Zach Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Italy only just scraped through their group thanks to a late Spain winner aswell, if were talking about luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teohgk Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Italy only just scraped through their group thanks to a late Spain winner aswell, if were talking about luck. eh~~~ they would qualified as group winner if the Spain match ended 0-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 How is he right? We were the best team in the group even if we never exactly played that well. To suggest we were lucky is just daft. EDIT: Lucky to have been dealt such a p*ss easy group, aye. Dunno against Ukraine i thought we were quite lucky..... in a sense i agree with Pirlo i would'nt go as far him.... i dont think we were outplayed by France we kept them at arms length, the Sweden could have easily gone either way and i felt Ukraine were a bit unlucky. Having said that i think Pirlo has been a bit stupid here and will only motivate the lads. Oh yeah Italy was top of the group until Spain's late winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Italy only just scraped through their group thanks to a late Spain winner aswell, if were talking about luck. eh~~~ they would qualified as group winner if the Spain match ended 0-0 Oops, my mistake . I thought they would've went out on head to head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Pirlo is right but Italy won the world cup in much the same way. Defending, taking their chances and a good deal of luck. So it's a bit rich coming from Pirlo to say we are 'very lucky' to get this far when we haven't lost a game yet. Gerrard and Hodgson sound confident enough and are saying the right things. It's just a case of whether we can hit form at the right time, but I've seen nothing from Italy to suggest we'll take a pasting here. It'll be a tight game and Hodgson's experience in Italy might work to our advantage because he knows their tactical mindset. If we can play at a quick tempo we may last the distance better than they do. When Croatia upped the tempo Italy looked tired in the latter stages of the game. And we do have some serious pace on our bench. Goes without saying we need to be tight on Pirlo every time he gets the ball. What odds on an early clattering tackle and yellow card from Parker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 How is he right? We were the best team in the group even if we never exactly played that well. To suggest we were lucky is just daft. EDIT: Lucky to have been dealt such a p*ss easy group, aye. Dunno against Ukraine i thought we were quite lucky..... in a sense i agree with Pirlo i would'nt go as far him.... i dont think we were outplayed by France we kept them at arms length, the Sweden could have easily gone either way and i felt Ukraine were a bit unlucky. Having said that i think Pirlo has been a bit stupid here and will only motivate the lads. Oh yeah Italy was top of the group until Spain's late winner. France were shit and despite their abundance of talent in forward positions they carried very little offensive threat (not just against us either). The Sweden game could have went either way, but just because we had to come from behind doesn't mean we were lucky, the fact it allowed us to display our ability to score goals when we needed was actually ecouraging if anything. Ukraine yeah, first half especially they deserved to lead and if they were a better side they probably would have done, all in all though we comfortably finished top of the group. p.s. It's just mind games from Pirlo, I doubt he even believes what he's said here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 You don't top the group with 7 points just by being lucky we had an element of luck in the Ukraine game but would have qualified anyway. We were disciplined and professional against France and Ukraine and showed great spirit to come back against Sweden. I reckon we'll beat the Italians tonight. It'll not be pretty, or comfortable, but we'll do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Had the dodgy goal against Ukraine counted then they would have been lucky - it was offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I'm excited and I don't even support England. It is completely 50-50 to call and whilst probably a poor game, it'll be tense and dramatic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 How is he right? We were the best team in the group even if we never exactly played that well. To suggest we were lucky is just daft. EDIT: Lucky to have been dealt such a p*ss easy group, aye. Dunno against Ukraine i thought we were quite lucky..... in a sense i agree with Pirlo i would'nt go as far him.... i dont think we were outplayed by France we kept them at arms length, the Sweden could have easily gone either way and i felt Ukraine were a bit unlucky. Having said that i think Pirlo has been a bit stupid here and will only motivate the lads. Oh yeah Italy was top of the group until Spain's late winner. France were s*** and despite their abundance of talent in forward positions they carried very little offensive threat (not just against us either). The Sweden game could have went either way, but just because we had to come from behind doesn't mean we were lucky, the fact it allowed us to display our ability to score goals when we needed was actually ecouraging if anything. Ukraine yeah, first half especially they deserved to lead and if they were a better side they probably would have done, all in all though we comfortably finished top of the group. p.s. It's just mind games from Pirlo, I doubt he even believes what he's said here. Agreed, especially on the mind games part although i think its stupid all this will do is give us more motivation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Very much looking forward to tonight. This is Hodgson's toughest test yet. I'm going to predict a 4-5-1 formation just so we can match Italy's midfield. It goes without saying - stop Italy from playing their thing and that should disrupt their rhythm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 How is he right? We were the best team in the group even if we never exactly played that well. To suggest we were lucky is just daft. EDIT: Lucky to have been dealt such a p*ss easy group, aye. He's attempting to play mind games, always dangerous comments to make though. England were fortunate against both Sweden and Ukraine, means nothing tonight though. I really don't think we were especially fortunate against Sweden though. The most lucky event of that game was the Swede's first goal. I just don't really understand what mind games he thinks he's playing. If he'd tried to talk us up a bit more I'd understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Scottie P will give Pirlo and De Rossi the run around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 England must have borrowed our luck, Mag kernts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 How is he right? We were the best team in the group even if we never exactly played that well. To suggest we were lucky is just daft. EDIT: Lucky to have been dealt such a p*ss easy group, aye. He's attempting to play mind games, always dangerous comments to make though. England were fortunate against both Sweden and Ukraine, means nothing tonight though. I really don't think we were especially fortunate against Sweden though. The most lucky event of that game was the Swede's first goal. I just don't really understand what mind games he thinks he's playing. If he'd tried to talk us up a bit more I'd understand. Well I suppose it depends how you look at it, Sweden's first and our winner were both really bad defending/goalkeeping but both had elements of luck. Welbeck's finish was just pure spawn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Still 3 hours to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Nothing to fear from Italy. 2-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Italy looked very good in large parts against both Spain and France but they failed to finish both off, should encourage England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Italy looked very good in large parts against both Spain and France but they failed to finish both off, should encourage England. Italy played France? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Italy looked very good in large parts against both Spain and France but they failed to finish both off, should encourage England. Italy played France? Croatia even. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Knew what you meant there. Agree with you, too. They scored from a counter attack - which they probably won't get too many today - against Spain, and scored from a free kick against Croatia. We won't count Ireland, as harsh as it might sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Going to be a great game this like. England to win on penalties. Ballotelli and another to get sent off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 off out into town shortly to watch it. Hope the weather makes it's mind up whether it wants to piss down all evening or just stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest je85 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Looking forward to Rooney vs Pirlo if Italy play the back 4 and diamond like vs Ireland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Come on England you fuckers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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