Mick Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 That's like saying Paul Kitson was Cole's replacement. He was until we signed Ferdinand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 How's he doing on the bench so far then? Still conscious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Not watching this game so I don't know how it's going, but that Liverpool line-up looks pretty good to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 That's like saying Paul Kitson was Cole's replacement. He was until we signed Ferdinand. And we'll see what comes of the Carroll sale this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 And we'll see what comes of the Carroll sale this summer. And that will have absolutely no positive effect on our play between January and May, another season written off, just like when we sold Cole. I'll put money on it that we don't do as well out of the Carroll sale as we did from the Cole sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Sincerely Andy, I hope it all goes wrong for you. Not cruel enough to wish injury on you, but I really hope you're a failure there (even though its unlikely). Bad luck Andy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Shattered femur please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 And we'll see what comes of the Carroll sale this summer. And that will have absolutely no positive effect on our play between January and May, another season written off, just like when we sold Cole. I'll put money on it that we don't do as well out of the Carroll sale as we did from the Cole sale. We've done just as well this season without Carroll than with, and he'd have only made his comeback (maybe) yesterday anyway. We'll see in our last 9 results what selling him has done but when his replacement has 6 in 10 this season it's not too bad (yet). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 We've done just as well this season without Carroll than with, and he'd have only made his comeback (maybe) yesterday anyway. We'll see in our last 9 results what selling him has done but when his replacement has 6 in 10 this season it's not too bad (yet). The players were demoralised after the sale so we've already suffered because of his loss and we have players questioning where the club is heading and whether we have any ambition. If we'd been able to bring him on yesterday instead of Shola we would have 3 points more than we have now because we had enough balls into the box for him to have made a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 We've done just as well this season without Carroll than with, and he'd have only made his comeback (maybe) yesterday anyway. We'll see in our last 9 results what selling him has done but when his replacement has 6 in 10 this season it's not too bad (yet). The players were demoralised after the sale so we've already suffered because of his loss and we have players questioning where the club is heading and whether we have any ambition. If we'd been able to bring him on yesterday instead of Shola we would have 3 points more than we have now because we had enough balls into the box for him to have made a difference. Pretty presumptive given he played against Blackpool, Stoke, Fulham & Wigan and didn't have an impact on the result. (Wigan ironically where Ameobi turned the game off the bench) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 We've done just as well this season without Carroll than with, and he'd have only made his comeback (maybe) yesterday anyway. We'll see in our last 9 results what selling him has done but when his replacement has 6 in 10 this season it's not too bad (yet). The players were demoralised after the sale so we've already suffered because of his loss and we have players questioning where the club is heading and whether we have any ambition. If we'd been able to bring him on yesterday instead of Shola we would have 3 points more than we have now because we had enough balls into the box for him to have made a difference. I think that's a very important point that the folks saying he wouldn't have played anyway keep overlooking. We'll never know what impact it has actually had on results but I can't see how anyone could claim it was anything but negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Alternatively it's given Leon Best and one or two others a massive lift as it's made their roles more important to the side now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Especially negative now that two key players have withdrawn from contract discussions over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 We've done just as well this season without Carroll than with, and he'd have only made his comeback (maybe) yesterday anyway. We'll see in our last 9 results what selling him has done but when his replacement has 6 in 10 this season it's not too bad (yet). The players were demoralised after the sale so we've already suffered because of his loss and we have players questioning where the club is heading and whether we have any ambition. If we'd been able to bring him on yesterday instead of Shola we would have 3 points more than we have now because we had enough balls into the box for him to have made a difference. I think that's a very important point that the folks saying he wouldn't have played anyway keep overlooking. We'll never know what impact it has actually had on results but I can't see how anyone could claim it was anything but negative. It's debatable. We haven't lost any games due to lack of effort. If anything's demoralized the players it's the sudden propensity for everyone to keel over and crock themselves at every opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 ...and there being nobody else to play. Good job we've got a load of money though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Especially negative now that two key players have withdrawn from contract discussions over it. Still have Tiote though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Especially negative now that two key players have withdrawn from contract discussions over it. Have they? Can't remember Barton and Enrique citing Carroll as reason for it like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Especially negative now that two key players have withdrawn from contract discussions over it. Still have Tiote though. That's ok then, as long as he can play centre forward, left back, right midfield and his own position at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Especially negative now that two key players have withdrawn from contract discussions over it. Have they? Can't remember Barton and Enrique citing Carroll as reason for it like. Widely reported that they've pulled out because of the club's lack of ambition. Both have publicly stated in interviews that they're not happy about it. Contrary to popular belief, just because something isn't running across the Sky Sports News ticker doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 If our best player signing a long-term contract like that isn't enough for Barton & Enrique then it's obvious they've got their minds set elsewhere no matter what. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Especially negative now that two key players have withdrawn from contract discussions over it. Have they? Can't remember Barton and Enrique citing Carroll as reason for it like. Widely reported that they've pulled out because of the club's lack of ambition. Both have publicly stated in interviews that they're not happy about it. Contrary to popular belief, just because something isn't running across the Sky Sports News ticker doesn't mean it hasn't happened. And contrary to popular belief, just because something is a negative story on the club doesn't mean it's true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 If our best player signing a long-term contract like that isn't enough for Barton & Enrique then it's obvious they've got their minds set elsewhere no matter what. They probably haven't forgotten http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/9076100.stm and aren't as gullible as folk on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 If our best player signing a long-term contract like that isn't enough for Barton & Enrique then it's obvious they've got their minds set elsewhere no matter what. He already had a long-term contract man, and he might yet go in the summer anyway. They saw our best striker sold for big money to a supposed rival and nothing to replace him. Simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Especially negative now that two key players have withdrawn from contract discussions over it. Have they? Can't remember Barton and Enrique citing Carroll as reason for it like. Widely reported that they've pulled out because of the club's lack of ambition. Both have publicly stated in interviews that they're not happy about it. Contrary to popular belief, just because something isn't running across the Sky Sports News ticker doesn't mean it hasn't happened. And contrary to popular belief, just because something is a negative story on the club doesn't mean it's true. Why do you think they both pulled out then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 So what if they do leave, Bartons on 80k a week we have Ben Arfa who can come in and play there. Enrique, yes it would be a blow, but he can be replaced. There are plenty of solid but not spectacular LB's that would come here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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