TaylorJ_01 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 And having a former defender as reserve manager is just utterly turgid. Not just that, but he's Scottish too. He'll have as much of a philosophy about football as I have about spiders. Needs a big clearout before we completely waste the little talent we have available in the lower ranks. Why are you always putting down Scots?! Plenty of defenders have positive playing styles as managers too, what's that all about? I know, that part was sort of tongue in cheek (any reasonable Scottish coaches will flee to England, for good reason). I'm just worried at the quality of youngster we are producing and how we seem to be letting a lot of them stagnate. Really worrying. His speciality is always going to be on the defensive side and would need to be backed up by a solid attacking coach (which me may or may not have). So you're just ignoring mine and OCK's posts that contradict everything you've said? The reserves seem to be doing pretty awfully this year. I'll trust your better judgement but if you're playing 'good football' you generally don't lose all the time. Would you say the players being taken for the first team has had a lot to do with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Tooj and OCk are right the reserves do play good football, possibly too much football at times as they are encouraged to play and don't resort to hoofing it upfield but can then give it away in dangerous positions. Unfortunately they haven't had good results but you certainly get entertaining games. Biggest problem though is they have been decimated with injuries especially at the back. Numerous times this season i have watched them and they have had to play the likes of Newton at centre half due to no one else being available due to injuries, loans or people in first team squad. The likes of Satka look really promising but his age group should really be U18's this season not the U21 and a few years at that age can be massive difference physically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 And having a former defender as reserve manager is just utterly turgid. Not just that, but he's Scottish too. He'll have as much of a philosophy about football as I have about spiders. Needs a big clearout before we completely waste the little talent we have available in the lower ranks. Why are you always putting down Scots?! Plenty of defenders have positive playing styles as managers too, what's that all about? I know, that part was sort of tongue in cheek (any reasonable Scottish coaches will flee to England, for good reason). I'm just worried at the quality of youngster we are producing and how we seem to be letting a lot of them stagnate. Really worrying. His speciality is always going to be on the defensive side and would need to be backed up by a solid attacking coach (which me may or may not have). So you're just ignoring mine and OCK's posts that contradict everything you've said? The reserves seem to be doing pretty awfully this year. I'll trust your better judgement but if you're playing 'good football' you generally don't lose all the time. Would you say the players being taken for the first team has had a lot to do with it? It's all manner of things. You really can't judge the "reserves" solely on results, because the team make-up and opposition varies so much. I've only seen a couple of your kids' games this season, but you had many different players involved. When we played Man U U-21s they had Fletcher playing FFS. We tend to have players playing in an age group above their own - so for example, the U-21s have a few U-19s involved, and the U-21s themselves tend to be out on loan. The team can be hit-or-miss, so what I look for is a consistent philosophy. We've been pretty good at that, but I haven't seen enough of your guys to comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Dummett must have really improved during that stint at St. Mirren, he was nowhere near the first-team pool prior to that really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Player gets better playing in a different division for experience shocker. Wish we'd do the same for others Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 He was, but then got injured. I think the St. Mirran loan was to help him regain fitness and match sharpness (as well as test out that knee). Scored for them in his last game before coming back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Anyone know how tall he is, btw? Wiki says 5ft 10, but he looked taller than that to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Newcastle United's young pros ordered to shape up or ship out Journal Live-6 minutes ago NEWCASTLE United have begun a major strengthening operation of their under-performing development squad – as Alan Pardew lays bare his frustration with ... http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2013/01/11/newcastle-united-s-young-pros-ordered-to-shape-up-or-ship-out-61634-32585591/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 How can we really be unhappy with these players when they come into the first team when they have been given 0 opportunities to develop on loan? It's so rare that a young player can step into a premiership team and handle it without having loan experience first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 How can we really be unhappy with these players when they come into the first team when they have been given 0 opportunities to develop on loan? It's so rare that a young player can step into a premiership team and handle it without having loan experience first. To be fair I think the club has been trying to loan several of them but other clubs have deemed them not good enough. Mate who supports Charlton said they looked at Abeid at the start of season but didn't rate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 A bit of "we need players" in there to I think.. just Pards wanting a stronger squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Anyone know whether Gascoigne's nephew is still at the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 How can we really be unhappy with these players when they come into the first team when they have been given 0 opportunities to develop on loan? It's so rare that a young player can step into a premiership team and handle it without having loan experience first. To be fair I think the club has been trying to loan several of them but other clubs have deemed them not good enough. Mate who supports Charlton said they looked at Abeid at the start of season but didn't rate him. I have mentioned this a few times, people bang on about loans all the time forgetting that there needs to be a club at the other end that actually wants the player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 http://www.nufc.com/ Youngsters win but Remie knacked again Result (11am KO): Newcastle U18s 3 Manchester City U18s 2 Newcastle's U18s beat Manchester City's youngsters at Little Benton thanks to goals from Greg Olley, Adam Campbell and Jonathyn Quinn but the bad news is that central defender, Remie Streete went off injured - nobody was near him when he broke down. Substitute Quinn scored in the 89th minute after Olley had scored in the seventh minute and Campbell had got our second after 23 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Sounds worrying for Streete, that. PS: another centre back unavailable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Another NUFC youngster injury prone, what the fuck are we doing there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Why the hell is Campbell not with the first team today?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Why the hell is Campbell not with the first team today?! Good point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Why the hell is Campbell not with the first team today?! Did you not hear we've signed Dion Dublin for cover, I'm guessing he's not ready for the first team yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Because we got Danger Ranger! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Sounds worrying for Streete, that. PS: another centre back unavailable. Just a hamstring tweak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Craig-NUFC Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Sounds like we're going to miss out on being a Category One Academy again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 We'll just buy players from France. Who needs an academy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I like that. France is our Academy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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