fan i'd be frankly staggered at the thought of paying 30m for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenum Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 As***y is a spurs fan and a businessman so unfortunatly the unthinkable may well happen as we've been raped so many times before by this awful regime. I'll be absolutely gutted if Newcastle sell Carroll. Our No. 9 is who they should build the team around. To be blunt I think the progression of Keane will be the new Smudge, and Bentley will be equal to Loven material. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Frankly I have to say I'm deeply concerned, the only thing that makes any sense to me in getting rid of Hughton and bringing in the underwhelming Pardew is that Ashley wanted a yes man. I thought from the moment Pardew was in that Carroll and possibly others were going, when Carroll failed a 'late fitness' test and then went to London for an MRI scan (that you can get anywhere no scan is better than another) I feared the worse. The fact that they thought of playing him against Wigan and then advise he is out for at least 3 weeks is odd in itself, the NUFC medical staff should be good enough to know the likely seriousness of any injuries. Sadly I can see this happening, I really hope I'm wrong, I think in many ways Carroll is irreplaceable for us and I just don't think the purported deal would justify things, certainly not in the January window. I can see your concern, but can we please not panic until there is at least some substance to this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rosstoon Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 The only way AC will go is a straight cash offer. Mike Ashley is not going to want to pay wages for2 or 3 other players who are all on more than Carroll. If Ashley wants to take us in the right direction he and Pardew need to play hardball and reject all offers and build the team around the core that we have at present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 £30m is a mental fee tbh. When you think Robinho's fee was more a statement from City than anything else, and Berbatov's fee was pushed up to stop them hijacking that too, this would easily be the biggest 'normal' transfer in British history. Would hate to lose him, but how could anyone knock that back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brazilianbob Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Quite where anyone gets the idea that Ashley is a selling "chairman" is beyond me. Which first teamers have we sold that (a) we wanted to keep or (b) the player wanted to stay? Ok we sold Martins but he was no loss was he? Viduka retired, and Owen ran his contract down. Habib Beye was no loss either as he wanted to go. As did Duff. All Ashley did was sell players who didn't fancy a spell in the Championship and who were all on massive wages. Common sense to me, but most fans are so blinded by their bigoted hatred of Ashley that they cannot see that any chairman/owner would do the same, and would be critisized if they did not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 The Championship. Key part of that post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Which players have we had that anyone else would have wanted though? Given and Bassong only two I can think of, both wanted away and both sold. Given for a pitiful amount to a club that could have paid way more. Rest of them you'd be struggling to give away. Given and Bassong both wanted to go, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalker Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Quite where anyone gets the idea that Ashley is a selling "chairman" is beyond me. Which first teamers have we sold that (a) we wanted to keep or (b) the player wanted to stay? Ok we sold Martins but he was no loss was he? Viduka retired, and Owen ran his contract down. Habib Beye was no loss either as he wanted to go. As did Duff. All Ashley did was sell players who didn't fancy a spell in the Championship and who were all on massive wages. Common sense to me, but most fans are so blinded by their bigoted hatred of Ashley that they cannot see that any chairman/owner would do the same, and would be critisized if they did not! Wasn't there quotes a while ago about the club's policy to buy young players and develop them then sell them for a profit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGSC Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Which players have we had that anyone else would have wanted though? Given and Bassong only two I can think of, both wanted away and both sold. Given for a pitiful amount to a club that could have paid way more. Rest of them you'd be struggling to give away. Given and Bassong both wanted to go, though. Exactly, whereas Carroll has just signed a long term contract and stated on more than one occasion he wants to stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 If there does turn out to be anything in this story (and it's highly unlikely), then it will have had absolutely nothing to do with him going to London for a scan. Most professional athletes go to London (or even further afield) for treatment. Sadly Harley Street just seems to have the best people nowadays. This is the old Geordie paranoia at it's very worst (thanks nufc.com) - wasn't he going to Man City last week anyway ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Quite where anyone gets the idea that Ashley is a selling "chairman" is beyond me. Which first teamers have we sold that (a) we wanted to keep or (b) the player wanted to stay? Ok we sold Martins but he was no loss was he? Viduka retired, and Owen ran his contract down. Habib Beye was no loss either as he wanted to go. As did Duff. All Ashley did was sell players who didn't fancy a spell in the Championship and who were all on massive wages. Common sense to me, but most fans are so blinded by their bigoted hatred of Ashley that they cannot see that any chairman/owner would do the same, and would be critisized if they did not! I have always thought that it was more by accident rather than design that we managed to retain so many players when we got relegated and that we would have sold more had Ashley not decided to sell the club and in the end they just ran out of time. Remember Ashley and Llambias basically abandoned the club for a couple of months whilst they concentrating on finding a buyer. I remember Colo's agent saying there were clubs interested in him but there was no-one at the club to talk to and other agents said something similar. Once the new season was upon them, the players that desperately wanted to go were shipped out but it is likely by that time, other potential buyers had turned elsewhere and were no longer interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 If there was a bid for Carroll of £30 million we'd be mental to turn it down. Doubt there is anything in it though. EDIT: Sorry, that sounds like I'm disappointed there isn't. Obviously I hope we keep him at all costs but £30 million is a stupid fee that we couldn't turn down. The only issue would be whether the club sees that cash or whether Ashley takes it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I need to stop starting this argument when I'm bored or people will think I'm genuinely on that side. Would've thought 'I feel he'd sell any player to get him off the wage bill and to make a profit. Therefore it's fact.' would've been a dead giveaway I was taking the piss tbh I'm impressed A nice haul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 If the club agrees to sell him, does Carroll have to go? If he doesnt want to himself he shouldnt.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 If the club agrees to sell him, does Carroll have to go? If he doesnt want to himself he shouldnt.. How often does that actually happen though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 If the club want to sell him of course he'd want to go. Why stay where you're not wanted, at a club going nowhere and showing fuck all ambition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 If the club want to sell him of course he'd want to go. Why stay where you're not wanted, at a club going nowhere and showing f*** all ambition? Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Pardew in today's Journal in an article primarily about Tiote: “I’d say he isn’t quite ready yet (to move to a “bigger” club), not as much as Andy (Carroll) would be anyway,” he says. “He takes risks, because he’s so strong. He can hold two or three players off, he gets himself booked. Jesus! Just shut up Pardew!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Signing Ben Arfa to make us all happy just before selling Carroll? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Signing Ben Arfa to make us all happy just before selling Carroll? Like night follows day, bad follows good in the Ashley decision making tree. Wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Pardew in today's Journal in an article primarily about Tiote: “I’d say he isn’t quite ready yet (to move to a “bigger” club), not as much as Andy (Carroll) would be anyway,” he says. “He takes risks, because he’s so strong. He can hold two or three players off, he gets himself booked. Jesus! Just shut up Pardew!!! I hate him so much when he's talking. I have problems finding words for that tbh. Hughton was so great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Bad feeling about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Spuds made an offer we told em NO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 SSN say we tell Spurs to fuck off after asking about Carroll. Keep it up lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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