BottledDog Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 "How did you feel when you first heard of Liverpool's interest? I was a bit surprised and didn't really know what was going on at the time. When I knew it was real and that there was a chance for me to come here I knew it was a great opportunity and I had to take it" = TRANSFER REQUEST IMHO What the f*** should he say? "How did you feel when you first heard of Liverpool's interest? "I didn't give a toss, I'm Newcastle through and through. Now take me back home please." Of course. That wouldn't really work out in the real world tho.. His actual answer is a pretty standard answer, who i wouldn't lay too much thought in to. Also the reporter is very clearly trying to drag answers like that out of him - almost putting words in Carroll's mouth. Balls. He could have said something along the lines of, "I was surprised when the bid was accepted, but now I'm here I'm delighted obviously". But because it was his decision in the end, that would be lying now, wouldn't it. Fact is he is saying fair enough things, unless of course you still think like yourself that he had no choice in his departure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Somone on twitter (LOL!) reckons Carroll trained at the Sunderland Academy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 My issue isn't with Carroll's comments on Liverpool's website. Of course he's going to say that. What's wrong is that he's contradicted himself by coming out in the Chronicle yesterday and saying completely the opposite. You can't appease all sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 It's been a good week for Liverpool, because they've traded in a striker who didn't want to play and who wasn't making any effort, and got two decent strikers in his place. They're far better off, for an outlay of about £7 million. Whether in any other set of circumstances, AC is worth £35 million is very doubtful. Basically, we've been able to take advantage of Abramovich's last throw of the financial dice before the fair play rules kick in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Stolen from someone else: FSG: How much do you want for Carroll, lads? Ashley: £35m, lol jo... FSG: Done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 For me, it's going to hurt much more when Jose Enrique leaves, because I've grown far more attached to him than I ever did with Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 For me, it's going to hurt much more when Jose Enrique leaves, because I've grown far more attached to him than I ever did with Carroll. Good job he's not leaving then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 For me, it's going to hurt much more when Jose Enrique leaves, because I've grown far more attached to him than I ever did with Carroll. Well, that and James Perch at LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 My issue isn't with Carroll's comments on Liverpool's website. Of course he's going to say that. What's wrong is that he's contradicted himself by coming out in the Chronicle yesterday and saying completely the opposite. You can't appease all sides. As I've said yesterday Carroll had tried to use the fans as a pawn in all of this, and that is absolutely disgusting in all of this from the hatred from the fans towards Ashley. I would rather he just admitted he tried to extract more money from the club from the situation, but he won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 If Andy Carroll wasn't pushed out, why did Newcastle fly him to Liverpool. http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/premiership/if-andy-carroll-wasnrsquot-pushed-out-why-did-newcastle-fly-him-to-liverpool-15070876.html Chopper is faster than driving Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 For me, it's going to hurt much more when Jose Enrique leaves, because I've grown far more attached to him than I ever did with Carroll. I agree. Ill miss Colo, Enrique, Barton, Tiote and Barfa more than Carrol. Although, after 3 seasons of current form, that would have changed. Or Not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 My issue isn't with Carroll's comments on Liverpool's website. Of course he's going to say that. What's wrong is that he's contradicted himself by coming out in the Chronicle yesterday and saying completely the opposite. You can't appease all sides. As I've said yesterday Carroll had tried to use the fans as a pawn in all of this, and that is absolutely disgusting in all of this from the hatred from the fans towards Ashley. I would rather he just admitted he tried to extract more money from the club from the situation, but he won't. Exactly. Has done far more harm than good in this instance for a club that he 'loves'/loved. All he's done is to stoke the embers of tension already existing between Ashley and the fans. I'm no Ashley apologist, but this endless debate is doing nothing disrupt the situation further. He genuinely excited me as a player - the first man to do so since Shearer. Somehow you had the feeling that if he was playing there was always a possibility that we could score. He's gone now though. Let's move on. He's not the first player to excite fans and he won't be the last. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 For me, it's going to hurt much more when Jose Enrique leaves, because I've grown far more attached to him than I ever did with Carroll. Good job he's not leaving then! I did say 'when' for a reason. Would be very surprised if he didn't leave in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 My issue isn't with Carroll's comments on Liverpool's website. Of course he's going to say that. What's wrong is that he's contradicted himself by coming out in the Chronicle yesterday and saying completely the opposite. You can't appease all sides. As I've said yesterday Carroll had tried to use the fans as a pawn in all of this, and that is absolutely disgusting in all of this from the hatred from the fans towards Ashley. I would rather he just admitted he tried to extract more money from the club from the situation, but he won't. Exactly. Has done far more harm than good in this instance for a club that he 'loves'/loved. All he's done is to stoke the embers of tension already existing between Ashley and the fans. I'm no Ashley apologist, but this endless debate is doing nothing disrupt the situation further. He genuinely excited me as a player - the first man to do so since Shearer. Somehow you had the feeling that if he was playing there was always a possibility that we could score. He's gone now though. Let's move on. He's not the first player to excite fans and he won't be the last. No player will ever be bigger than this club, no matter how good they are. As soon as players think like that they can fuck off imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3385830/Derek-Llambias-Newcastle-did-not-want-to-sell-Andy-Carroll.html NEWCASTLE chief Derek Llambias last night insisted: We did not force Andy Carroll out of the Toon. Llambias was upset and dismayed at Carroll's claims the Geordie club just wanted to cash in and pocket a £35million profit on the local hero. Managing director Llambias said: "We didn't push Andy Carroll out, far from it - he asked to go. "The fact is Mike Ashley didn't want to sell him, it's not like he needs the money is it? And remember we turned down bids of £30m and then £35m from Liverpool. "That's serious money for a 22-year-old with only six months' experience in the Premier League. But finally Mike's point of view was the player's put in a transfer request, so what can we do? "Andy was already earning top money at the club after signing a new deal recently. "But he said he'd been offered £80,000-a-week from Liverpool and asked what we would pay to make him stay. We told him the club just couldn't afford to give him a deal like that, nothing close. "And when we said 'No' - well, that's when he put in his transfer request." Toon manager Alan Pardew said: "If he had really wanted to stay, he could have. "We certainly didn't twist his arm to put in the transfer request or get on the helicopter. "He had a five-year contract, a contract we said we would renew in the summer, but he wanted to renew it straight away." Llambias added: "Yes, he went in our helicopter. But the sooner the deal was done the sooner we could make our own moves in the transfer market. It was already very late. "We will spend in the summer. Every penny of the £35m will stay in the club." Someone explain the difference to me please. Particularly when related to the last line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3385830/Derek-Llambias-Newcastle-did-not-want-to-sell-Andy-Carroll.html NEWCASTLE chief Derek Llambias last night insisted: We did not force Andy Carroll out of the Toon. Llambias was upset and dismayed at Carroll's claims the Geordie club just wanted to cash in and pocket a £35million profit on the local hero. Managing director Llambias said: "We didn't push Andy Carroll out, far from it - he asked to go. "The fact is Mike Ashley didn't want to sell him, it's not like he needs the money is it? And remember we turned down bids of £30m and then £35m from Liverpool. "That's serious money for a 22-year-old with only six months' experience in the Premier League. But finally Mike's point of view was the player's put in a transfer request, so what can we do? "Andy was already earning top money at the club after signing a new deal recently. "But he said he'd been offered £80,000-a-week from Liverpool and asked what we would pay to make him stay. We told him the club just couldn't afford to give him a deal like that, nothing close. "And when we said 'No' - well, that's when he put in his transfer request." Toon manager Alan Pardew said: "If he had really wanted to stay, he could have. "We certainly didn't twist his arm to put in the transfer request or get on the helicopter. "He had a five-year contract, a contract we said we would renew in the summer, but he wanted to renew it straight away." Llambias added: "Yes, he went in our helicopter. But the sooner the deal was done the sooner we could make our own moves in the transfer market. It was already very late. "We will spend in the summer. Every penny of the £35m will stay in the club." Someone explain the difference to me please. Particularly when related to the last line. What is it you find confusing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 If we don't need £30m, why can't we afford anything close to £80k/week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 If we don't need £30m, why can't we afford anything close to £80k/week? its called a wage structure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 If we don't need £30m, why can't we afford anything close to £80k/week? Agree with your point but I reckon Llambias probably meant it would go against the wage structure rather than us not being able to afford it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 If we don't need £30m, why can't we afford anything close to £80k/week? Firstly we will have a budget for this season, putting Carroll on 80k would disrupt that. Also the club rightly wants to bring every players wage to a respectable level, Carroll for 80k a week simply isn't worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Oh, and why does Llambias directly relate the transfer fee to Ashley's personal wealth? Bit strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Thanks for the explanations everyone. Still think a compromise could have been reached if they were arsed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 If we don't need £30m, why can't we afford anything close to £80k/week? Firstly we will have a budget for this season, putting Carroll on 80k would disrupt that. Also the club rightly wants to bring every players wage to a respectable level, Carroll for 80k a week simply isn't worth it. Thanks for the explanations everyone. Still think a compromise could have been reached if they were arsed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Oh, and why does Llambias directly relate the transfer fee to Ashley's personal wealth? Bit strange. That big sums of money don't overwhelm someone like loadsamoney Ashley when it comes to someone trying to pry a player off us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Thanks for the explanations everyone. Still think a compromise could have been reached if they were arsed. That is true, both sides have acted stupidly in all of this regarding comm's and their actions. Still think Carroll is mostly to blame though over the whole new contract saga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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