Jack Flash Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 but will get beat by a better team - of which there are many in this tournament. Very debatable on the last point. Most other teams considered better have under performed so far while England have done better than we expected. Personally I think we've done exactly as expected, I think a few opinions of how "bad" we are have been exaggerated. We're not an awful team, good enough to beat teams like Sweden - through making it hard for ourselves, mind. I personally think we'll struggle against the likes of Croatia or Russia if we come to meet them, let alone Germany or Spain, who we could very possibly play in the next round if we make it. Germany and Spain are the 2 who would be the big favourites when they play any other team in the tournament but other than that I think it's very close. England could lose to most teams here and I think they could beat most teams too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I wish we had scored one of the couple of late chances we had. This group could go down to goal difference and it would be nice to miss Spain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If they can iron out the fundamental problem they have with keeping a lead, England can potentially stifle teams all the way to the semis, especially if Rooney's up for it. I think they'll beat Ukraine, finishing top of the group and meeting Croatia in the quarters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I'd rather have Italy. Spain second choice. Just not the Croats. So bored of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If they can iron out the fundamental problem they have with keeping a lead, England can potentially stifle teams all the way to the semis, especially if Rooney's up for it. I think they'll beat Ukraine, finishing top of the group and meeting Croatia in the quarters. Even if we beat Ukraine we wont finish the top of the group unless France f*ck things up royally... So Spain it is. No way in hell we are stifling Spain, even Italy who is going to lock down Pirlo & Cassano from combining? it's very very unlikely imo we would have to get ridiculously lucky even the Croat's we would struggle to get past IMO. Ok we scraped past a very poor Sweden side or apart from Ibra is full of very poor players ( some of which ply their trade at the bottom of the Premier League or Championship) but lets not go nuts we are still very poor and haven't really shown anything that would suggest we could oust Spain, Italy or even Croatia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18471301 Larsson definite dickhead Mackem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Sunderland midfielder Larsson agreed: "We were definitely better." He should have said 'Dominated'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 The old less goals/possession/shots/chances = "definitely better" argument. They'll be saying they were classier too soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I wouldn't even be giving interviews if my country and team were likely to be going home in 4 days time with 0 points like. Atleast Ireland have the excuse of being involved with one of Groups of Death. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If they can iron out the fundamental problem they have with keeping a lead, England can potentially stifle teams all the way to the semis, especially if Rooney's up for it. I think they'll beat Ukraine, finishing top of the group and meeting Croatia in the quarters. Even if we beat Ukraine we wont finish the top of the group unless France f*ck things up royally... So Spain it is. No way in hell we are stifling Spain, even Italy who is going to lock down Pirlo & Cassano from combining? it's very very unlikely imo we would have to get ridiculously lucky even the Croat's we would struggle to get past IMO. Ok we scraped past a very poor Sweden side or apart from Ibra is full of very poor players ( some of which ply their trade at the bottom of the Premier League or Championship) but lets not go nuts we are still very poor and haven't really shown anything that would suggest we could oust Spain, Italy or even Croatia. Pirlo and Cassano. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If they can iron out the fundamental problem they have with keeping a lead, England can potentially stifle teams all the way to the semis, especially if Rooney's up for it. I think they'll beat Ukraine, finishing top of the group and meeting Croatia in the quarters. Even if we beat Ukraine we wont finish the top of the group unless France f*ck things up royally... So Spain it is. No way in hell we are stifling Spain, even Italy who is going to lock down Pirlo & Cassano from combining? it's very very unlikely imo we would have to get ridiculously lucky even the Croat's we would struggle to get past IMO. Ok we scraped past a very poor Sweden side or apart from Ibra is full of very poor players ( some of which ply their trade at the bottom of the Premier League or Championship) but lets not go nuts we are still very poor and haven't really shown anything that would suggest we could oust Spain, Italy or even Croatia. Shame we didn't bury that late chance last night. However i'm still not overly impressed with France and i don't think it's a foregone conclusion that they'll top the group. A fired-up Rooney could help us a lot. If France win 1-0 and England win by 2, that'll see us top. Not beyond the realms of possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If they can iron out the fundamental problem they have with keeping a lead, England can potentially stifle teams all the way to the semis, especially if Rooney's up for it. I think they'll beat Ukraine, finishing top of the group and meeting Croatia in the quarters. Even if we beat Ukraine we wont finish the top of the group unless France f*ck things up royally... So Spain it is. No way in hell we are stifling Spain, even Italy who is going to lock down Pirlo & Cassano from combining? it's very very unlikely imo we would have to get ridiculously lucky even the Croat's we would struggle to get past IMO. Ok we scraped past a very poor Sweden side or apart from Ibra is full of very poor players ( some of which ply their trade at the bottom of the Premier League or Championship) but lets not go nuts we are still very poor and haven't really shown anything that would suggest we could oust Spain, Italy or even Croatia. Pirlo and Cassano. What's funny about that lol? that's where all thier attacks come from.... i dont think we have anyone that could shutdown Pirlo and thats key IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Pirlo's at leat 5 years past his best and Cassano has less than half as many international goals as Peter Crouch. There's very, very little to fear in that Italian side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Pirlo's at leat 5 years past his best and Cassano has less than half as many international goals as Peter Crouch. There's very, very little to fear in that Italian side. I'd be more concerned of Cassano's creative talent than his goalscoring tbh..... and Pirlo 5 years past his best? take it you didnt watch Juventus this season then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 We've already stifled Spain this season man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Sweden were only good for like fifteen minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Did Larsson play yesterday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Sweden were only good for like fifteen minutes. Fifteen more minutes than Newcastle were good for yesterday FTM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Pirlo's at leat 5 years past his best and Cassano has less than half as many international goals as Peter Crouch. There's very, very little to fear in that Italian side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Agreed. You need your best player playing, simple as that. Absolutely, Rooney has to play. It's just unfortunate that the guy who makes way will undoubtedly be either Welbeck or Carroll. Both of whom are in much better form than Milner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Carroll should and probably will make way. He's always a good alternative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Pirlo's at leat 5 years past his best and Cassano has less than half as many international goals as Peter Crouch. There's very, very little to fear in that Italian side. Pirlo is infinitely better than any of our midfielders, the man's class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Ronaldo You should work for the BBC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neil Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Pace, movement, desire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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