Pilko Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Just a shame there isn't a couple more young ones getting tournament experience ahead of some of the old/shit guard. That's my major grievance about the squad, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I honestly believe England will do very well this time. Probably reaching the final. Done the maths today and the way to the final could be doable depending on how some other teams do. Quite the shocking conclusion. Knew that that was coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Just seen the squad. Why the fuck is John Terry, Stewart Downing and Andy Carroll in there? (Plus why the fuck is Jordan Henderson on standby?!). Yep, England are screwed this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Just seen the squad. Why the f*** is John Terry, Stewart Downing and Andy Carroll in there? (Plus why the f*** is Jordan Henderson on standby?!). Yep, England are screwed this summer. Terry is still arguably our best CB and Carroll is our best target man. Mystery solved? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 If we win more than 1 game in this tournament I would be very suprised. Absolutely no chance of us reaching the final like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 When Roy announces that Ruddy is in, don't assume hes gone mental and chosen the cowboy from Toy Story. I thought it deserved a repost Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Why is Butland the reserve goalkeeper? Surely we have someone more experienced - why doesn't Forster get a look in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 just seen the squad. my god. can't believe the best english midfielder by a mile this season, Carrick, didn't make it. the guy was basically Man Utd's player of the season if you look at who their fans have voted for. a class above Barry, and while Parker has his uses as a pure destroyer, he is pathetically limited on the ball. the midfield is just cringe-worthy - and i'm disappointed Scholes isn't there - i would've thought appointing Neville could've been used to guarantee his presence. what the fuck that charlatan James Milner is doing in there is beyond me. And Henderson. Jordan Henderson, on the reserve list. a sick joke. Not sure why Phil Jones is in there, he's looked lost recently and while he's talented he doesn't have a set position on the field. He hasn't played centre-half all season and as a RB Richards is far, far better (and can probably cover CB more competantly as Jones is too rash and raw). Seems to have come along for verstality which i can understand, just think Richards is a better candidate. So that leaves just 3 centre-halves - Terry, who has been a fucking joke in some recent matches and simply cannot defend a high line to save his life, along with Cahill and Lescott who should probably be the starting duo. I'd have taken Ferdinand ahead of Terry after what the latter did to disrupt the camp at the last world camp. and sewelly's goals and assists charts shows that Adam Johnson should be in there ahead of Downing - who would easily make a Premiership Worst XI for this season. You have to build a squad with balance -that means some players pencilled to start games, and others that you bring along as impact players who can come on, add something different and change a game. and that's a role Johnson has performed all season, a super sub, and has shown he can deliver end product doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I dont think AC is bad choice as long as we have proper crossers.....cant see any those on RHS of team. Cant recall if oxyC can cross. Prefer AC to crouch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Why is Butland the reserve goalkeeper? Surely we have someone more experienced - why doesn't Forster get a look in? He's retired from International football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Why is Butland the reserve goalkeeper? Surely we have someone more experienced - why doesn't Forster get a look in? He's retired from International football. I'm guessing Fraser, not Ben. And that's Foster, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Makes you wonder like, how badly is Fraser Forster thought of if he's behind Jack Butland in the pecking order, who as far as I know isn't even Birmingham's first choice. At least Forster has played consistently for Celtic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Who the fuck is Jack Butland?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 just seen the squad. my god. can't believe the best english midfielder by a mile this season, Carrick, didn't make it. the guy was basically Man Utd's player of the season if you look at who their fans have voted for. a class above Barry, and while Parker has his uses as a pure destroyer, he is pathetically limited on the ball. the midfield is just cringe-worthy - and i'm disappointed Scholes isn't there - i would've thought appointing Neville could've been used to guarantee his presence. what the fuck that charlatan James Milner is doing in there is beyond me. And Henderson. Jordan Henderson, on the reserve list. a sick joke. Not sure why Phil Jones is in there, he's looked lost recently and while he's talented he doesn't have a set position on the field. He hasn't played centre-half all season and as a RB Richards is far, far better (and can probably cover CB more competantly as Jones is too rash and raw). Seems to have come along for verstality which i can understand, just think Richards is a better candidate. So that leaves just 3 centre-halves - Terry, who has been a fucking joke in some recent matches and simply cannot defend a high line to save his life, along with Cahill and Lescott who should probably be the starting duo. I'd have taken Ferdinand ahead of Terry after what the latter did to disrupt the camp at the last world camp. and sewelly's goals and assists charts shows that Adam Johnson should be in there ahead of Downing - who would easily make a Premiership Worst XI for this season. You have to build a squad with balance -that means some players pencilled to start games, and others that you bring along as impact players who can come on, add something different and change a game. and that's a role Johnson has performed all season, a super sub, and has shown he can deliver end product doing that. Agree with all of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Makes you wonder like, how badly is Fraser Forster thought of if he's behind Jack Butland in the pecking order, who as far as I know isn't even Birmingham's first choice. At least Forster has played consistently for Celtic. Must have come highly rated from Pearce as he has 6 u21 caps. Obviously Hodgson doesn't think much of Stockdale which makes his past England call ups even more incredulous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Who the fuck is Jack Butland?! Birmingham keeper who played on loan at Cheltenham Town this season who are in League 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Makes you wonder like, how badly is Fraser Forster thought of if he's behind Jack Butland in the pecking order, who as far as I know isn't even Birmingham's first choice. At least Forster has played consistently for Celtic. Must have come highly rated from Pearce as he has 6 u21 caps. Obviously Hodgson doesn't think much of Stockdale which makes his past England call ups even more incredulous. Unless Stockdale is going to the Olympic keeper? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Makes you wonder like, how badly is Fraser Forster thought of if he's behind Jack Butland in the pecking order, who as far as I know isn't even Birmingham's first choice. At least Forster has played consistently for Celtic. Must have come highly rated from Pearce as he has 6 u21 caps. Obviously Hodgson doesn't think much of Stockdale which makes his past England call ups even more incredulous. Unless Stockdale is going to the Olympic keeper? He's 26 though, so would have to be an overrage option if he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Makes you wonder like, how badly is Fraser Forster thought of if he's behind Jack Butland in the pecking order, who as far as I know isn't even Birmingham's first choice. At least Forster has played consistently for Celtic. Must have come highly rated from Pearce as he has 6 u21 caps. Obviously Hodgson doesn't think much of Stockdale which makes his past England call ups even more incredulous. Unless Stockdale is going to the Olympic keeper? He's 26 though, so would have to be an overrage option if he was. Fuck, had no idea he was that old. Probably not that then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I'm not sure if I can disagree too much with what is available to pick. Richards is a strange one. And I think Carrick has been canny the tail end of the season. Downing is the biggest shocker to me, I think Adam Johnson and Lennon would have been better options that him, maybe Hodgson is concerned by the lack of games from Johnson and Lennon? I think he may have dropped a bollock with Carrick. A midfield 3 of Parker, Carrick and Gerrard looks ok, lacks pace, but there are no pacey options these days. I suppose when we've played a midfield 3 this season (Newcastle that is) we've lacked a bit of pace but the movement and technical ability of the players has seen us through. I assume Barry will join Parker and Gerrard in CM, on their day they are good players, just wonder if Gerrard can get anywhere near his top level, that's the only hope England have until Rooney is available again. A lot of reliance will be on Young and Walcott on the wings neither have done it on a International stage as of yet?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I'm not sure if I can disagree too much with what is available to pick. Richards is a strange one. And I think Carrick has been canny the tail end of the season. Downing is the biggest shocker to me, I think Adam Johnson and Lennon would have been better options that him, maybe Hodgson is concerned by the lack of games from Johnson and Lennon? I think he may have dropped a bollock with Carrick. A midfield 3 of Parker, Carrick and Gerrard looks ok, lacks pace, but there are no pacey options these days. I suppose when we've played a midfield 3 this season (Newcastle that is) we've lacked a bit of pace but the movement and technical ability of the players has seen us through. I assume Barry will join Parker and Gerrard in CM, on their day they are good players, just wonder if Gerrard can get anywhere near his top level, that's the only hope England have until Rooney is available again. A lot of reliance will be on Young and Walcott on the wings neither have done it on a International stage as of yet?? He's picked Milner. There are a few similar contradictions within the selection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andrew Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Just seen the squad. Why the f*** is John Terry, Stewart Downing and Andy Carroll in there? (Plus why the f*** is Jordan Henderson on standby?!). Yep, England are screwed this summer. Terry is still arguably our best CB and Carroll is our best target man. Mystery solved? yep. and carrolls been looking great of late. just downing as the shit inclusion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Makes you wonder like, how badly is Fraser Forster thought of if he's behind Jack Butland in the pecking order, who as far as I know isn't even Birmingham's first choice. At least Forster has played consistently for Celtic. Must have come highly rated from Pearce as he has 6 u21 caps. Obviously Hodgson doesn't think much of Stockdale which makes his past England call ups even more incredulous. Unless Stockdale is going to the Olympic keeper? He's 26 though, so would have to be an overrage option if he was. Fuck, had no idea he was that old. Probably not that then. Aye. Keeper options are rubbish though so they might use an overrage slot on one. Allan McGregor maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Carroll makes sense, he's actually looked in form recently. The type of selection people have been crying out for instead of the usual Heskey/Crouch/Carlton Cole/Zamora rubbish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Seen people complaining about Defoe who has 17 goals and 8 assists (all competitions) this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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