Skirge Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Ok. No more posts then if no sensible discussion. Thanks Don't bite man... they just baiting you.. If the club won't sell players then there is not much they can do even if they want away, the longer the sale takes the more chance there is of these bidding clubs starting to look at thater options. I guess that helps us keep our better players but it also means we keep the crap too. All we can do is hope the sale happens very soon and Shearer is taken on then things will settle for everyone as they will know where their futures lie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Ok. No more posts then if no sensible discussion. Thanks Well you cannot expect sympathy from people who earn less in 2 or more years than the players who have just taken their club down when the players then say they are going to leave. There is not a sensible discussion in here that can justify the wages that our players are on are there? The players have good reasons to be unhappy with the leadership at the club, though, no matter how overpaid they are. And so have the fans, despite being a bunch of impoverished chavs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Ok. No more posts then if no sensible discussion. Thanks Don't bite man... they just baiting you.. If the club won't sell players then there is not much they can do even if they want away, the longer the sale takes the more chance there is of these bidding clubs starting to look at thater options. I guess that helps us keep our better players but it also means we keep the crap too. All we can do is hope the sale happens very soon and Shearer is taken on then things will settle for everyone as they will know where their futures lie. TBF we have been saying that since page 1. And the saga continues........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Steve McMahon says Profitable Group are waiting to hear if their bid to buy Newcastle United is accepted by owner Mike Ashley. The Singapore-based investment company has made a 'realistic' offer for the Magpies, although it is not known if that matches Ashley's £100million asking price. McMahon says Profitable are serious in their move for Newcastle, who have suffered 12 months of turmoil following Kevin Keegan's sensational exit to their relegation to the Championship. Former Blackpool and Swindon boss McMahon insists he feels for the club's plight and believes Profitable are primed to breathe new life into the floundering giants. Realistic offer "Our people have been in London all week working with lawyers and attorneys and we have made them a realistic offer," McMahon told the Evening Chronicle. "We have been pushing ahead and, make no doubt about it, the money is in place - we are for real. We certainly have the funds to go through with it. "We initially made a tentative bid to begin with, and discussions then took place. We were told to come back, and that's what we have done. "There has been a formal offer and we want to get things done and dusted as quickly as possible. We are just waiting to hear - and we hope to hear something today. FROM SSN "I have been keeping tabs on the whole thing since Newcastle were relegated. It's just heartbreaking, and it is affecting people's lives up there. If we can give Newcastle the kiss of life then we'd love to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Ok. No more posts then if no sensible discussion. Thanks Don't bite man... they just baiting you.. If the club won't sell players then there is not much they can do even if they want away, the longer the sale takes the more chance there is of these bidding clubs starting to look at thater options. I guess that helps us keep our better players but it also means we keep the crap too. All we can do is hope the sale happens very soon and Shearer is taken on then things will settle for everyone as they will know where their futures lie. TBF we have been saying that since page 1. And the saga continues........ Yup but giving eachother shit won't help it go any faster, its these same overpaid players everyone will be cheering for come the start of the season, and IF they start winning it will be as though they were gods all along fickle football fans man, we are all guilty of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Ok. No more posts then if no sensible discussion. Thanks Don't bite man... they just baiting you.. If the club won't sell players then there is not much they can do even if they want away, the longer the sale takes the more chance there is of these bidding clubs starting to look at thater options. I guess that helps us keep our better players but it also means we keep the crap too. All we can do is hope the sale happens very soon and Shearer is taken on then things will settle for everyone as they will know where their futures lie. TBF we have been saying that since page 1. And the saga continues........ Yup but giving eachother s*** won't help it go any faster, its these same overpaid players everyone will be cheering for come the start of the season, and IF they start winning it will be as though they were gods all along fickle football fans man, we are all guilty of it. Agree with that, this forum has its fair share of in-fighting, but that is a result of our circumstance. There aren't many in the squad who deserve plaudits but whoever is in the squad come the close of the transfer window needs to be supported until the day they move on. The reality is there are more painful days ahead until Jabba moves on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Ok. No more posts then if no sensible discussion. Thanks Don't bite man... they just baiting you.. If the club won't sell players then there is not much they can do even if they want away, the longer the sale takes the more chance there is of these bidding clubs starting to look at thater options. I guess that helps us keep our better players but it also means we keep the crap too. All we can do is hope the sale happens very soon and Shearer is taken on then things will settle for everyone as they will know where their futures lie. TBF we have been saying that since page 1. And the saga continues........ Yup but giving eachother s*** won't help it go any faster, its these same overpaid players everyone will be cheering for come the start of the season, and IF they start winning it will be as though they were gods all along fickle football fans man, we are all guilty of it. Agree with that, this forum has its fair share of in-fighting, but that is a result of our circumstance. There aren't many in the squad who deserve plaudits but whoever is in the squad come the close of the transfer window needs to be supported until the day they move on. The reality is there are more painful days ahead until Jabba moves on. Aye all part of being a fan, there will be player most fans like regardless, players such as Habib Beye & Steve Harper, there will bo those that will be great one minute and slated the next like Enrique & Jonas but come the 8th of August we MUST get behind those that are here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 So who's actually in the Profitable Group then? It can't just be some former England player, I thought it was a Singaporean business? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Profitable Group http://www.profitablegroup.com/group-executives.aspx Business Associates http://www.profitablegroup.com/partners-group.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 I'm not sure why the fans should give a toss about the players when the feeling clearly isn't mutual. They're all tossrings. Apart from Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Good article from Louise Taylor....surely its an impersonator? http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/jul/18/newcastle-united-mike-ashley-alan-shearer Ten questions to help clear the fog over TynesideMike Ashley's Newcastle are still without a new owner or a manager as the club prepares for life in the Championship Mike Ashley, the owner of Newcastle United, who is trying to sell the club that was relegated from the Premier League last season. Photograph: Lee Smith/Action Images Will club be sold this summer? Sources close to the sale have admitted that, while "genuine hope" of a takeover being completed before the end of August remains, there is a growing possibility that Newcastle may still be under Mike Ashley's control come September. There is no reason why a deal could not be done in the autumn but football clubs traditionally change hands during, or just before, transfer windows, thereby enabling new owners to make an immediate impact by buying and selling players. Sources indicate that if a deal does go through this summer, it will take another month to complete. Things could, of course, be accelerated were Ashley to lower his £100m asking price significantly. Who are the potential buyers? With any consortium entering the due diligence process required to sign "non-disclosure" agreements binding them to utmost discretion, their identities are unknown although it has leaked that Freddy Shepherd, Newcastle's former chairman, is involved with one group. Two consortiums, probably from the United States and Malaysia, remain "very serious", another remains in the equation and others are on the periphery. Why is the process so slow? The due diligence process – an inventory of Newcastle's finances – has thrown up some unpleasant surprises and interested parties are duly employing extra forensic accountants and lawyers to dig even deeper while also providing in-depth forecasts of potential future revenue streams. This is sometimes referred to as "due diligence squared". Newcastle's enormous player wage bill – currently £65m per annum – is giving key investors cold feet. Principal concerns revolve around the financially ruinous fall-out if the team do not win immediate promotion back to the Premier League. It also does not help that Ashley has retreated into "remote" mode. Where does Alan Shearer fit in? Sources close to Shearer say he is still "completely in the dark" about his chances of returning as Newcastle's manager. The former England captain wants the job and it is thought all bar one of the consortiums involved would appoint him. Ashley, though, resolutely refuses to recruit any manager until a takeover is sealed. Shearer is still contracted to work as a television football pundit for another year. He is currently in talks with an "extremely understanding" BBC which is allowing him to keep his options open. Soon though, it will need a decision. Who else is in the frame? Seemingly not Joe Kinnear. In a rare public statement Newcastle ruled out the possibility of Kinnear returning to the helm. Then again, Ashley has been known to change his mind. Alan Curbishley remains a dark horse. Might the players mutiny? Up to seven – including Steven Taylor, Habib Beye, Nicky Butt, Sébastien Bassong and Alan Smith – have threatened to submit transfer requests at the start of the week if Shearer has not been made manager. Talk of impending, wholesale revolt may be exaggerated but Newcastle's players are in increasingly militant mood. Why no player sales and buys? Clearly oblivious to the reality that such enduring inactivity might hinder rather than accelerate a sale, a senior club source has declared: "There will be no players coming or going until a buyer has been found." With Newcastle players' often exorbitant wages already discouraging prospective purchasers, stringent efforts should be made to move some on. If, and when, they are eventually sold it is likely Ashley's successor will be forced either to pay them off or continue meeting a percentage of their salaries at new clubs. Do the fans make it difficult? According to popular stereotype, Toon Army foot soldiers suffer badly from Messiah Complexes, demand an absurdly entertaining, yet winning, brand of football and decline to offer their heroes space or privacy in the city's "goldfish bowl". This is largely, often laughably, false. If a few Newcastle fans appear guilty of overly romantic notions, the vast majority are grittily realistic. After having their fingers badly burnt when Ashley - remember his beer drinking days in the Bigg Market - effectively played them for fools their old, near unconditional, loyalty is fast evaporating. Even so, the new owners can still expect to inherit some of the best supporters in England – providing, of course, they bin the team's gruesome new yellow and orange striped away kit. It does not go on general sale until next week but Newcastle have already reduced the price of replicas by 20%. Are they a victim of geography? Enticing "big names" to Tyneside has frequently involved Newcastle paying way over the odds on wages. Is Roy Keane a problem? Sunderland's former manager has now decamped to Ipswich where promotion to the Premier League is this season's aim. Some potential Newcastle buyers are seemingly having second thoughts after realising that competition from potentially strong rivals including, among others, Ipswich, Middlesbrough and Cardiff may make escaping the Championship anything but easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Good article from Louise Taylor....surely its an impersonator? http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/jul/18/newcastle-united-mike-ashley-alan-shearer Ten questions to help clear the fog over TynesideMike Ashley's Newcastle are still without a new owner or a manager as the club prepares for life in the Championship Mike Ashley, the owner of Newcastle United, who is trying to sell the club that was relegated from the Premier League last season. Photograph: Lee Smith/Action Images Will club be sold this summer? Sources close to the sale have admitted that, while "genuine hope" of a takeover being completed before the end of August remains, there is a growing possibility that Newcastle may still be under Mike Ashley's control come September. There is no reason why a deal could not be done in the autumn but football clubs traditionally change hands during, or just before, transfer windows, thereby enabling new owners to make an immediate impact by buying and selling players. Sources indicate that if a deal does go through this summer, it will take another month to complete. Things could, of course, be accelerated were Ashley to lower his £100m asking price significantly. Who are the potential buyers? With any consortium entering the due diligence process required to sign "non-disclosure" agreements binding them to utmost discretion, their identities are unknown although it has leaked that Freddy Shepherd, Newcastle's former chairman, is involved with one group. Two consortiums, probably from the United States and Malaysia, remain "very serious", another remains in the equation and others are on the periphery. Why is the process so slow? The due diligence process – an inventory of Newcastle's finances – has thrown up some unpleasant surprises and interested parties are duly employing extra forensic accountants and lawyers to dig even deeper while also providing in-depth forecasts of potential future revenue streams. This is sometimes referred to as "due diligence squared". Newcastle's enormous player wage bill – currently £65m per annum – is giving key investors cold feet. Principal concerns revolve around the financially ruinous fall-out if the team do not win immediate promotion back to the Premier League. It also does not help that Ashley has retreated into "remote" mode. Where does Alan Shearer fit in? Sources close to Shearer say he is still "completely in the dark" about his chances of returning as Newcastle's manager. The former England captain wants the job and it is thought all bar one of the consortiums involved would appoint him. Ashley, though, resolutely refuses to recruit any manager until a takeover is sealed. Shearer is still contracted to work as a television football pundit for another year. He is currently in talks with an "extremely understanding" BBC which is allowing him to keep his options open. Soon though, it will need a decision. Who else is in the frame? Seemingly not Joe Kinnear. In a rare public statement Newcastle ruled out the possibility of Kinnear returning to the helm. Then again, Ashley has been known to change his mind. Alan Curbishley remains a dark horse. Might the players mutiny? Up to seven – including Steven Taylor, Habib Beye, Nicky Butt, Sébastien Bassong and Alan Smith – have threatened to submit transfer requests at the start of the week if Shearer has not been made manager. Talk of impending, wholesale revolt may be exaggerated but Newcastle's players are in increasingly militant mood. Why no player sales and buys? Clearly oblivious to the reality that such enduring inactivity might hinder rather than accelerate a sale, a senior club source has declared: "There will be no players coming or going until a buyer has been found." With Newcastle players' often exorbitant wages already discouraging prospective purchasers, stringent efforts should be made to move some on. If, and when, they are eventually sold it is likely Ashley's successor will be forced either to pay them off or continue meeting a percentage of their salaries at new clubs. Do the fans make it difficult? According to popular stereotype, Toon Army foot soldiers suffer badly from Messiah Complexes, demand an absurdly entertaining, yet winning, brand of football and decline to offer their heroes space or privacy in the city's "goldfish bowl". This is largely, often laughably, false. If a few Newcastle fans appear guilty of overly romantic notions, the vast majority are grittily realistic. After having their fingers badly burnt when Ashley - remember his beer drinking days in the Bigg Market - effectively played them for fools their old, near unconditional, loyalty is fast evaporating. Even so, the new owners can still expect to inherit some of the best supporters in England – providing, of course, they bin the team's gruesome new yellow and orange striped away kit. It does not go on general sale until next week but Newcastle have already reduced the price of replicas by 20%. Are they a victim of geography? Enticing "big names" to Tyneside has frequently involved Newcastle paying way over the odds on wages. Is Roy Keane a problem? Sunderland's former manager has now decamped to Ipswich where promotion to the Premier League is this season's aim. Some potential Newcastle buyers are seemingly having second thoughts after realising that competition from potentially strong rivals including, among others, Ipswich, Middlesbrough and Cardiff may make escaping the Championship anything but easy. Whats good about it unless she wants a degree in the bleeding obvious?Why would Roy Keane be a problem,in any case? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Good in the sense that she didnt seem as blatantly biased as normal.......i agree that roy keane question was totally random. not once during the takeover talk has anyone thought "hmmm, but i wonder what roy keane would think down in ipswich" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 She can't write an article without mentioning her beloved Keano. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 I was certain that Keane bit was added on by you, KSH. How ridiculously irrelevant. But yeah, fuck all new there. It's always nice to see journos state the truth about us lot though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 She's taking the mick out herself there. What a bizarre little twat she is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Wait a minute! Let me get this straight, there is a woman writing about football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Wait a minute! Let me get this straight, there is a woman writing about football? http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/179/louisetaylor.jpg No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Wait a minute! Let me get this straight, there is a woman writing about football? http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/179/louisetaylor.jpg No. I wouldn't shag her with a stolen cock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Wait a minute! Let me get this straight, there is a woman writing about football? http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/179/louisetaylor.jpg No. I wouldn't shag her with a stolen cock. I wouldn't ride her into battle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 She could choke on my bell end any day, she has a mouth made for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 She really wants a bit of Royston. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Sorry if already posted (i guess most of you have seen it already) lol, every time Yes, its unfunny nonesense every single time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/179/louisetaylor.jpg No. What I don't understand is why anyone thought it would be a good idea to hire T-Bag as a sports reporter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 She could choke on my bell end any day, she has a mouth made for it. That has to be the funniest post in this whole fucking depressing thread! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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