Ashley17 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 The stupid thing is, if he'd said in May "I've made mistakes, here's some money, here's Shearer, let's get promoted, sell the wasters and fix this" then we'd have every chance of going back up and then he could sell us for a lot more. Instead he's stuck in two minds and is going to lose even more money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 The fat get is in no rush to sell. He holds the cards in a sense now, we have started well, 7 out of 9 against some of the stronger teams, showing the league isnt as strong as some make out, and showing our chances of going up as good. If he dosnt sell he will still get 60-80mil for us next year without promotion as we will be a trimmer squad. If we go up he could get another 100mil on top Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Another problem is that if he stays and holds out for promotion (and more money). Then we are absolutely fucked in 10/11. Another summer takeover will drag and we will be nowhere near ready for the Premiership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 He may well have decided to try and wear down the antipathetic Geordie support, anticipating that he will be vindicated in showing that his way (cutting the squad to bare bones, and still winning enough games to get promotion) was the right way. Certainly seems a stubborn enough bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 If Ashley was as good at trimming fat as he is at trimming wage bills he'd be quite a svelte chap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Doesn't sound positive. I don't think we'll be sold until after the window slams shut, if at all, which means no squad improvements too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I've never seen a man so desperate to sell not acting so desperate to sell. It baffles me completely why he's faffing around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 surely "there or thereabouts" is a good thing though?? plus it means less obstacles if they're rubbishing Graham Roberts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 is that avatar that pr1ck steve wraith?? ----------------->>> Wraith of Khan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 The stupid thing is, if he'd said in May "I've made mistakes, here's some money, here's Shearer, let's get promoted, sell the wasters and fix this" then we'd have every chance of going back up and then he could sell us for a lot more. Instead he's stuck in two minds and is going to lose even more money. Too easy. Too sensible. Too normal. We're lucky he hasn't let the club stagnante by not appointing anyone to manage us with the transfer window almost closed, and hasn't managed to sell the club. Oh wait... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 The stupid thing is, if he'd said in May "I've made mistakes, here's some money, here's Shearer, let's get promoted, sell the wasters and fix this" then we'd have every chance of going back up and then he could sell us for a lot more. Instead he's stuck in two minds and is going to lose even more money. Too easy. Too sensible. Too normal. We're lucky he hasn't let the club stagnante by not appointing anyone to manage us with the transfer window almost closed, and hasn't managed to sell the club. Oh wait... He's too rash and doesn't think things through. He reminds me of Del boy. "He who dares wins" as he goes rushing in and making another cock up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I despair at the idea of them thinking we dont need to add to our squad. Perhaps at best theyll just sell & then replace some of our higher paid earners. This cock is going to completely fuck up our chances of promotion & end up apologising about it all over again. Round in fucking circles, twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I despair at the idea of them thinking we dont need to add to our squad. Perhaps at best theyll just sell & then replace some of our higher paid earners. This cock is going to completely f*** up our chances of promotion & end up apologising about it all over again. Round in f***ing circles, t***. We have to replace Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? "Bringing Alan Shearer back to Newcastle United was the best decision I have made" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? Not at all, but I thought it was worth floating the idea to get people thinking and possibly debating. I just have a funny feeling in the meeting that Shearer went in with some ideas, Ashley said "here's what I've been told by my financial people" and Shearer said "well here are my ideas, take it or leave it" and it kind of went downhill from there. If Shearer's "demands" were anywhere near what Ashley's restraints were I think Shearer would be our boss right now, simple as. I don't buy all of that not being able to appoint a manager before the club was sold - because Ashley knew how long it was going to take to sell the club and we could be a much more ideal club to be taken over right now if we had a proper manager in place with at least some proper direction on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? "Bringing Alan Shearer back to Newcastle United was the best decision I have made" He has said a lot of things to be fair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? "Bringing Alan Shearer back to Newcastle United was the best decision I have made" He has said a lot of things to be fair I wish he fucking had, then we wouldn't be in this situation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! If Shearer doesn't fancy the job under the current circumstances, then either he or Ashley should come out and say so. I don't think that to be true though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? Pity your argument falls down over the fact that what Mike Ashley knows about football wouldn't cover a postage stamp. "Ashley could see he was clueless" ffs. Have a word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? "Bringing Alan Shearer back to Newcastle United was the best decision I have made" He has said a lot of things to be fair I wish he fucking had, then we wouldn't be in this situation Oh please explain. How him feeding us more lies would have got us out of this mess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? fuck me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Pity your argument falls down over the fact that what Mike Ashley knows about football wouldn't cover a postage stamp. "Ashley could see he was clueless" ffs. Have a word. Put your handbag down, dear. I was merely following cubaricho's line of being Devil's Advocate in this instance. I blame the boredom of not knowing where the fuck we are with this whole sorry saga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Pity your argument falls down over the fact that what Mike Ashley knows about football wouldn't cover a postage stamp. "Ashley could see he was clueless" ffs. Have a word. Put your handbag down, dear. I was merely following cubaricho's line of being Devil's Advocate in this instance. I blame the boredom of not knowing where the fuck we are with this whole sorry saga. Fair enough, I blame the anger of wanting to stove Mike Ashley's head in with a rusty claw hammer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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