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:rolleyes: Christ Almighty. He was in the position to get the shot away.

 

I'm not arguing about this s***, i'm honestly not. He's useful against w*** opposition. Fundamental point.

 

Better than shit against w*** opposition, I agree.

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He may be s*** sometimes, but again the service he's getting from our midfield is not the best. They're not able to give him what he likes best: through balls.  Unlike Owen, Viduka, Martins and Duff, Loven manages to score/play well against the weaker opponents: Bham, Wham, Wolves. That's 9 points he  contributed to. Those points are the difference between our current position and the relegation fight. When we also factor that he was free, is on sensible wages and had a big part in  our promotion (even when his father died), his transfer suddenly become one of the best deals we've made.  We have a tendency to ridicule him. But we rarely acknowledge what he's done for this club. I think he  deserves some applause :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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'best deals we've made' :lol:

 

Think he means for the money he has been good business, compared to the likes of Duff Martins Owen who were probably earning like 4-5times his wage.

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'best deals we've made' :lol:

 

Think he means for the money he has been good business, compared to the likes of Duff Martins Owen who were probably earning like 4-5times his wage.

 

Correct. Owen contributed to our relegation, while Loven (on small wages) played a solid part in our promotion campaign. The math is simple..

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Still wank. Ranger would do his job better.

 

He probably would but with no premier league goals to his name and limited experience Pardew isn't going to put him in ahead of Lovenkrands. It's catch 22 with the likes of Ranger and Vukic. Personally I think they'll bring far more to the team than some current first teamers but until they are proven they won't be picked ahead of them.

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I don't question his commitment and I am very grateful for the significant contribution he made to our promotion season. He's got a couple of goals and assists this term too, largely against poor opposition, and he seems committed enough in his comportment (if not his running/challenging for the ball!). I'm quite happy to have him in the squad for this season but as fourth or fifth choice alongside Kuqi. It's not his fault Pardew starts him ahead of Ranger.

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He still has no place in a PL squad. So he should be getting occassion goals; given that he doesn't really create, hold the ball up, link play or defend from the front.

 

Take it easy, Ronaldo. No one here is saying Peter is good enough for a starting place here or even being 3 choice. But fact is he is here and that he more or less delivers ok against average teams. has scored 5 goals and made some assists.

 

He is acting quiet professional and his work rate is ok during matches. He seems to get in position a get chances which is important!

 

We (you) should stop being so negative and accept he has done better than we actually though he would after Caroll left.

 

He will probably not play a part next year and he knows it... so just be happy when delivers like yesterday O0

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I have been on his case all season, hate to see him starting but credit to him, he was great yesterday and is a very unselfish player.

 

And he was great against WH and Bham too. That's NINE points. Did Oba, Viduka or Owen score against those kind of opponents? No! That's why we were relegated.

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I have been on his case all season, hate to see him starting but credit to him, he was great yesterday and is a very unselfish player.

 

And he was great against WH and Bham too. That's NINE points. Did Oba, Viduka or Owen score against those kind of opponents? No! That's why we were relegated.

 

Yes. Martins scored 8 in 24 & Owen 8 in 24, Lovenkrands has 4 in 18. They all were useless cunts though for the whole. The difference was that Owen, Martins and Viduka didn't perform to expectations whereas any goals Lovenkrands scores are a bonus as no-one really expects him to do anything.

 

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He did areet yesterday, like. He was involved in all of the first three goals (his pressure on the defender for Nolan's goal was what presented Williamson with the ball), and probably should have had a penalty.

 

I still grimace when I see his name in our starting line-up, but he does have the occasional efficient game when he scores. If he makes anything more than fleeting cameos and cup appearances next season however, we should all be very worried.

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