WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Macdonald's on the legends saying its a cracking bit of business, we've taken Liverpool to the cleaners and its all about money. People queuing up to argue with him. Having gone through both sides of the story and Pardew's interview, I'm now most definitely swaying to believe it was ultimately down to Carroll's greed. However we've got £35m and he's getting his 80-90k p/w. Both parties are relatively satisfied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 In all of this guys, don't forget (I almost had) that our info was that Pardew was given the very specific responsibility of reducing the wage bill as a condition of his employment, as MA feels that a lower cost base will now make the club easier to sell. Fingers crossed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 He had a f***ing helicopter waiting outside. Shameful. If he had drove AC there some scouser would of nicked the wheels off the car. Scousers wold nick the wheels off a jumbo jet if it flew low enough man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenum Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 For those who say Carroll was forced out, can anybody tell me how we've never forced Ameobi out even though we've accepted decent bids for him from at least two clubs in the past? I'm pretty sure it was because Shola really REALLY does want to stay here so there's no chance of shifting him while he's got a contract. Yeah, I remeber the massive grin on the hat-wearing Shola when he signed his new contract. At the time it felt like he was so happy/lucky just to get a renewal. and sticking to the thread topic I think AC is a greedy cunt asking for a revamped contract. £30k a week (!) obviously not ok for the 21 yr old fecker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Could his decision be also based on wanting to get away from his various off pitch problems as well as money related? Either way he's a turncoat and we move on without him. We have 4 months of the season left, and if we get the 3-4 wins we need I think we all might be a bit more calmer about it. Lets face it he is good, but not world class. He could be a one season wonder, who knows? Nobody can predict he's going to be a world (girl) beater, and Liverpool have taken the massive gamble on that front, not us. Chin up everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 He had a fucking helicopter waiting outside. Shameful. Thats his Helicopter thats how he gets up here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Him being forced out doesn't quite add up to me. On the other hand, I think Pardew's story is absolute bullshit as well. As I said before, everyone comes out looking like an asshole. In summary, MA ---> Go fuck yourself DL ---> Go fuck yourself AP ---> Go fuck yourself AC ---> Geordie hero, go fuck yourself Duffel Bag full of cash ----> best of luck to you up front Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 So Carroll's story's bullshit and Pardew's story's bullshit? How's that work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 So Carroll's story's bullshit and Pardew's story's bullshit? How's that work? Nothing happened at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Could his decision be also based on wanting to get away from his various off pitch problems as well as money related? Either way he's a turncoat and we move on without him. We have 4 months of the season left, and if we get the 3-4 wins we need I think we all might be a bit more calmer about it. Lets face it he is good, but not world class. He could be a one season wonder, who knows? Nobody can predict he's going to be a world (girl) beater, and Liverpool have taken the massive gamble on that front, not us. Chin up everyone. if anything the off field stuff and that the club stood by him in such circumstances (especially the saylor one) when the club would have been quite within his rights to say ok feck off you tramp and get a hair cut and shave (ok perhaps not exactly what would have been said) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 It's very simple how it works. both are likely equally full of truths and mistruths. Watch a presidential debate. It's a matter of being selective with the data. I don't think anybody's intentions were constructively interfering with what is best for the club. I think Carroll was not unhappy to leave when he found out how much Liverpool was offering. He could have been pressured to leave. But forced out? I don't think so. I think the club was ecstatic to get that much for him, even though they didn't have a Plan B. The world is rarely black and white, even in the club's case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 me mam reckons he was pushed 100% Keys and Gray were right. Women know fuck all about football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Even if Carroll was completely desperate to leave, I find it hilarious that folk are prepared to absolve Ashley of any blame whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Even if Carroll was completely desperate to leave, I find it hilarious that folk are prepared to absolve Ashley of any blame whatsoever. They're all cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Even if Carroll was completely desperate to leave, I find it hilarious that folk are prepared to absolve Ashley of any blame whatsoever. Can't remember reading many of those posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Even if Carroll was completely desperate to leave, I find it hilarious that folk are prepared to absolve Ashley of any blame whatsoever. I don't get what more could be done though? Carroll, presumably, wanted us to match Liverpool's wages. Damn right we refused and ended up getting a colossal fee in compensation for a pretty massive loss. The fact we rejected previous bids showed to me that no one at the club wanted him to go. The Ashley cartoon that people have constructed would have accepted the first bid of £23m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Carroll doesn't exactly look thrilled to be at Lpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Even if Carroll was completely desperate to leave, I find it hilarious that folk are prepared to absolve Ashley of any blame whatsoever. Well said, man. How many times are we going to be fooled by reassurances? When it comes to this, a few normally very intelligent poster suddenly experience a vacation of cognitive functions. It just shows how stupid wishful thinking can be. Hence a bunch of assholes making Rhonda Byrne a very rich Australian tart for her dogshit Secret. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSundlofer Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Changed my mind a hundred times about this. = We shouldn't have sold a key player on deadline-day without replacing him. And if Carroll really wanted to stay and play his football here, he should have rejected the offer from Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Even if Carroll was completely desperate to leave, I find it hilarious that folk are prepared to absolve Ashley of any blame whatsoever. I don't get what more could be done though? Carroll, presumably, wanted us to match Liverpool's wages. Damn right we refused and ended up getting a colossal fee in compensation for a pretty massive loss. The fact we rejected previous bids showed to me that no one at the club wanted him to go. The Ashley cartoon that people have constructed would have accepted the first bid of £23m. Reject the bid and refuse to let him go?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Even if Carroll was completely desperate to leave, I find it hilarious that folk are prepared to absolve Ashley of any blame whatsoever. They're all cunts. even more well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Even if Carroll was completely desperate to leave, I find it hilarious that folk are prepared to absolve Ashley of any blame whatsoever. Well said, man. How many times are we going to be fooled by reassurances? When it comes to this, a few normally very intelligent poster suddenly experience a vacation of cognitive functions. It just shows how stupid wishful thinking can be. Hence a bunch of assholes making Rhonda Byrne a very rich Australian tart for her dogshit Secret. Who is absolving him of all blame like? Obviously he wasn't devastated to get £35m for Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Even if Carroll was completely desperate to leave, I find it hilarious that folk are prepared to absolve Ashley of any blame whatsoever. I don't get what more could be done though? Carroll Tell him to fuck off and wait till the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Even if Carroll was completely desperate to leave, I find it hilarious that folk are prepared to absolve Ashley of any blame whatsoever. They're all cunts. even more well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Carroll doesn't exactly look thrilled to be at Lpool. They're just photographs but there's a point to what you're saying. I'm sure, in an ideal world for him, Carroll would still be at Newcastle with the £90k a week contract (or whatever) he's currently sat on at Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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