Mick Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Over how long a period of time? If we're going to spend it then it will be in the Summer, I don't think we'll spend anywhere near £35 million either which is why I said earlier that this transfer would be pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Be funny if it fell through now Be great if he walked into Anfield to talk numbers, they're just about to sign papers and say to him "Ok Andy, anything else before we sign you up?" and he simply says "Aye, ride is, ride is!" gets up and walks out. Would never happen but it would be funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Blame? Ashley received a ridiculous offer, too good to turn down. Even if Carroll wanted to stay and refuse the chance to triple his wages, he'd still have been put under pressure to go. I wish Carroll all the best, but there's no way he's going to live up to that price tag. He's good, but he's not that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Be funny if it fell through now Post, thread, facebook status deletion all owa the shop. DELETE THE INTERNET, DAVE, QUICK! DELETE IT!!!! Dave better get the the Admin & Mod team ready to go on a moments notice if this deal goes Pete Tong now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Be funny if it fell through now "Hi Mike, Derek, Alan. About that transfer request...." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Ryan Donaldson As if anyone in there right mind wouldnt of done the same?!! Ha. Carroll leaving his legacy. Somebody terminate that little s***'s contract so he can end up at Blyth Spartans. Can't believe these young players, just don't seem to show any loyalty. If I was on just £20,000 a week I can't see why I would need/want any more and leave the team I have supported for years to get it. Aye, the honourable attitude that we believe in and once actually prevailed. And then you get an agent............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If Torres failed his medical or whatever do you think this would still happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TrueToon Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Is everyone forgetting how well we have done without him,We'll be fine,Whats all this Championship talk? We have proved we aren't a one man team.Give it a rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If Torres failed his medical or whatever do you think this would still happen? they don't have the money for suarez, adam and carroll, do they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 That bit from Donaldson is sickening. Do people from my generation not dream of the toon anymore? I did (do) - nobody else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Over 100 pages since I last checked this thread Gutted he's going mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andrew Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 tried to avoid this thread until morning, but ah fuck it. Very dissapointed, I thought he'd stay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Anyone who thinks Carroll forced a move here is a fucking idiot of the highest order, especially given the track record of the complete and utter wanks who own and run our club. I'm not going to even pretend to know the exact details but I seriously doubt Carroll was or is so desperate to leave a club where he's guaranteed to start every game if fit, where he is absolutely worshipped by the fans and where he is actually doing very well at, earning himself a deserved England cap. I think what has happened is that the money offered is simply too much to turn down and it is when you look at it. £35m + for a 22 year-old striker with only half a season or so experience in the top-flight and with limited areas to his game is fucking monumental and on a par with the fee Man Utd received for Ronaldo. Crazy crazy money which no club could afford to turn down. Speaking of which, in the past few years the following clubs have lost their Andy Carroll: Everton (Rooney), Man Utd (Ronaldo), Spurs (Berbatov), mackems (Bent), Liverpool (Torress) and so on and so on. Money talks regardless of player and club. I expect Man Utd to lose Rooney in the next year or so and Arsenal Fabregas, huge important players at huge club who will go where the money takes them. Figo left Barca for Real, Zidane left Juventus for Real. Ronaldo left barca for Inter. My point? Not many stars stay at their clubs for very long even if those clubs are huge clubs or even if those players are local players. That is why we must cherish our legends like Shearer, players who followed the dream and not the money. We'll never see the like again here at this club or in the modern game. Remember that. Back to Carroll... I'm not his biggest fan but losing him means an awful lot more than losing any old player. He is a Geordie, he could have been our main man for a decade, he's an academy product. Selling him is our way of conceding to money, the player and indeed other clubs. We are now a selling club, a club of limited ambition who cannot even hang onto its local players, its better players. Looking at it like that you have to wonder just what is the point of football at the moment? For me I'm struggling to find a point of it other than I was born a Geordie and therefore must support NUFC. For what though? To have good men removed from my club for no point whatsoever, KK and Hughton, Sir Bobby before that, for key players to be sold or forego any kind of loyalty, for fans simply to allow themselves to be walked over by chairmen, owners, players. To pay huge sums each year to follow a set of people who couldn't give a shit one way or another. Fuck that. My interest in NUFC these days is merely a passing following and that's again, down to being a Geordie and therefore I must. Football itself has transcended what it used to be all about to now being all about money. Money, money, money. From the owners to the managers to the players and even the fans these days. Long gone is the loyalty, passion and feeling that like a magnet drew the likes of Shearer and Sir Bobby and KK into the game, their clubs and their role in it as heroes, legends. As for Mike Ashley and co... who can blame Carroll or anyone for that matter wanting to leave somewhere where these clowns run amok. Carroll is joining a huge successful club who enters every competition aiming to win it, who only cares about silverware. At Newcastle its all about politics, failure, broken dreams, dodgy deals and fuck ups. Who seriously wants to be at a club who gets rid of one of its better managers in recent years for a worse one for no apparent reason other, or a club who treats its legends like shit, i.e. the whole Shearer fiasco after relegation or before that Sir Bobby's sacking. Carroll will go onto better things at Liverpool and that's sad for me to have to write or say. Thank you Mike Ashley (and money in the game which Ashley is a manifestation of), not for relegation, the sale of Carroll the KK stuff or sacking Hughton but for forcing me to give up the one thing I've never lacked - my faith in my club and the game. Today it no longer exists. Fuck the lot of it, it literally isn't worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 We only need 10 points, we will be fine once BARFA comes back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Be funny if it fell through now Post, thread, facebook status deletion all owa the shop. DELETE THE INTERNET, DAVE, QUICK! DELETE IT!!!! Dave better get the the Admin & Mod team ready to go on a moments notice if this deal goes Pete Tong now. Bet its action stations at Workstation Dave right now. He'll have his three phones set up, to ring in the M-Team at a moments notice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 f***ing hell man mick - how long before you spot the trend. I doubt he'll spend anything like what we've just brought in and I'll moan like some are tonight, if we don't. I'll not do it tonight because I hope that we wait and not just jump for anybody just because we now have some cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 EDIT: Not aimed at you Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 That bit from Donaldson is sickening. Do people from my generation not dream of the toon anymore? I did (do) - nobody else. Just remembered he's from Newcastle aswell. Words fail me after today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elbee909 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 "He's going to a football club that has to win trophies, is expected to win trophies," Shearer said. Funny how that says so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I fucking love this twitch interview. Orgasmic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 "He's going to a football club that has to win trophies, is expected to win trophies," Shearer said. Funny how that says so much. Urgh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I wonder how many points we would have needed for Ashley to think twice about flogging Carroll, he obviously thinks we're home and dry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Anyone who thinks Carroll forced a move here is a fucking idiot of the highest order, especially given the track record of the complete and utter wanks who own and run our club. I'm not going to even pretend to know the exact details but I seriously doubt Carroll was or is so desperate to leave a club where he's guaranteed to start every game if fit, where he is absolutely worshipped by the fans and where he is actually doing very well at, earning himself a deserved England cap. I think what has happened is that the money offered is simply too much to turn down and it is when you look at it. £35m + for a 22 year-old striker with only half a season or so experience in the top-flight and with limited areas to his game is fucking monumental and on a par with the fee Man Utd received for Ronaldo. Crazy crazy money which no club could afford to turn down. Speaking of which, in the past few years the following clubs have lost their Andy Carroll: Everton (Rooney), Man Utd (Ronaldo), Spurs (Berbatov), mackems (Bent), Liverpool (Torress) and so on and so on. Money talks regardless of player and club. I expect Man Utd to lose Rooney in the next year or so and Arsenal Fabregas, huge important players at huge club who will go where the money takes them. Figo left Barca for Real, Zidane left Juventus for Real. Ronaldo left barca for Inter. My point? Not many stars stay at their clubs for very long even if those clubs are huge clubs or even if those players are local players. That is why we must cherish our legends like Shearer, players who followed the dream and not the money. We'll never see the like again here at this club or in the modern game. Remember that. Back to Carroll... I'm not his biggest fan but losing him means an awful lot more than losing any old player. He is a Geordie, he could have been our main man for a decade, he's an academy product. Selling him is our way of conceding to money, the player and indeed other clubs. We are now a selling club, a club of limited ambition who cannot even hang onto its local players, its better players. Looking at it like that you have to wonder just what is the point of football at the moment? For me I'm struggling to find a point of it other than I was born a Geordie and therefore must support NUFC. For what though? To have good men removed from my club for no point whatsoever, KK and Hughton, Sir Bobby before that, for key players to be sold or forego any kind of loyalty, for fans simply to allow themselves to be walked over by chairmen, owners, players. To pay huge sums each year to follow a set of people who couldn't give a shit one way or another. Fuck that. My interest in NUFC these days is merely a passing following and that's again, down to being a Geordie and therefore I must. Football itself has transcended what it used to be all about to now being all about money. Money, money, money. From the owners to the managers to the players and even the fans these days. Long gone is the loyalty, passion and feeling that like a magnet drew the likes of Shearer and Sir Bobby and KK into the game, their clubs and their role in it as heroes, legends. As for Mike Ashley and co... who can blame Carroll or anyone for that matter wanting to leave somewhere where these clowns run amok. Carroll is joining a huge successful club who enters every competition aiming to win it, who only cares about silverware. At Newcastle its all about politics, failure, broken dreams, dodgy deals and fuck ups. Who seriously wants to be at a club who gets rid of one of its better managers in recent years for a worse one for no apparent reason other, or a club who treats its legends like shit, i.e. the whole Shearer fiasco after relegation or before that Sir Bobby's sacking. Carroll will go onto better things at Liverpool and that's sad for me to have to write or say. Thank you Mike Ashley (and money in the game which Ashley is a manifestation of), not for relegation, the sale of Carroll the KK stuff or sacking Hughton but for forcing me to give up the one thing I've never lacked - my faith in my club and the game. Today it no longer exists. Fuck the lot of it, it literally isn't worth it. This is about the 3rd or 4th time you've posted something with similar sentiments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 if we hadn't been relegated would Carroll ever have got in our first team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 "He's going to a football club that has to win trophies, is expected to win trophies," Shearer said. Funny how that says so much. Any need for that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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