Guest sicko2ndbest Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 He needs to be hounded out before and after games. And via the Local press. Or murder Agree 100%. Something needs to be done, not during the game when the lads need our support, but before, at half time and after. Are we really prepared to sit by and let this lying, deceitful, unlawful cretin get away with blue murder as he is currently doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiekev Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I'm more worried why Wise had to watch what he said because of an ON GOING legal battle, is he going for unfair dismissal as he seemed to make it well known that MA authorised all the dealings he made before he clearly stated "Before Mike sacked me" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Since when has Moat not had the money to buy the club, I was under the impresion that he was struggling to assure Barclays about the overfraft ? Anyway that's all beside the point. I would much rather spend the rest of my living life in the second div/coca cola league that have that arse Ashley and Co running and owning us. For god's sake the guy is a grade a pratt, Has lied to us the fans, the press (no big deal) and attempted to undermine a manager dragged the club through the courts, appointed JKF as manager, gave his mate the chairmans job, possibly the worst chairman ever in the history of his club, let the club slip down a league, He will not invest in the club on the playing side and i'm sure he will continue to drive cost down how ever he can. Just my 2p worth Now I am not for one minute suggesting the old board were anywhere near as bad as Ashley (they clearly weren't) but I seem to remember lists of reasons why "fat fred had to go" and obviously this billionaire fella was going to have us back challenging for Europe. I don't know all the ins and outs but the one constant I have read is Mort trying to get enough investment to take the club over which is what causes my worry. What if he does take over and we don't get promoted, will he be able to afford us running at a loss for another season, will he be able to keep the players and reinvest to push for promotion again next season? He might well be able to do all these things, these are just my concerns. I want Ashley and his mob out as soon as is possible, but only if its going to be an improvement. For all fat freds faults and there was plenty of them, he tried a lot harder to achieve something with the club than ashley ever will (alot of the current money problems are his fault). We can only hope that Mort and his backers do have a sound plan to run the club, rather than ashleys jobs for the boys method. Like has been stated already if we get taken over before January and a small investment is made by Mort's lot then the money we make from the prem status will help us progress and stablise. If we get promoted under ashley can you see any investment coming from him, or will he use the money to remove the debts and hope for prem survival ? Anyway this is all based on a huge assumption that mort will be the new owner. I have no faith in Ashley doing anything to take this club forward, I am just worried about someone else taking over who doesn't have the resources to take us forward (and maybe even slip further back) if we don't make it up this season. This is all assumptions based on what I have read in the papers but then a forum would be a bit quiet without the occasional discussion from an assumption. My fear is Mort as a fan is thinking with his heart instead of his head and gambling on us going up first time without a real "plan" on what to do if we don't. Cannot disagree with any of that, but at this point in time i personally (not that we as fans get much say) would risk Moat ( ) over a future thats as bleak as i can remeber in my years as a fan. Not too sure many would turn Shearer down as manager and he's a fan, and can we afford to snub Moat because he's a fan ? Don't think anyone's saying being a fan should preclude him from buying the club, what people are saying is that they are worried about whether or not he's got the financial (or otherwise) ability to run the club after having bought it. Just look at Portsmouth for what can happen if someone can afford to buy a club, but not run it afterwards. Do we want that to happen? Obviously not, and I'm not saying that's what would happen if Moat takes over, but it is a legitimate concern for people to have about him. Major difference between us an Pompey is income I'm guessing the point you're trying to make is that we usually have a higher income than Pompey and therefore everything's going to be just fine, well none of us have the slightest idea if it is or not. So simply saying that we have a higher income than them is neither here nor there really. It's much more complicated than that. If he took over and we failed to get promoted then and only them would it be of any concern. There's little comparison between us and Portsmouth (as Premiership sides) financially and even Portsmouth have only been left in the position they are because of extremely poor management at all levels. I'll say it again, if you're going to be worried about anything with Moat then be worried about his total lack of experience in running a Football club, not how much money he has which is of little concern as long as he runs the club well. To be fair, I was saying that I was worried about his ability to run the club after he'd bought it, not just the financial side, although I know that's the direction the conversation has taken since. One thing I would say is that it's true that the income we'd generate after promotion would be significantly higher than if we didn't get promoted, but there's also the additional costs of playing Premiership football to take into account, so focussing only on income is a little misleading. Also, there's the question of how Moat would be financing the takeover to consider, if he's going to do it by borrowing then there'll be repayment costs to take into account and these will undoubtedly be covered by the club. So without knowing the details of his funding we can't assume that everything's going to be okay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Wise rekons he going to hang on to the club until we get promoted. Hope f***ing not. f*** off wise , i hate you even more. I have the fear that this will be the case. I just have this horrible feeling that the anti Ashley singing could have the opposite effect with this bloke. That along with us looking like we might go back up does he gamble on us getting promoted and getting more money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VegasToon Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 We are never go to be sold. Ashley is always going to want more than the club is worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Redheugh Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Right At 11am I will tell you what I know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Wise rekons he going to hang on to the club until we get promoted. Hope f***ing not. f*** off wise , i hate you even more. All very well, IF we get promotion. So long as he makes sure we do, then gets out of this place sharpish. Obviously i'm not too sure the latter would happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Don't bite, people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 11am? That's the time I normally go for a massive poo, seems like I'm going to miss the big news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Right At 11am I will tell you what I know Just tell us now man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Redheugh Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I dont know fully thats why. Dont want to tell you all half-truths, do I? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I dont know fully thats why. Dont want to tell you all half-truths, do I? Don't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Ban him at 10.59 in the morning. He's been giving it this rot for weeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Right At 11am I will tell you what I know 11am when? tommorrow? 6days time? new years eve? next millenium? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I dont know fully thats why. Dont want to tell you all half-truths, do I? Well it'd be a 50% improvement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Right At 11am I will tell you what I know riddle me this, riddle me that, whos afraid of the big bad bat!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 so lee you'll have the headline of the chronicle for us at 11am. meh it keeps me amused Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Is that poster Lee Ryder? If so he posts more about the Daily Mail than the Ronnie Gill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I dont know fully thats why. Dont want to tell you all half-truths, do I? Well give us the half you know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Is that poster Lee Ryder? If so he posts more about the Daily Mail than the Ronnie Gill hes had headlines from the chronicle too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NICK C Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I been reading Sillius Dickius' comments. They look like the work of an expert WUM. I hope I am wrong like! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VegasToon Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Sillius has PM me with the date. We will have an annoucement on 12/21/2012 at 11:00 AM. He also stated Dave has all of the ITK info on who he is and to PM Dave if you want to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I can't see Ashley selling up when it looks like we're a good shout for promotion. We're top of the league and if we go up he'll get a much better price - why sell now? If he was that desperate to cut his losses he'd have done it many months ago. The Keegan explanation has logic but perhaps that's just journalists putting two and two and getting five. Of course I hope there are some legs to this story but I just don't see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filflop1 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I think the reason we see rich arabs being interested in other clubs and not ours is down to one thing only ASHLEY. I mean the blokes some how bluffed his way into being as wealthy as he is, and the way he runs the club and handles himself would you really want to do business with this guy as attractive as Newcastle is as a club to buy, theres one major stumbling block the fat lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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