Incognito Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I thought while Ameobi was shite,he was still better than Lovenkrands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 The photo of the Nolan tackle is shocking. How the kid's leg isn't broken is beyond me. Am I right in thinking it seems out of character for Nolan? Don't seem to remember him getting sent off for anything that bad when he was at Bolton. I also hope that Duff and Ameobi are dropped for next week. The former - I called it before the game in saying that he hasn't got the ability to put two good performances together. £70K a week? It's a joke. As for Ameobi - was as pitiful a peformance I've seen since Rob McDonald. I've tried to stick up for him in the past, but the fact that he's been given a new deal speaks volumes. Apparently he missed some training this week. Begs the question if it's true, why was he risked ahead of Martins or Viduka? Woeful tatics from Hughton and Calderwood. Everton were there to be beaten today - had we been brave enough to have a go. It's a missed opportunity and we could now be looking until the back end of April to see our next home point. Anyone feeling confident with the Mancs, Arsenal and Chelsea being the next 3 visitors? Season can't end quick enough for me now. Yes, for the Arsenal match. Theyve been an absolute joke this season and theyre there for the taking....especially at SJP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Have not seen full match yet, but a really shocking tackle from Nolan - deserves to be suspended for 6 matches, never mind 3... Completely indefensible, went in deliberately from the side with both feet, almost jumping on the player's leg. This is probably the reason Nolan was available - he has a tendency to lose it in tackles, and Bolton knew all about that... In the circumstances, a draw is a creditable result because every point is vital, but Nolan's recklessness will cost the club because his physical presence is useful in midfield - IF it is kept under control... Not surprised at the high ratings given to Enrique - he's a good player, now starting to prove it more regularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Have not seen full match yet, but a really shocking tackle from Nolan - deserves to be suspended for 6 matches, never mind 3... Completely indefensible, went in deliberately from the side with both feet, almost jumping on the player's leg. This is probably the reason Nolan was available - he has a tendency to lose it in tackles, and Bolton knew all about that... In the circumstances, a draw is a creditable result because every point is vital, but Nolan's recklessness will cost the club because his physical presence is useful in midfield - IF it is kept under control... Not surprised at the high ratings given to Enrique - he's a good player, now starting to prove it more regularly. I really don't think it was deliberate. It was what, his second career sending off? Doesn't sound ilke someone who regularly loses it. I think it's one of those horrible events where chance and poor luck creates a horrible looking tackle. I feel terrible for the Everton guy, and it was a definite red card. Yeah, he probably deserves a 3-game suspension because you can't let tackles like that slide. But it wasn't deliberate or malicious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest battyleespeed Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I wonder if he has fully understood the implications of that one rash tackle. There isn't anyone to replace him while he's gonna sit out the next 3-4 matches and not only that the other half-decent CM Butt is going to look real bad with a make-shift replacement like Geremi. At least there was a little hope of having some control in midfield with Nolan and Butt breaking up the play and holding the formation together. The likes of Geremi and Smith are going to ruin any composure the team had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 classic tackle for how to break a leg. f***ing stupid player. i imagine when we play barton and nolan together for sure we wont finish the games with 11 man. Because Nolan has been making tackles like this his whole career.... I admit it was f***ing stupid but lets not go OTT and make him out to be Lee Cattermole. he is not like that c*** Cattermole but we all know that he is the type of player that is capable of doing something like this.Like we all know Barton is capable of doing something like this. For example the chances of Nolan or Barton making that kind of tackles is much higher then players like Fabregas or Carick for example Yeah, Barton or Nolan have a higher chance of making a bad tackle than Fabregas or Carrick because they tackle more. Stunning revelation that. No. Barton and Nolan are the type of players which you will not be surprised if you see them make that kind of tackle. Fabregas and Carick have alot more mind in their games then Nolan and Barton. We all saw that today. what shite is this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Probably a contender for worst premier league game of the season. Harper- 5- Rotten distribution R Taylor-6 Started well and faded a tad Bassong-7- Did well Colo- 6- Generally okay S Taylor- 7- Did well out of position Butt- 5- Usual dross Nolan- 2- Imbecile, deserves a hefty fine Duff- 5- Average Lovenkrands- 4- Offered absolutely nowt Shola- 5- How many more chances will he get? Jonas- 5- Final ball remains predictably cack. Martins- 4- Not fit, waste of time. Smith- 4- Not involved Hughton-3 - Grow a set MOTM- Joleon Lescott who mopped up everything. And your favourite left-back? Was our best player out there by far in my mind. Got some well deserved applause and encouragement from the fans as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Martins - 4, waste of time? What the fuck was he supposed to do when up top on his own having only clearances to run for? No one would be able to do much up front in the situation we were in yesterday. He still managed to put Jonas in on goal as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Probably a contender for worst premier league game of the season. Harper- 5- Rotten distribution R Taylor-6 Started well and faded a tad Bassong-7- Did well Colo- 6- Generally okay S Taylor- 7- Did well out of position Butt- 5- Usual dross Nolan- 2- Imbecile, deserves a hefty fine Duff- 5- Average Lovenkrands- 4- Offered absolutely nowt Shola- 5- How many more chances will he get? Jonas- 5- Final ball remains predictably cack. Martins- 4- Not fit, waste of time. Smith- 4- Not involved Hughton-3 - Grow a set MOTM- Joleon Lescott who mopped up everything. Harper 5? With all due respect, f*** off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Looks like he also has the two Taylor's round the wrong way. And no Enrique... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 i thought a draw was acceptable result against a side at 6. Didnt see the performance though. AM assuming it was ineffective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GMRK Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1396/eeverton11ub4.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Looks like he also has the two Taylor's round the wrong way. And no Enrique... For large portions of the match, particularly the first half, the neutral observer might have thought that Saylor was indeed playing in midfield with Raylor behind him. And while it might not be G. Neville-Beckham in it's skill and creativity, it has the potential to be a complimentary and solid partnership. And with the Enrique-Guitierrez partnership on the left, it offers considerable protection against teams that use wingers... However, it also lacks flair and especially potency. Good for away games perhaps, but without creativity in the middle or on the flanks we aren't going to score a whole lot. Especially if the fucking donkey ever plays again. After 30-odd pages, Slugsy summed it up pretty much perfectly for mine: Pluses for me were Bassong, S Taylor, Enrique. First time I have seen R Taylor and to be honest I thought he was average though playing in a way which seemed to be dictated ie staying inside and allowing S Taylor to drive forward, so will reserve judgement. Duff was rank and Ameobi, well I'm just sick and tired of seeing him, he is awful, down right awful. Jonas was also dissapointing for once and while Butt tried his heart out, he is clearly over the hill. Finally, Nolan, what an idiot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I thought Jonas had his worst game for us yesterday, didn't get one cross right all afternoon, floated past the players with relative ease but the final product was'nt there! Ameobi was poor aswell, didn't battle for anything and was no threat whatsoever. Lovenkrands wasn't much better TBF. Defence looked ok but we had a few scrappy balls that weren't cleared quick enough. Butt played better yesterday and Nolan was working hard and keeping us ticking in midfield until his brain imploded! We deffo need both duff and jonas on if we are sticking with butt and nolan in centre midfield just to get us some flair and pace into the game. MARTINS & VIDUKA, PLEASE COME BACK AND PLAY, EVEN IF YOU ARE 30% FIT YOU WILL BE BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Harper - 5 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Shit match, is this what we have ti look forward to next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I do think that Harper's performance yesterday deserves some criticism. He made a terrific reaction save early on and a late save, but other than that had very little to do. Everton had few really good opportunities. And his distribution was awful. So dreadful it stood out. There was a stretch there where he repeatedly booted the ball out of play and Everton throw ins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I do think that Harper's performance yesterday deserves some criticism. He made a terrific reaction save early on and a late save, but other than that had very little to do. Everton had few really good opportunities. And his distribution was awful. So dreadful it stood out. There was a stretch there where he repeatedly booted the ball out of play and Everton throw ins. I never bought this nonsense about us having the best pair of keepers in the Premier League. We had a great keeper in Given and an able deputy in Harper. I dont think he's any great shakes. He should have done better at WBA for at least one of the goals and yesterday his distribution was shoddy and was simply inviting pressure on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 From the daily mail: NEWCASTLE (4-4-2): Harper 7; S Taylor 7, Coloccini 6, Bassong 7, Enrique 7; R Taylor 7, Nolan 6, Butt 6, Duff 5 (Gutierrez 45min, 6); Ameobi 5 (Martins 59, 5), Lovenkrands 5 (Smith 77). Sent off: Nolan. EVERTON (4-4-2): Howard 6; Jagielka 7, Yobo 7, Lescott 7, Baines 7; Neville 7, Arteta 6 (Castillo 7 7), Rodwell 8, Gosling 7 (Saha 74, 7); Anichebe 6 (Fellaini 45, 6), Jo 5. Must say i agree very much with this... Nolan was playing ok till he got the red card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Jo can take solace that he wasn't quite as dreadful yesterday as he was when he came up here with City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I can see where people are coming from with Harpers ratings. As good as his shotstopping/collecting crosses was, his distribution was fucking woeful. We're playing with one up top, and he's punting it straight down the middle for Lescott to head away. Also WTF happened with a free kick he took in the second half, which went straight out for a throw in? Arguably had he used his left foot it wouldn't have happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Arteta out for season with ruptured knee ligament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest md49vd Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 hey lads, wasnt the most spectacular match in the end despite my 'could be contender for games of the season' quote. I think overall i am happy we got a point, we don't have a great record away to Newcastle, we had cahill missing and many more, and then to lose Arteta after 3 mins and Anichebe before half time were killer blows as well. I think we created 1 or 2 chances we could have scored but overall there was no real quality in the team. The only good news is we have West Brom next so hopefully we can take 3 points and still push on to top 6 and europe without arteta and yakubu long term absentees now. As for the FA Cup, well it might be a bit premature to say this but i cannot see us beating Arsenal, Chelsea or Man Utd without Arteta so i think our hopes have significantly faltered. Anyways, nice to see Nolan apologised and good luck for the rest of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Arteta is out for the rest of the season apparently. Edit: Sorry just noticed Blue Star's post above! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dover Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 What everyone seems to be forgetting is the woeful team selection. Before the kick off you could see that Martins, Jonas, and Viduka were the 3 subs going to be used, obviously due to Nolans stupidity Viduka was traded for smith as he has a higher work rate, but less quality. Why wasnt any of the three in the starting 11? The team sent out yesterday was woeful, someone needs to tell hughton that the bench is for the squad players, nurse one or two inuries through fair enough, but deciding to use all 3 as subs before kick off was fucking ridiculous. We offered no attacking threat to Everton, Moyes must have laughing his bollocks off. If arteta had stayed on we would have been dead and buried. For me: harper 6 (Please learn to kick a ball) Enrique 7 (most improved player) Bassong 8 (our best player) Collo 7 (cant decide if hes poor positionally or its enrique`s fault) Taylor 7 (great going forward, poor defender) Duff 4 (had his 1 good game in 20 last week, see you next season damien) Butt 6 (for effort only, legs have gone) Nolan 5 (Jurys out, still done nothing to suggest his anything but squad material, cost us 2 points) R Taylor 6 (Set piece delivery worth his name on the team sheet, rest of play poor) Shola 1 (For his one pass of the game, absolute dross, managed to make duff decent) Lovenkrands 5 (Fitness levels not there yet, busy first 30 then faded) If we dont bring in a tactically aware manager soon were going to be in the mire, we cant afford to drop points, Everton were there for the taking. They didnt bring their top 6 team, they brough their squad team, if cahill, arterta, felliani et al were all fit we`d have been destroyed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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