9 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 10.59pm. oh does it close at 11pm thank fuck for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Everyone now knows spurs have £40m to spend on a striker, there's no way Ashley will accept a penny less with the info at hand and I can't see anyone else with a top striker yielding either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Everyone now knows spurs have £40m to spend on a striker, there's no way Ashley will accept a penny less with the info at hand and I can't see anyone else with a top striker yielding either. I could see him selling for £40m. Why wouldn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Everyone now knows spurs have £40m to spend on a striker, there's no way Ashley will accept a penny less with the info at hand and I can't see anyone else with a top striker yielding either. I could see him selling for £40m. Why wouldn't he? hell i'd struggle to say no to 40m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Everyone now knows spurs have £40m to spend on a striker, there's no way Ashley will accept a penny less with the info at hand and I can't see anyone else with a top striker yielding either. I could see him selling for £40m. Why wouldn't he? That's not really the point like, point is Spurs have relieved how much cash they've got and how desperate they are for a striker. Ashley and others will want everything they've got, ie £40m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Everyone now knows spurs have £40m to spend on a striker, there's no way Ashley will accept a penny less with the info at hand and I can't see anyone else with a top striker yielding either. I could see him selling for £40m. Why wouldn't he? That's not really the point like, point is Spurs have relieved how much cash they've got and how desperate they are for a striker. Ashley and others will want everything they've got, ie £40m. This is Mike Ashley we're talking about. The one thing we can all be sure of with him is he's so far shown no track record of setimentality when it comes to cold, hard business. He'd go for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The Sun reckons Liverpool are in, 30m. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3380368/Liverpool-want-30m-Andy-Carroll-to-replace-Fernando-Torres.html Written by Rob Beasley who has appeared in the past to be close to Ashley, did his only newspaper interview etc. Looking a bit more feasible than the Spurs story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Suarez and Gerrard in exchange? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Will never ever happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 highly doubt they could get young for 15 and ac9 for 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 highly doubt they could get young for 15 and ac9 for 30 Throw in Kuyt and Poulsen though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 highly doubt they could get young for 15 and ac9 for 30 Throw in Kuyt and Poulsen though... I'd want an extra £20m on top if they threw those two into the deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 earlier from caulkin (Probably not even relevant, but thought I'd pass it on anyway. There has been no contact from #lfc re Andy Carroll. #Nufc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The thing is we just don't know what floats Ashley's boat. All we know is that he wants to run Newcastle as a business but for all that, Carroll might just be his favourite player and he might fancy having England's centre forward playing for his club. He might decide to toss a coin in the morning to decide whether to keep or sell. Who knows. I am just starting to get worried that this team that everyone has become so fond of is going to be broken up in the Summer. It is good that there is interest in Carroll, Enrique and Tiote plus if he continues in his current form possibly Colo because it obviously means we have some very good players and they are wanted by good clubs. Then of course if Ben Arfa proves to be the player we think he is, we will probably be worrying about losing him next January. If we keep the players, we could be at the start of something exciting but as ever is Ashley happy for us just to survive or does he want to improve year on year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The thing is we just don't know what floats Ashley's boat. All we know is that he wants to run Newcastle as a business but for all that, Carroll might just be his favourite player and he might fancy having England's centre forward playing for his club. He might decide to toss a coin in the morning to decide whether to keep or sell. Who knows. I am just starting to get worried that this team that everyone has become so fond of is going to be broken up in the Summer. It is good that there is interest in Carroll, Enrique and Tiote plus if he continues in his current form possibly Colo because it obviously means we have some very good players and they are wanted by good clubs. Then of course if Ben Arfa proves to be the player we think he is, we will probably be worrying about losing him next January. If we keep the players, we could be at the start of something exciting but as ever is Ashley happy for us just to survive or does he want to improve year on year. Agree with most of your post but I actually believe that if we have a loss of players like Carroll, Enrique and Tiote, it will ruin the club for years. We can afford ONE of them to go, maybe 2 if there are decent replacements, but if 3 or 4 go in the next 6 months it will send a message loud and clear that NUFC is just a nursery club for the big boys - we will find it increasingly difficult to sign top class experienced players and even the best youngsters will shy away. Naturally, the loss of players of this calibre is going to affect the team performances badly - we could even be relegated and its back to square 1. Having said that, it would be very difficult to stop Carroll leaving if he really wanted to because players in his position are so sought after - that doesn't mean ALL the best players should be allowed to go. NUFC are too big to be a Burnley(who used to sell their young stars in the 60s/70s). There is a very fine line between balancing the books and being a nursery - as you say, we don't know what Ashley really wants, but IF he wants out, he will be tempted to sell the better players so the clubs' books look good. Don't forget - unlike other clubs, NUFC DON'T own the land on which the ground is built.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The thing is we just don't know what floats Ashley's boat. All we know is that he wants to run Newcastle as a business but for all that, Carroll might just be his favourite player and he might fancy having England's centre forward playing for his club. He might decide to toss a coin in the morning to decide whether to keep or sell. Who knows. I am just starting to get worried that this team that everyone has become so fond of is going to be broken up in the Summer. It is good that there is interest in Carroll, Enrique and Tiote plus if he continues in his current form possibly Colo because it obviously means we have some very good players and they are wanted by good clubs. Then of course if Ben Arfa proves to be the player we think he is, we will probably be worrying about losing him next January. If we keep the players, we could be at the start of something exciting but as ever is Ashley happy for us just to survive or does he want to improve year on year. = lots of England shirt sales? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The thing is we just don't know what floats Ashley's boat. All we know is that he wants to run Newcastle as a business but for all that, Carroll might just be his favourite player and he might fancy having England's centre forward playing for his club. He might decide to toss a coin in the morning to decide whether to keep or sell. Who knows. I am just starting to get worried that this team that everyone has become so fond of is going to be broken up in the Summer. It is good that there is interest in Carroll, Enrique and Tiote plus if he continues in his current form possibly Colo because it obviously means we have some very good players and they are wanted by good clubs. Then of course if Ben Arfa proves to be the player we think he is, we will probably be worrying about losing him next January. If we keep the players, we could be at the start of something exciting but as ever is Ashley happy for us just to survive or does he want to improve year on year. Yeh, been thinking myself, we now have a very good core of players. A couple of good additions in the summer and we really could move on up. As you say, none of us know what's in Ashley's mind and what his real motive is at this time. He could do something really good for the club, after all. Personally, I'm a bit concerned by the all the talk from Pardew about the persuading he's had to do to get Ashley to hang onto our top players. But maybe he's just been educating him, and if Pardew really is his man then maybe he'll listen to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Spurs are getting more desperate by the hour. Big bids being made and rejected for about 4 or 5 strikers in the hope just one of them signs. No rhyme or reason to who or what type of player they're after they just want a good striker and have left it til 30th Jan to show their hand. Hope they end up with no fucker and Defoe falls down the stairs and snaps his little legs. Shove Dawson up front like they used to do with Docherty. wonder why they've not been back for those south americans they were supposed to be signing on the last deadline day? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The thing is we just don't know what floats Ashley's boat. All we know is that he wants to run Newcastle as a business but for all that, Carroll might just be his favourite player and he might fancy having England's centre forward playing for his club. He might decide to toss a coin in the morning to decide whether to keep or sell. Who knows. I am just starting to get worried that this team that everyone has become so fond of is going to be broken up in the Summer. It is good that there is interest in Carroll, Enrique and Tiote plus if he continues in his current form possibly Colo because it obviously means we have some very good players and they are wanted by good clubs. Then of course if Ben Arfa proves to be the player we think he is, we will probably be worrying about losing him next January. If we keep the players, we could be at the start of something exciting but as ever is Ashley happy for us just to survive or does he want to improve year on year. Always has and always will be my worry with Ashley. We all know his stated goal on how he wants to run the club ie developing young players and being financially sustainable. But it's ambiguous. Do we develop players to sell and help him recoup the money he has lost? Or do we develop to keep, and therefore save paying big fees as well as developing the team and club. Let's hope it's the latter, but I fear the former. It's not ridiculous to suggest Andy Carroll will lead the line for England for the next decade. Bear in mind there is a lack of quality forwards in England and proven Premier League strikers aren't cheap. Look how much Villa paid for Darren Bent. 23M is not an unfair offer but I'd be gutted if we sell because it shows how the club is being run and will be run. I also doubt the top players want to come to Newcastle in its current state. So we'll be back scouring the market for a young forward who will grow with us. And it goes round in circles. West Ham's youth policy failed when they sold them all for profit. Arsenal develop them for keeps and it works. There is a chance Carroll is a one season wonder and we will regret turning the deal down. But I'm willing to take that chance. I think he'll only get better and if he keeps it up, we may have Man City or Chelsea knocking on the door with silly money further down the line. He's signed a long contract and seems happy, if we cash in to bloody Spurs it's a sign of Ashley's intentions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If we keep the players, we could be at the start of something exciting but as ever is Ashley happy for us just to survive or does he want to improve year on year. what was it someone said, the difference between 17th & 7th is about 7 million quid? i'd hope ashley is approaching it this way, i.e. if he sells Carroll he has to spend some of the xx million on replacements for the squad and then he gambles that we end up further down the league and possibly even relegated thus negating the sale in the first place smart move is to operate the way he has been recently, picking up players like HBA, Ireland etc. and hoping we can get the best out of them...build a nice team with spirit, albeit one with a limited pool of resources that's the smart move for me, but as stated who knows what ashley will do if 40m cold hard cash is waved under his nose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 oh and selling Carroll in this window would crush the spirit in the squad imo, absolutely crush it...anything might happen for the rest of the season if Carroll goes now - he MUST know that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 f*** of Liverpool yee cænts ? As of yesterday afternoon there was no contact between Newcastle and Liverpool regarding Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Is it basically just down to if we sell him now or in the summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Fuck of Liverpool yee cænts Mirror being lazy (I hope). Is it basically just down to if we sell him now or in the summer? At this point in time, I'd just be happy for him to return from his injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Is it basically just down to if we sell him now or in the summer? Not really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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