ElDiablo Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 The only team Owen would fit into nowadays is a team that keeps it on the floor and likes to pass and move, we're not, therefore he's ineffective. Simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer9 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I can see why Shearer took a chance on him tonight, he probably thought that he needed someone to take chances that would be laid on for him, but that never actually happened. Against much better organized Fulham and Villa defenses though, we're going to have to have a lot more pace, skill, and heading ability, none of which Owen really has. It's just a shame that our other 3 strikers can only do one of the above things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I can see why Shearer took a chance on him tonight, he probably thought that he needed someone to take chances that would be laid on for him, but that never actually happened. Against much better organized Fulham and Villa defenses though, we're going to have to have a lot more pace, skill, and heading ability, none of which Owen really has. It's just a shame that our other 3 strikers can only do one of the above things. Viduka has skill and heading ability Martins has pace and heading ability Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Owen can't head? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I can't see him scoring against Fulham but Oba is more effective coming off the bench while he's not fully fit. A Carroll/Viduka partnership might be the way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I can't see him scoring against Fulham but Oba is more effective coming off the bench while he's not fully fit. A Carroll/Viduka partnership might be the way to go. how's that, as a joke? or a way to get relegated? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 No longer our top scorer in the league as of tonight, that would the striker who has played less and isn't 'half the finisher' mate wake up, since Owen scored his last goal, both Carroll and Love have netted 3. It's embarrassing Both Owen and Martins have scored the same amount of league goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I think either McLoven or Owen should start next to Viduka, and Martins to be used as an impact sub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 No longer our top scorer in the league as of tonight, that would the striker who has played less and isn't 'half the finisher' mate wake up, since Owen scored his last goal, both Carroll and Love have netted 3. It's embarrassing What's more embarrassing is since Owen last scored Steven Taylor has scored 3 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I can see why Shearer took a chance on him tonight, he probably thought that he needed someone to take chances that would be laid on for him, but that never actually happened. Against much better organized Fulham and Villa defenses though, we're going to have to have a lot more pace, skill, and heading ability, none of which Owen really has. It's just a shame that our other 3 strikers can only do one of the above things. Viduka has skill and heading ability Martins has pace and heading ability Martins is obviously carrying an injury and can't possibly start. Owen and Viduka are still our best options to start tomorrow imo, with the pace and running of Martins and Lovenkrands a threat from off the bench. And I think Owen will score tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 No longer our top scorer in the league as of tonight, that would the striker who has played less and isn't 'half the finisher' mate wake up, since Owen scored his last goal, both Carroll and Love have netted 3. It's embarrassing What's more embarrassing is since Owen last scored Steven Taylor has scored 3 goals. probably had more chances and looked like scoring, good finish v hull as well i've said this, steven taylor does look our best threat when he get's forward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 i still think owen's a bit over his fighting weight, which might be slowing him down a bit. if him and nolan both lost about a stone and a half each, we'd see 2 different players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 i still think owen's a bit over his fighting weight, which might be slowing him down a bit. if him and nolan both lost about a stone and a half each, we'd see 2 different players I remember him saying he had to bulk up after the knee injury to compensate for losses in other areas of his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sheds Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 This thread title should be "Should Owen be included in the team? (or the squad for that matter) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Main story on Skysports today is that hes NOT quitting football lol Hadnt heard any claims he was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sheds Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Main story on Skysports today is that hes NOT quitting football lol Hadnt heard any claims he was Judging from his last few appearances for us I thought he'd already quit football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest twickmag Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Gabby Logan article in Times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/article6289040.ece Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest battyleespeed Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 i still think owen's a bit over his fighting weight, which might be slowing him down a bit. if him and nolan both lost about a stone and a half each, we'd see 2 different players Agree with that. He has bulked up a lot in last several years, but it's obviously down to his weight training regime rather than for lack of training. He spent the entire time of his knee injury working on his upper body muscles and might have continued that training regime ever since. I think he is trying to compensate for loss of pace but it can actually backfire a lot as putting on muscle could slow him down even more and reduce his stamina and flexibility levels. I noticed this kind of side-effects after gaining a stone through weight training and even Beckham was blaming the extra weight training he had done for his lacklustre performance in WC 06. I suspect if he'd stop most of the extra weight training and lose weight he'd be sharper in game situations and could still be relatively fast. I wonder if he is doing the bulking up to "protect" himself as I can't see him to switch to a physical centre-forward game a la Viduka/Shearer no matter how much muscle he'd be able to put on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Gabby Logan article in Times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/article6289040.ece What a complete load of shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Gabby Logan article in Times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/article6289040.ece What a complete load of s****. How exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SB Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 "Any suggestion or unfounded speculation that Michael Owen has any intention of quitting football is totally untrue and wrong,'' read a statement from Wasserman Media Group. "Michael remains as committed to his football career as he ever has been and is deeply and professionally offended that anyone should suggest otherwise.'' It continued: "Michael Owen has instructed lawyers this evening and will take action against any publication which he feels inaccurately or unfairly suggested he is quitting football and is damaging to his professional reputation.'' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Good to see Shearer speak out in Owen's defence too. If he scores the goal that keeps us up people will be raving about him (See Viduka, M). He's going through a poor patch. No shit. We've got to keep the faith in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Steven Taylor was on SSN this morning and I agreed with him when he said Owen needs the service, and that he is valuable because he rarely loses the ball. Basically meant blame the team around him, not Owen. All players go through bad patches, I would personally stick with Owen and Viduka up front, and if the game goes the same kind of way for Owen, then bring on Martins as an impact sub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Steven Taylor was on SSN this morning and I agreed with him when he said Owen needs the service, and that he is valuable because he rarely loses the ball. Basically meant blame the team around him, not Owen. All players go through bad patches, I would personally stick with Owen and Viduka up front, and if the game goes the same kind of way for Owen, then bring on Martins as an impact sub. This, Owen coming on would have the same impact as hitting someone, with one of those squeaky plastic hammers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I like the idea of starting Owen and Viduka with Oba as the impact sub. Makes sense, when you think about it. We'll basically be playing for 60 minutes with ten men, then when we throw Oba the opposition won't know what hit them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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