Tooj Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Cleverly is a very good player like. He's got good feet, technique, isn't slow, has a pass on him and has good stamina. He's not great and never will be but he's a decent player, like Osman. Pretty much this. He's just nowhere near the player he has been hyped to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 That's what happened. If Swindon were the team in red that's who it would be. All this trials and tribulations stuff too. It's not my fault that they're successful. You're basically saying you won't accept any Manchester United fans who aren't from Manchester unless they've went through bad times, i.e. relegation. Or do you hold this stance with Newcastle supporters who aren't from Newcastle as well, because if you don't, your argument is invalid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I remember when I started supporting Newcastle (around 95/96, I didn't get into football until I was about 11/12) a few of my mates called me a glory supporter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I find the glory hunter thing hard to get my head around. I mean, I'm from Gateshead but I support my nearest Premier League club because my Dad took me - Newcastle. Obviously Ireland is a lot further away from Manchester than that, but you get the idea. We ridicule glory hunters but we also ridicule clubs who have less fans than others. The only way to improve your crowds is basically to attract people who come because you're successful. I think we just need to accept that their are many different types of football fan. I kind of dislike glory hunters too, but to be honest I think it's more to do with jealousy. Why should they choose a successful club and enjoy it when we have to suffer years and years without trophies? I think that's the real root of a lot of these feelings. The only people I really have a problem with are those who act smug and superior while also knowing very little and not caring very much. People who just support a successful club I don't really mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I think the Irish should be given the benefit of the doubt. What choice do they have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Cleverly is a very good player like. He's got good feet, technique, isn't slow, has a pass on him and has good stamina. He's not great and never will be but he's a decent player, like Osman. Pretty much this. He's just nowhere near the player he has been hyped to be. Precisely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 People call me a glory hunter too probably because everyone else here supports shitty Scottish clubs. Just to make clear - born in England (f***ing Bristol) and live in Scotland so no real affinity to anywhere. Picked up Newcastle from my brother in the 'glory days' I guess. I was young and impressionable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I don't want any hard feelings on Scholesys birthday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I kind of dislike glory hunters too, but to be honest I think it's more to do with jealousy. Why should they choose a successful club and enjoy it when we have to suffer years and years without trophies? I think that's the real root of a lot of these feelings. The only people I really have a problem with are those who act smug and superior while also knowing very little and not caring very much. People who just support a successful club I don't really mind. That's the one for me. Personally haven't got a problem with anybody that supports a successful team, not in the slightest. It's just the people that try and take the piss out of fans of less successful clubs that I really cannot stand. You find them all over the internet on various message boards. I really don't get that attitude whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 That's what happened. If Swindon were the team in red that's who it would be. All this trials and tribulations stuff too. It's not my fault that they're successful. You're basically saying you won't accept any Manchester United fans who aren't from Manchester unless they've went through bad times, i.e. relegation. Or do you hold this stance with Newcastle supporters who aren't from Newcastle as well, because if you don't, your argument is invalid. I'm second generation Geordie myself so of course I accept non Newcastle living supporters. But had we won countless trophies in the past 30 years, following Newcastle without any connection to Newcastle would have been glory hunting. But it is a hypothetical point. You're the one living the dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I kind of dislike glory hunters too, but to be honest I think it's more to do with jealousy. Why should they choose a successful club and enjoy it when we have to suffer years and years without trophies? I think that's the real root of a lot of these feelings. The only people I really have a problem with are those who act smug and superior while also knowing very little and not caring very much. People who just support a successful club I don't really mind. That's the one for me. Personally haven't got a problem with anybody that supports a successful team, not in the slightest. It's just the people that try and take the piss out of fans of less successful clubs that I really cannot stand. You find them all over the internet on various message boards. I really don't get that attitude whatsoever. And coincidentally describes 99.9 recurring if every Man Utd fan I've ever met. Yep even when they were shit in the 80s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 You need some pain to give you humility though. I mean, if we had been dominating the league for my entire lifetime I might take the piss out of other clubs as well. Same as relegation - I never gloat over relegated teams because I know how horrible it feels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I've only taken the piss out of Liverpool, which is fully acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brazilianbob Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Great 4th goal from zlatan but I felt he was just trying to put the ball into the danger area inside the penalty area while hart was out of position. He obviously tried to get it as close to the gpal as possible but at the time he probably intended the bicycle kick as a cross rather than a direct shot on goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Great 4th goal from zlatan but I felt he was just trying to put the ball into the danger area inside the penalty area while hart was out of position. He obviously tried to get it as close to the gpal as possible but at the time he probably intended the bicycle kick as a cross rather than a direct shot on goal. Say what you want about how good the goal was/wasn't, but there's no way he wasn't trying to score. The nearest Sweden player to him had just crossed the halfway line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Great 4th goal from zlatan but I felt he was just trying to put the ball into the danger area inside the penalty area while hart was out of position. He obviously tried to get it as close to the gpal as possible but at the time he probably intended the bicycle kick as a cross rather than a direct shot on goal. Say what you want about how good the goal was/wasn't, but there's no way he wasn't trying to score. The nearest Sweden player to him had just crossed the halfway line Also, he's Zlatan Ibrahimovic, of course he was trying to score! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Great 4th goal from zlatan but I felt he was just trying to put the ball into the danger area inside the penalty area while hart was out of position. He obviously tried to get it as close to the gpal as possible but at the time he probably intended the bicycle kick as a cross rather than a direct shot on goal. Of course he went for goal man, everybody here would try to do the exact same thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I kind of dislike glory hunters too, but to be honest I think it's more to do with jealousy. Why should they choose a successful club and enjoy it when we have to suffer years and years without trophies? I think that's the real root of a lot of these feelings. The only people I really have a problem with are those who act smug and superior while also knowing very little and not caring very much. People who just support a successful club I don't really mind. That's the one for me. Personally haven't got a problem with anybody that supports a successful team, not in the slightest. It's just the people that try and take the piss out of fans of less successful clubs that I really cannot stand. You find them all over the internet on various message boards. I really don't get that attitude whatsoever. This. It's not on to just ridicule people on a personal level for supporting a successful team like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Great 4th goal from zlatan but I felt he was just trying to put the ball into the danger area inside the penalty area while hart was out of position. He obviously tried to get it as close to the gpal as possible but at the time he probably intended the bicycle kick as a cross rather than a direct shot on goal. It was quite clearly a back pass went wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I don't want any hard feelings on Scholesys birthday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 My local team just won the swedish league over here, but i don't go to many games, neither do i care very much. Dunno why i love Newcastle so much, guess i've grown into it since i started supporting the club in 93/94 and have been following the club very closely ever since without a break from it, weird somehow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 My local team just won the swedish league over here, but i don't go to many games, neither do i care very much. Dunno why i love Newcastle so much, guess i've grown into it since i started supporting the club in 93/94 and have been following the club very closely ever since without a break from it, weird somehow. Some good stories in here. http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,63511.msg1906496.html#msg1906496 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 My local team just won the swedish league over here, but i don't go to many games, neither do i care very much. Dunno why i love Newcastle so much, guess i've grown into it since i started supporting the club in 93/94 and have been following the club very closely ever since without a break from it, weird somehow. Some good stories in here. http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,63511.msg1906496.html#msg1906496 Cheers mate, will have a read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I think Ibrahimovic's own for Ajax was better. The one where he merked about 5 people? If so I concur. :anguish: Take your 'Ferdy' language elsewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Despite the defeat, I think the nucleus of a class side is emerging. Welbeck, Rooney, Wilshere, Gerrard, Oxlade-C are the top performers, but there's some other decent young talent emerging as well. We need to sort out the defence though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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