wormy Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 But it's Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Surely even he realises that while Carroll's on side and happy it's probably more cost effective to keep him, especially as he won't be on a sky high contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 But it's Ashley. He's going to take the cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 As one person put it: "I would rather dish out free blow jobs to the homeless than sell Andy Carroll" Brilliant. And as another put it: Can\'t see it happening. Carroll doesnt want to leave yet, and to be fair, like most English players, is pretty over rated. He\'s no better than Kenwyn Jones imo, just probaly got a bit more fight in him. We don\'t need a CL striker as we have Super Crouch, who turns into one of the most un playable striker in the world when playing in Europe and for England. Saurez is a player I like, Benzema is more of a VdV player than lone striker, Fabiano is to old and I think Lloriente will go Madrid so I\'d be very happy with Saurez! :mackems: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 The bit in bold isn't the most idiotic part of the post IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 The bit in bold isn't the most idiotic part of the post IMO. Super Crouch, who turns into one of the most un playable striker in the world? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 But it's Ashley. He's going to take the cash. You got any proof of that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I just feel it. It's Ashley. Money grubbing bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 The bit in bold isn't the most idiotic part of the post IMO. You're actually not far wrong to be honest. That's the bit that tickled me the most though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I just feel it. It's Ashley. Money grubbing b******. in truth though it 's "money throwing cunt" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 But it's Ashley. He's going to take the cash. This line of thinking is so misguided and frankly quite annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I need to stop starting this argument when I'm bored or people will think I'm genuinely on that side. Would've thought 'I feel he'd sell any player to get him off the wage bill and to make a profit. Therefore it's fact.' would've been a dead giveaway I was taking the piss tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 BACKTRACKING Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lebowski Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Frankly I have to say I'm deeply concerned, the only thing that makes any sense to me in getting rid of Hughton and bringing in the underwhelming Pardew is that Ashley wanted a yes man. I thought from the moment Pardew was in that Carroll and possibly others were going, when Carroll failed a 'late fitness' test and then went to London for an MRI scan (that you can get anywhere no scan is better than another) I feared the worse. The fact that they thought of playing him against Wigan and then advise he is out for at least 3 weeks is odd in itself, the NUFC medical staff should be good enough to know the likely seriousness of any injuries. Sadly I can see this happening, I really hope I'm wrong, I think in many ways Carroll is irreplaceable for us and I just don't think the purported deal would justify things, certainly not in the January window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 if i wasnt a newcastle fan i'd be frankly staggered at the thought of paying 30m for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenum Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 As***y is a spurs fan and a businessman so unfortunatly the unthinkable may well happen as we've been raped so many times before by this awful regime. I'll be absolutely gutted if Newcastle sell Carroll. Our No. 9 is who they should build the team around. To be blunt I think the progression of Keane will be the new Smudge, and Bentley will be equal to Loven material. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Frankly I have to say I'm deeply concerned, the only thing that makes any sense to me in getting rid of Hughton and bringing in the underwhelming Pardew is that Ashley wanted a yes man. I thought from the moment Pardew was in that Carroll and possibly others were going, when Carroll failed a 'late fitness' test and then went to London for an MRI scan (that you can get anywhere no scan is better than another) I feared the worse. The fact that they thought of playing him against Wigan and then advise he is out for at least 3 weeks is odd in itself, the NUFC medical staff should be good enough to know the likely seriousness of any injuries. Sadly I can see this happening, I really hope I'm wrong, I think in many ways Carroll is irreplaceable for us and I just don't think the purported deal would justify things, certainly not in the January window. I can see your concern, but can we please not panic until there is at least some substance to this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rosstoon Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 The only way AC will go is a straight cash offer. Mike Ashley is not going to want to pay wages for2 or 3 other players who are all on more than Carroll. If Ashley wants to take us in the right direction he and Pardew need to play hardball and reject all offers and build the team around the core that we have at present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 £30m is a mental fee tbh. When you think Robinho's fee was more a statement from City than anything else, and Berbatov's fee was pushed up to stop them hijacking that too, this would easily be the biggest 'normal' transfer in British history. Would hate to lose him, but how could anyone knock that back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brazilianbob Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Quite where anyone gets the idea that Ashley is a selling "chairman" is beyond me. Which first teamers have we sold that (a) we wanted to keep or (b) the player wanted to stay? Ok we sold Martins but he was no loss was he? Viduka retired, and Owen ran his contract down. Habib Beye was no loss either as he wanted to go. As did Duff. All Ashley did was sell players who didn't fancy a spell in the Championship and who were all on massive wages. Common sense to me, but most fans are so blinded by their bigoted hatred of Ashley that they cannot see that any chairman/owner would do the same, and would be critisized if they did not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 The Championship. Key part of that post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Which players have we had that anyone else would have wanted though? Given and Bassong only two I can think of, both wanted away and both sold. Given for a pitiful amount to a club that could have paid way more. Rest of them you'd be struggling to give away. Given and Bassong both wanted to go, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalker Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Quite where anyone gets the idea that Ashley is a selling "chairman" is beyond me. Which first teamers have we sold that (a) we wanted to keep or (b) the player wanted to stay? Ok we sold Martins but he was no loss was he? Viduka retired, and Owen ran his contract down. Habib Beye was no loss either as he wanted to go. As did Duff. All Ashley did was sell players who didn't fancy a spell in the Championship and who were all on massive wages. Common sense to me, but most fans are so blinded by their bigoted hatred of Ashley that they cannot see that any chairman/owner would do the same, and would be critisized if they did not! Wasn't there quotes a while ago about the club's policy to buy young players and develop them then sell them for a profit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGSC Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Which players have we had that anyone else would have wanted though? Given and Bassong only two I can think of, both wanted away and both sold. Given for a pitiful amount to a club that could have paid way more. Rest of them you'd be struggling to give away. Given and Bassong both wanted to go, though. Exactly, whereas Carroll has just signed a long term contract and stated on more than one occasion he wants to stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 If there does turn out to be anything in this story (and it's highly unlikely), then it will have had absolutely nothing to do with him going to London for a scan. Most professional athletes go to London (or even further afield) for treatment. Sadly Harley Street just seems to have the best people nowadays. This is the old Geordie paranoia at it's very worst (thanks nufc.com) - wasn't he going to Man City last week anyway ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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