Rich Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I'm on my phone on the way home at the moment hence the bitty replies, but did I just see you question people's logic about what could have happened because it's wishful thinking and in the same post say on another day Martins would have scored? I smell contradiction again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 You continue to ignore the fact we lost the game and didn't actually score a goal. How much worse could it have been if Lovenkrands had started? That's my point, which you've ignored about two or three times now. Just because Martins had 2 good chances, the selection was right?? I can't agree with that in a game we were at home for and maybe needed to have won. The fact that we lost & missed chances doesnt justify the idea that that wasnt our best starting line up though. Maybe sometimes that is just us at our best & if we dont get the luck it isnt good enough. This season it clearly isnt. Theres no reason to believe us losing means its likely that we would have done better with a different player. 9/10 we wouldnt at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I'm on my phone on the way home at the moment hence the bitty replies, but did I just see you question people's logic about what could have happened because it's wishful thinking and in the same post say on another day Martins would have scored? I smell contradiction again. But there is reason to believe that martins would have scored on another day, given that he came inches away from scoring. As i said, there isnt much reason to believe that playing lovenkrands would have turned us into world beaters & given them more chances which he or others would have taken - compared to what we got playing Martins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 soccernet.com has us winning with both Hull and Sunderland losing... if only. If that happens I will finally believe in God... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Anyone else think that we will go down with no goals in a shocking display? I have a feeling this sunday will be entirely uneventful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Anyone else think that we will go down with no goals in a shocking display? I have a feeling this sunday will be entirely uneventful. Its impossible that it'll be uneventful Shirley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I'd honestly bring Oba on at half-time. Our most important player by a mile but really shouldn't be playing with that injury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Micktoon Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Anyone else think that we will go down with no goals in a shocking display? I have a feeling this sunday will be entirely uneventful. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I just dont like the fact that we probably will face Carew (maybe Heskey? or is he injured?) without Bassong and Beye. Coloccini and Taylor against Carew is just, sad. If they play smart and concentrate on wining the second ball instead of the first they should be ok. If they go shoulder to shoulder to Carew they'll both get anihilated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Anyone else think that we will go down with no goals in a shocking display? I have a feeling this sunday will be entirely uneventful. It wouldn't amaze me if the others do their bit for us as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Anyone else think that we will go down with no goals in a shocking display? I have a feeling this sunday will be entirely uneventful. This. They may be a bunch of talentless wasters, but I really believe we'll see something from them on Sunday. They can't and won't just lie down and give out the same shit, Shearer wouldn't let them, not on the last game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 In terms of effort there's been an obvious improvement under Shearer. It's an easy thing to say, but it's absolutely true. And we've certainly looked more assured in defending as a team The problem is, effort doesn't get goals and never will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I fear we're gonna get humped. I think we'll probably even (metaphorically speaking) lube up for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I fear we're gonna get humped. I think we'll probably even (metaphorically speaking) lube up for it. lubing up = Butt, R Taylor, Nolan, Owen and Duff in the same team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Mark Lawrenson has us losing 2 - 0 and being relegated. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8048360.stm Having read the comments from other club's fans here (I know I shouldn't but couldn't help myself) I hope we stay up even more: - http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/05/it_was_once_claimed_the.html Bunch of twats say we deserve to go down because: - We sacked Allardyce Other club's fans don't like Shearer We are full of ourselves and see ourselves as a big club etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 National News again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Very wise words from Bob Moncur. Sums up my feelings 100% “The mood in the city is nail-biting. Everyone was devastated by the home defeat to Fulham. I could tell in people’s voices that they were thinking, ‘I can’t believe this is happening.’ “I’ve seen it before, but there’s a generation who haven’t. I know what happens. No one is going to die. They might want to hang themselves, but after a couple of weeks they’ll look to next season.” We'll be fine. Keep believing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Sunday Bloody Sunday by U2 has eerie lyrics when thinking of the upcoming Sunday. strange as i thought the song was about walking away from a pointless fight. You need to take the original meaning out of the song, and put the context of our relegation battle as the meaning. Called imagination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Sunday Bloody Sunday by U2 has eerie lyrics when thinking of the upcoming Sunday. strange as i thought the song was about walking away from a pointless fight. You need to take the original meaning out of the song, and put the context of our relegation battle as the meaning. Called imagination wouldn't i need to change all the words bar the chorus to do that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Sunday Bloody Sunday by U2 has eerie lyrics when thinking of the upcoming Sunday. strange as i thought the song was about walking away from a pointless fight. You need to take the original meaning out of the song, and put the context of our relegation battle as the meaning. Called imagination What's the betting that SKY will kick off the programme with a movie compilation to that song? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Sunday Bloody Sunday by U2 has eerie lyrics when thinking of the upcoming Sunday. strange as i thought the song was about walking away from a pointless fight. You need to take the original meaning out of the song, and put the context of our relegation battle as the meaning. Called imagination wouldn't i need to change all the words bar the chorus to do that ? Only this verse doesn't fit, so no. And its true we are immune When fact is fiction and tv reality And today the millions cry We eat and drink while tomorrow they die Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Sunday Bloody Sunday by U2 has eerie lyrics when thinking of the upcoming Sunday. strange as i thought the song was about walking away from a pointless fight. You need to take the original meaning out of the song, and put the context of our relegation battle as the meaning. Called imagination wouldn't i need to change all the words bar the chorus to do that ? Only this verse doesn't fit, so no. And its true we are immune When fact is fiction and tv reality And today the millions cry We eat and drink while tomorrow they die did you forget..... Broken bottles under childrens feet Bodies strewn across the dead end street But I wont heed the battle call It puts my back up Puts my back up against the wall and And the battles just begun Theres many lost, but tell me who has won The trench is dug within our hearts And mothers, children, brothers, sisters torn apart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Sunday Bloody Sunday by U2 has eerie lyrics when thinking of the upcoming Sunday. strange as i thought the song was about walking away from a pointless fight. You need to take the original meaning out of the song, and put the context of our relegation battle as the meaning. Called imagination wouldn't i need to change all the words bar the chorus to do that ? Only this verse doesn't fit, so no. And its true we are immune When fact is fiction and tv reality And today the millions cry We eat and drink while tomorrow they die did you forget..... Broken bottles under childrens feet Bodies strewn across the dead end street But I wont heed the battle call It puts my back up Puts my back up against the wall and And the battles just begun Theres many lost, but tell me who has won The trench is dug within our hearts And mothers, children, brothers, sisters torn apart Nope, you just move the setting of the song. And the battles just begun (either as starting anew in the Championship, or in relation to rebuilding after staying up.) Theres many lost, but tell me who has won (If we go down for instance.) The trench is dug within our hearts (If we go down) And mothers, children, brothers, sisters torn apart (In sadness of relegation) And that's just scratching the surface. If done in a video compilation of crying fans/players realizing defeat walking around on the pitch with the fans in the background, it'd be a great fit. It'd also work as a come-back video thing, with sadness first from going down, and then go for the fightback emotions. If you'd want to use songs for stuff, you need to take them out of their original context and put them in a new context which works just as well. You couldn't have music in films/tv shows if you could only use them in places where their original context was met. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Sunday Bloody Sunday by U2 has eerie lyrics when thinking of the upcoming Sunday. strange as i thought the song was about walking away from a pointless fight. You need to take the original meaning out of the song, and put the context of our relegation battle as the meaning. Called imagination wouldn't i need to change all the words bar the chorus to do that ? Only this verse doesn't fit, so no. And its true we are immune When fact is fiction and tv reality And today the millions cry We eat and drink while tomorrow they die did you forget..... Broken bottles under childrens feet Bodies strewn across the dead end street But I wont heed the battle call It puts my back up Puts my back up against the wall and And the battles just begun Theres many lost, but tell me who has won The trench is dug within our hearts And mothers, children, brothers, sisters torn apart Nope, you just move the setting of the song. And the battles just begun (either as starting anew in the Championship, or in relation to rebuilding after staying up.) Theres many lost, but tell me who has won (If we go down for instance.) The trench is dug within our hearts (If we go down) And mothers, children, brothers, sisters torn apart (In sadness of relegation) And that's just scratching the surface. If done in a video compilation of crying fans/players realizing defeat walking around on the pitch with the fans in the background, it'd be a great fit. It'd also work as a come-back video thing, with sadness first from going down, and then go for the fightback emotions. If you'd want to use songs for stuff, you need to take them out of their original context and put them in a new context which works just as well. You couldn't have music in films/tv shows if you could only use them in places where their original context was met. i can't see it that way. 2nd line as you quoted "but tell me who has won" only means one thing. more interested in your twist on the first verse i quoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Just want to be over now, just feel drained. Had a shit day at work and usually I'd be looking forward to an away match even if we're unlikely get a result because it's a weekend away with the lads getting pissed with a load of other lads who are willing to sing any song I decide to belt out but my nerves are just fucking frayed. I've had dreams/nightmares about the game every night this week (depending on if we're winning or losing in them) and the last dream I had there were tattered old Canadian flags all over Birmingham because Villa had just played Canada in Europe the night before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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