February 4th - New Open NUSC Meeting - Download link (most of it) in OP

[Liam Liam Liam O]

"That money goes into Ashley's pocket" on about season tickets..  Jesus wept they've got a qualified accountant there, has he not seen the accounts or what?.. 

 

He's put over £100m in, chances are he won't be getting any return out for fucking years.

 

All reducing the revenue streams will do is reduce the funds available for players & reduce chances of him finding a buyer.

 

They really are a bunch of deluded, self-important thick fuckers.

 

Aye and you're the fucking clever one sat picking faults on a website.  Genuine fans of the club bothering their arse to try and have a constructive and meaningful debate about the current situation, and this is the level of your craic.  Turn up to the next one and enlighen people.  I'm sure you're a right clever bastard.

 

The first two lines of my post are the important ones & they are also the two you've not commented on.  NUSC at present is an Ashley pressure group.

 

We'll see what comes out of tonights meeting in terms of what they want to do going forward.  If they come up with something constructive then fair enough, but the signs haven't been good so far have they?

[Liam Liam Liam O]

"That money goes into Ashley's pocket" on about season tickets..  Jesus wept they've got a qualified accountant there, has he not seen the accounts or what?.. 

 

He's put over £100m in, chances are he won't be getting any return out for fucking years.

 

All reducing the revenue streams will do is reduce the funds available for players & reduce chances of him finding a buyer.

 

They really are a bunch of deluded, self-important thick fuckers.

 

No he's tagged the 100m on the sale price hence no buyers. Pipe down a bit.

 

As opposed to writing it off?

 

 

[Parky]

"That money goes into Ashley's pocket" on about season tickets..  Jesus wept they've got a qualified accountant there, has he not seen the accounts or what?.. 

 

He's put over £100m in, chances are he won't be getting any return out for fucking years.

 

All reducing the revenue streams will do is reduce the funds available for players & reduce chances of him finding a buyer.

 

They really are a bunch of deluded, self-important thick fuckers.

 

Aye and you're the fucking clever one sat picking faults on a website.  Genuine fans of the club bothering their arse to try and have a constructive and meaningful debate about the current situation, and this is the level of your craic.  Turn up to the next one and enlighen people.  I'm sure you're a right clever bastard.

 

The first two lines of my post are the important ones & they are also the two you've not commented on.  NUSC at present is an Ashley pressure group.

 

We'll see what comes out of tonights meeting in terms of what they want to do going forward.  If they come up with something constructive then fair enough, but the signs haven't been good so far have they?

 

Cause this is a really easy situation isn't it?

[David Icke - Son of God]

There is more intelligence, passion and will being put out over that stream than there is by many on this fucking forum. I'm enjoying the discussions me and grateful fans are doing something about the state of the club, if only at this stage talking and having their say. Good on them and good luck to them. These are proper fans who care deeply about the club, unlike some of the twats on here.

 

Hear, hear.

 

It's very easy for people to sit on here and scoff at their suggestions but the fact that people are unwilling to go to the Irish Centre and bring these apparently salient points up shows them up as feckless keyboard warriors. There have been a few idiots on tonight but for the most part the people there have been well spoken and knowledgable. Certainly much more knowledgable than people on here.

[Guest VegasToon]

I wish they would stop talking about Keegan.

[Guest Gemmill]

"That money goes into Ashley's pocket" on about season tickets..  Jesus wept they've got a qualified accountant there, has he not seen the accounts or what?.. 

 

He's put over £100m in, chances are he won't be getting any return out for fucking years.

 

All reducing the revenue streams will do is reduce the funds available for players & reduce chances of him finding a buyer.

 

They really are a bunch of deluded, self-important thick fuckers.

 

Aye and you're the fucking clever one sat picking faults on a website.  Genuine fans of the club bothering their arse to try and have a constructive and meaningful debate about the current situation, and this is the level of your craic.  Turn up to the next one and enlighen people.  I'm sure you're a right clever bastard.

 

The first two lines of my post are the important ones & they are also the two you've not commented on.  NUSC at present is an Ashley pressure group.

 

We'll see what comes out of tonights meeting in terms of what they want to do going forward.  If they come up with something constructive then fair enough, but the signs haven't been good so far have they?

 

Do you understand the concept of joining up and having your say?  Or going to the meeting as a non-member and having your say?  Making sure that the alternative view is heard?  As long as all you lot that say "Ooooo well they don't represent my views" continue to NOT JOIN, then they'll never represent your views.  It's not fucking rocket science.

 

"If they come up with something constructive".  While you sit and do what?  Scoff at everything, call them all thick fuckers, and presumably you're sat with all the answers in your head?

 

By the way, Mike Ashley's current running of NUFC is the biggest single concern for me as a fan of the club at this minute.  And he's making a fucking awful job of it imo.  So I can kind of understand why Mike Ashley is the big issue on the agenda for a NUFC Supporter's Club.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

  NUSC at present is an Ashley pressure group.

 

Is it fuck, its a set of fans fucking pig sick of cunts mismanaging this club and Ashley just so happens to be the number one mush in that respect at this moment in time. Of course they don't like him and want him out, I do and thousands of others do too, in fact I imagine a number of players would wish he fucked off as well.

[Syrette]

Ashley is destroying Newcastle apparently. The city that is.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

"That money goes into Ashley's pocket" on about season tickets..  Jesus wept they've got a qualified accountant there, has he not seen the accounts or what?.. 

 

He's put over £100m in, chances are he won't be getting any return out for fucking years.

 

All reducing the revenue streams will do is reduce the funds available for players & reduce chances of him finding a buyer.

 

They really are a bunch of deluded, self-important thick fuckers.

 

Aye and you're the fucking clever one sat picking faults on a website.  Genuine fans of the club bothering their arse to try and have a constructive and meaningful debate about the current situation, and this is the level of your craic.  Turn up to the next one and enlighen people.  I'm sure you're a right clever bastard.

 

The first two lines of my post are the important ones & they are also the two you've not commented on.  NUSC at present is an Ashley pressure group.

 

We'll see what comes out of tonights meeting in terms of what they want to do going forward.  If they come up with something constructive then fair enough, but the signs haven't been good so far have they?

 

Cause this is a really easy situation isn't it?

 

Eh?

 

No one is saying it's easy.

[David Icke - Son of God]

"That money goes into Ashley's pocket" on about season tickets..  Jesus wept they've got a qualified accountant there, has he not seen the accounts or what?.. 

 

He's put over £100m in, chances are he won't be getting any return out for fucking years.

 

All reducing the revenue streams will do is reduce the funds available for players & reduce chances of him finding a buyer.

 

They really are a bunch of deluded, self-important thick fuckers.

 

Aye and you're the fucking clever one sat picking faults on a website.  Genuine fans of the club bothering their arse to try and have a constructive and meaningful debate about the current situation, and this is the level of your craic.  Turn up to the next one and enlighen people.  I'm sure you're a right clever bastard.

 

The first two lines of my post are the important ones & they are also the two you've not commented on.  NUSC at present is an Ashley pressure group.

 

We'll see what comes out of tonights meeting in terms of what they want to do going forward.  If they come up with something constructive then fair enough, but the signs haven't been good so far have they?

 

It comes across as an Ashley pressure group because he's the biggest problem at the club.

[Guest neesy111]

On the VAT issue if you paid all the three seasons upfront then there is no return as the club would have paid the taxman at 17.5%

 

not sure if your starting to pay for them now in instalments though

[Liam Liam Liam O]

  NUSC at present is an Ashley pressure group.

 

Is it fuck, its a set of fans fucking pig sick of cunts mismanaging this club and Ashley just so happens to be the number one mush in that respect at this moment in time. Of course they don't like him and want him out, I do and thousands of others do too, in fact I imagine a number of players would wish he fucked off as well.

 

So it is then.

[Parky]

"That money goes into Ashley's pocket" on about season tickets..  Jesus wept they've got a qualified accountant there, has he not seen the accounts or what?.. 

 

He's put over £100m in, chances are he won't be getting any return out for fucking years.

 

All reducing the revenue streams will do is reduce the funds available for players & reduce chances of him finding a buyer.

 

They really are a bunch of deluded, self-important thick fuckers.

 

Aye and you're the fucking clever one sat picking faults on a website.  Genuine fans of the club bothering their arse to try and have a constructive and meaningful debate about the current situation, and this is the level of your craic.  Turn up to the next one and enlighen people.  I'm sure you're a right clever bastard.

 

The first two lines of my post are the important ones & they are also the two you've not commented on.  NUSC at present is an Ashley pressure group.

 

We'll see what comes out of tonights meeting in terms of what they want to do going forward.  If they come up with something constructive then fair enough, but the signs haven't been good so far have they?

 

Do you understand the concept of joining up and having your say?  Or going to the meeting as a non-member and having your say?  Making sure that the alternative view is heard?  As long as all you lot that say "Ooooo well they don't represent my views" continue to NOT JOIN, then they'll never represent your views.  It's not fucking rocket science.

 

"If they come up with something constructive".  While you sit and do what?  Scoff at everything, call them all thick fuckers, and presumably you're sat with all the answers in your head?

 

By the way, Mike Ashley's current running of NUFC is the biggest single concern for me as a fan of the club at this minute.  And he's making a fucking awful job of it imo.  So I can kind of understand why Mike Ashley is the big issue on the agenda for a NUFC Supporter's Club.

 

Yup.

[Guest Gemmill]

Ashley is destroying Newcastle apparently. The city that is.

 

Your craic is scintillating.

[Guest neesy111]

  NUSC at present is an Ashley pressure group.

 

Is it fuck, its a set of fans fucking pig sick of cunts mismanaging this club and Ashley just so happens to be the number one mush in that respect at this moment in time. Of course they don't like him and want him out, I do and thousands of others do too, in fact I imagine a number of players would wish he fucked off as well.

 

i bet that, if it had been another manager at the club then this group would never had been started

[toonpete1892]

When is the anti-ashley part of the discussion ending because as far as I'm aware, NUSC stands for Newcastle United SUPPORTERS club?

 

How about discussion a way of bringing the fans together? I've witnessed fights and heated arguements between fellow supporters on my last 4 games and thats not what the club is about. A positive team performance and positive support are the two ingredients that are going to see us survive this season.

 

 

[Kimbo]

Ashley is destroying Newcastle apparently. The city that is.

 

Years and years of mismanagement is destroying Newcastle, the fact the club is bleeding money hasn't even been mentioned(i don't think). It's disgusting that the club haven't replied to them though, i can't wait for the Llambias interview.

[Syrette]

Ashley is destroying Newcastle apparently. The city that is.

 

Your craic is scintillating.

 

What craic? I'm just quoting what the guy said for fuck's sake. In a way I get what he means even if it was a bit melodramatic.

[Guest mackas86]

is there a link to this times article that everyone is going on about, wouldn't mind reading it

[Syrette]

Have put this in here because he is talking about the NUSC.

 

http://timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/2009/02/the-biggest-dan.html

 

February 03, 2009

The biggest danger facing Newcastle is apathy

 

 

 

George Caulkin

 

This has been a bleak season for Newcastle United and it could still become bleaker, yet amid the turmoil and the departures, the controversy, the numbing performances, the concern, the mess and the self-inflicted mishaps, hope is shimmering. It is a delicate, fragile sort of hope, encircled by thorns, but it is there, nonetheless. It requires assiduous nurturing.

 

It will come as little surprise that events on the pitch, which have been largely miserable, have not prompted this spark of optimism. It will come as absolutely no surprise that nothing which has taken place in the manager’s office or the boardroom, where mixed messages continue to thrive, has contributed to it. As usual, it has emanated from the stands.     

 

The media perpetuate two myths about Newcastle supporters; that they are impatient and that they are perennially militant. Both are wrong. Quite how fans who have had no domestic trophy to cheer since 1955 and none at all since 1969 can be accused of impatience has never been clear – decent football and a committed team are hardly outrageous demands - and the militancy thing is simply nonsense.

 

During the less inspiring moments of Freddy Shepherd’s tenure as chairman – and there were plenty to choose from – episodes of outright dissent were rare. Perhaps that was because there were other divisive figures to rival directors, whether unpopular managers (appointed by Shepherd) or fractious players (bought by him), but mainly because of loyalty. Loyalty almost to a fault.

 

People may have a mental image of teenage Geordies bouncing outside St James’ Park in front of the television cameras waving their shoes in the air, but that is not representative. The protests which accompanied the 2-1 home defeat to Hull City in September, shortly after the exit of Kevin Keegan and which precipitated Mike Ashley’s decision to sell the club were vibrant and raw, but also untypical.

 

But Ashley, of course, is staying (at least until a buyer emerges) and things have not got any better on Tyneside. A relegation battle is being fought by a small squad and the transfer window saw two senior players leave including, in Shay Given, a world-class goalkeeper with a passion for the club, but a loathing for all the chaos. Only three signings arrived; Newcastle, shamefully, made an £8m profit on their dealings.

 

Derek Llambias, the perma-smirking managing director, from whom nothing has been heard, will finally break his silence late this week, answering questions, sent in by readers, to two local newspapers, but a far more significant exchange of views will take place elsewhere. On Wednesday at 7pm, in the Tyneside Irish Centre, Newcastle’s soul will be wrestled over.

 

The Newcastle United Supporters Club (NUSC), an independent body designed to represent fans and challenge the club (and in spite of quotes attributed elsewhere, it is the only organisation of its type), was established in the aftermath of Keegan’s departure. Still in its infancy, it needs legitimacy, backing and members. It has spokesmen and issues press releases, but it is not staffed by people who crave attention for the sake of it.

 

Influential fanzines and websites like The Mag, nufc.com and true faith have offered guidance, financial and philosophical, to the NUSC, but none have a wish to set or control the agenda. What it will ultimately be and could become is still up for debate; yes, there should be principled and serious opposition to Ashley, but what are the wider issues? Where would it go post Ashley?

 

The biggest danger facing Newcastle at present is not relegation. It is not their billionaire owner. It is not Dennis Wise. And it is not anger, impatience or militancy. It is apathy. For home matches, attendances have often been 5,000 below capacity and after years of heartache and underachievement, there is widespread muttering about season tickets not being renewed, of hope finally being extinguished.

 

But it is there. If supporters have less power than they used to, they still have some and those who step out into the freezing weather and head for the Irish Centre will be reclaiming their club. Membership of the NUSC is not required. As they put it themselves, they wish to “establish some common ground. Bring with you your thoughts, your anger, your hope, your ideas, your wants, your needs.”

 

The NUSC has already promoted a boycott of official club merchandise and has written to Ashley to request a meeting, anywhere in the country, on his terms, simply to discern his plans for Newcastle. As they anticipated, their letter was ignored. But the greater the numbers, the louder the voices, the more difficult it will be for ears to be blocked. There is hope for Newcastle; it just needs seeking out.

 

 

 

[Rich]

Fair point on the wider view, something I wanted NUFC to do themselves when we had the dialogue with Chris Mort. You cannot base things on a few blokes off websites or off 250 fans who mainly want Mike Ashley out, you need to get the season ticket holders involved and see what the majority view is. Something has to be done to inspire everyone to get involved and have their view on things.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

There is more intelligence, passion and will being put out over that stream than there is by many on this f***ing forum. I'm enjoying the discussions me and grateful fans are doing something about the state of the club, if only at this stage talking and having their say. Good on them and good luck to them. These are proper fans who care deeply about the club, unlike some of the twats on here.

 

Hear, hear.

 

It's very easy for people to sit on here and scoff at their suggestions but the fact that people are unwilling to go to the Irish Centre and bring these apparently salient points up shows them up as feckless keyboard warriors. There have been a few idiots on tonight but for the most part the people there have been well spoken and knowledgable. Certainly much more knowledgable than people on here.

 

I think its great, whoever had this idea and put it all together wants a pat on the back. Fills me with hope. Here we all are on the web, on a Newcastle forum as Newcastle fans listening to Newcastle fans at a bar in the Toon discussing the future of the club, united to try and do something positive. Top stuff and listening makes me wish I was there to have my own say and I imagine others listening will wish they were there too and hopefully this stream will get some of these listeners along next time. I know I'll be there.

[colinmk]

This guy is exactly right, and that should be the first united aim of the group imo, to establish contact with the club. Until that happens then what can happen?

[David Icke - Son of God]

  NUSC at present is an Ashley pressure group.

 

Is it fuck, its a set of fans fucking pig sick of cunts mismanaging this club and Ashley just so happens to be the number one mush in that respect at this moment in time. Of course they don't like him and want him out, I do and thousands of others do too, in fact I imagine a number of players would wish he fucked off as well.

 

i bet that, if it had been another manager treated like keegan then this group would never had been started

 

Moot point. Apart from a few idiots this is no longer about Keegan but it's about one man, his negligence and the way he's fucking this club up.

[Teasy]

I've got a lot of respect for people who have turned up to the meeting.  However I agree it seems to be all about what can be done to remove Ashley, what can be done to hurt Ashley.  As for knowledgeable, not one of them seems to realise that the ones robbing this club blind are the likes of Smith, Viduka ect rather then Ashley.  Weather that's because none of them realise or none of them want to say something that defends Ashley I don't know.

 

Of course that doesn't mean I've got a problem with the meeting or anything there.