Ikon Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Leon Osman Good for him. Did he get the honour of shaking hands with Ibra? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Leon Osman Good for him. Did he get the honour of shaking hands with Ibra? Why would he when he gets to train with footballing royalty like Victor Anichebe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Tom Huddlestone isn't good enough either. Would be nowhere near the squad if he played for Fulham or someone like that. Not good enough to play for us at the moment, let alone England. It's definitely a terrible decision not to let someone else have a go in goals for a nothing friendly. What better chance to get some experience? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Just seen that Zlatan goal, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Tom Huddlestone isn't good enough either. Would be nowhere near the squad if he played for Fulham or someone like that. Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Tom Huddlestone isn't good enough either. Would be nowhere near the squad if he played for Fulham or someone like that. Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth f***ing Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/empics/20120423/21/2920111736-23042012213052.jpg He must have scored about 50 goals since we went down, which is probably more than all the strikers have in that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Tom Huddlestone isn't good enough either. Would be nowhere near the squad if he played for Fulham or someone like that. Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing. Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Tom Huddlestone isn't good enough either. Would be nowhere near the squad if he played for Fulham or someone like that. Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing. Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years. I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Did ITV try and downplay the Zlatan goals? They nearly always refuse to credit him for anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Fucking hell what a goal from Zlatan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Swedish medias wankfest last night over Zlatans 4 goals, except 3 of them came against Jenkinson - Cahill - Shawcross - Baines. I'd score 50 goals against them too ffs. And Zlatans goal against France in the Euros was better, he does have a knack for scoring nice goals though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Tom Huddlestone isn't good enough either. Would be nowhere near the squad if he played for Fulham or someone like that. Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing. Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years. I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps? No I don't, because Gerrard and Lampard are good players. Cleverley is only in the squad because he's a Manchester United squad member. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Tom Huddlestone isn't good enough either. Would be nowhere near the squad if he played for Fulham or someone like that. Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing. Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years. I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps? No I don't, because Gerrard and Lampard are good players. Cleverley is only in the squad because he's a Manchester United squad member. He's in the squad because he's quality. In my eyes there's not a lot between him and Osman, except Cleverley is younger, fitter and faster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 On reflection, until Hodgson made all the subs, we looked the better side. For a scratch team, we moved the ball around quite well. It looked promising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 How many out there don't actually think Joe Hart is the great keeper he's made out to be? At (regular) times his decision making is school boy. I actually wince at some of the things he does. He has very good reactions; I'll give him that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 How many out there don't actually think Joe Hart is the great keeper he's made out to be? At (regular) times his decision making is school boy. I actually wince at some of the things he does. He has very good reactions; I'll give him that. When he broke into the City squad he was playing excellent, then the hype train started for both club and country. He thinks he's better than he is now, and his feet are firmly OFF the ground. His cockyness is costing him. He's still a young guy though, especially in goalkeeping terms. He has all the tools to become one of the best keepers around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 He's a good hope for the future but he's still very young and will make mistakes. I also agree he's gone backwards a bit, no longer playing to prove himself now he's assured of starts at man city and for england wonder if it's damaged his hunger for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 He needs to be careful with Richard Wright sneaking up on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Swedish medias wankfest last night over Zlatans 4 goals, except 3 of them came against Jenkinson - Cahill - Shawcross - Baines. I'd score 50 goals against them too ffs. And Zlatans goal against France in the Euros was better, he does have a knack for scoring nice goals though. I can't see much wrong with Swedish media wanking over Zlatans 4 goals against big football country and on the opening game of a new stadium. Zlatan is the boss, hope he now gets some recognition in England too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Swedish medias wankfest last night over Zlatans 4 goals, except 3 of them came against Jenkinson - Cahill - Shawcross - Baines. I'd score 50 goals against them too ffs. And Zlatans goal against France in the Euros was better, he does have a knack for scoring nice goals though. I can't see much wrong with Swedish media wanking over Zlatans 4 goals against big football country and on the opening game of a new stadium. Zlatan is the boss, hope he now gets some recognition in England too. We had Safari-Olsson-Granqvist-Lustig. England should have scored 73 goals on that logic. Special performance last night, nothing wrong in praising him ffs Even by the terrible standards of our sports journalists, there was little room for exaggregation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Swedish medias wankfest last night over Zlatans 4 goals, except 3 of them came against Jenkinson - Cahill - Shawcross - Baines. I'd score 50 goals against them too ffs. And Zlatans goal against France in the Euros was better, he does have a knack for scoring nice goals though. I can't see much wrong with Swedish media wanking over Zlatans 4 goals against big football country and on the opening game of a new stadium. Zlatan is the boss, hope he now gets some recognition in England too. We had Safari-Olsson-Granqvist-Lustig. England should have scored 73 goals on that logic. Special performance last night, nothing wrong in praising him ffs Even by the terrible standards of our sports journalists, there was little room for exaggregation. The media wankfest over him here is usually extremely tedious and well exaggerated, but considering the goals he scored yesterday, you can't blame them at all on this occasion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Tom Huddlestone isn't good enough either. Would be nowhere near the squad if he played for Fulham or someone like that. Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing. Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years. I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps? No I don't, because Gerrard and Lampard are good players. Cleverley is only in the squad because he's a Manchester United squad member. He's in the squad because he's quality. In my eyes there's not a lot between him and Osman, except Cleverley is younger, fitter and faster. Your eyes are covered by red lensed spectacles then. Osman is a far superior player to Cleverly and should have been in the squad way before now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Tom Huddlestone isn't good enough either. Would be nowhere near the squad if he played for Fulham or someone like that. Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing. Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years. I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps? No I don't, because Gerrard and Lampard are good players. Cleverley is only in the squad because he's a Manchester United squad member. He's in the squad because he's quality. In my eyes there's not a lot between him and Osman, except Cleverley is younger, fitter and faster. Your eyes are covered by red lensed spectacles then. Osman is a far superior player to Cleverly and should have been in the squad way before now. Or I just know my team extremely well. Cleverley is a stand out performer for us, and we're top of the Premier League. Also, I'm not sure if you're actually watching England or not, but Cleverley has been the best player on the pitch for England in most of the games he's played. He also just turned 23. For what it's worth too, I rate Osman pretty highly. I was delighted he received a call up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Cleverley isn't quality at all iyam. He's a good midfielder with above average technique which is why he gets praised from all angles. Hopefully Wilshere is the same player that he was pre-injury, as he's a far better prospect than Cleverley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Cleverley isn't quality at all iyam. He's a good midfielder with above average technique which is why he gets praised from all angles. Hopefully Wilshere is the same player that he was pre-injury, as he's a far better prospect than Cleverley. 100% agree with you on Wilshere, he's an incredible propesct. Cleverley is performing extremely well for both club and country though, and like you said, he has above average technique. He also has very good vision and a decent eye for goal plus his workrate is second to none. Can't understand how that isn't quality, but each to their own. I've always thought if Wilshere and Cleverley both fulfill their potential, England will have an incredible central midfield pairing, and possibly one that can play together, unlike Gerrard and Lampard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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