Wullie Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 At least we won't have the inevitable dozen posts per page about using Pro Evo names. I don't think Peterborough are on this year's version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I would just like to point out that Dave, last year deleted my completely fixtious fixture list prior to the publishing of the official fixture list. I'm still bitter at the overly officious twat tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I'm not certain it's NUFC.COM at all. Unless they acquired that status under Ashleys tenure because I think they were having a run in with the Club not too many years ago. Didn't Shepherd promise to have them 'shut down within the month' mainly because they had the .com name. Or did I just imagine that? The bottom line of all .com fixtures: Reproduced under licence from Football DataCo Limited. All rights reserved. Licence number NEWMEDIA/NUFCCOM/166225a. Copyright © and Database Right The FA Premier League Ltd 2008. All rights reserved. No part of the Fixtures Lists may be reproduced stored or transmitted in any form without the prior written permission of Football DataCo Limited. So yeah, they've got it. It says nothing in there about them being the preferred fanzine. It looks more like they stumped up the wedge to reproduce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I'm not certain it's NUFC.COM at all. Unless they acquired that status under Ashleys tenure because I think they were having a run in with the Club not too many years ago. Didn't Shepherd promise to have them 'shut down within the month' mainly because they had the .com name. Or did I just imagine that? The bottom line of all .com fixtures: Reproduced under licence from Football DataCo Limited. All rights reserved. Licence number NEWMEDIA/NUFCCOM/166225a. Copyright © and Database Right The FA Premier League Ltd 2008. All rights reserved. No part of the Fixtures Lists may be reproduced stored or transmitted in any form without the prior written permission of Football DataCo Limited. So yeah, they've got it. It says nothing in there about them being the preferred fanzine. It looks more like they stumped up the wedge to reproduce. I agree, it wouldnt suprise me if the nominated 'fanzine' was some official club magazine like that 'Black and White' one a few years back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 http://phoenix.fanster.com/suns/files/2009/03/groundhogday.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Dynamite Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Quite a though start we have starting at West Brom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I'm genuinely excited about these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 .COM used to have the fee paid by Ginsters a few years ago when the fuss kicked off - I'd assume they now take it out their general ad income. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Bump... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 We're away at Wigan on boxing day. We're not, but we're away. Again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17218968 Football authorities in England and Scotland have lost a court case over copyright in match fixture lists. European Court judges in Luxembourg said compiling match fixture lists needed "significant" work and skill, but did not entail the creativity required for copyright protection. Yahoo, bookmaker Stan James and sports information firm Enetpulse had been accused of breaching EU copyright laws. The case was brought on behalf of the football leagues by Football Dataco. Gambling firms It is the firm responsible for protecting the rights acquired in English and Scottish football league fixtures, and said the trio of firms had breached copyright by failing to pay for the use of the match schedules. Football Dataco grants licences to third parties allowing them - for a fee - to reproduce the Premier League, the Football League, Scottish Premier League and Scottish Football League fixtures. News and media services, as well as gambling firms, fantasy football operators and other commercial outlets, use the information to produce fixture information for fans and allow gamblers to bet on events. The case had originated in the English courts, before being sent to the European Court of Justice for clarification of certain points of database law. High Court "A football fixture list cannot be protected by copyright when its compilation is dictated by rules or constraints which leave no room for creative freedom," said the European judges. The case was referred to the European court by the High Court in London, which must now "assess, in the light of the considerations set out by the [Luxembourg] court, whether the football fixture lists concerned are databases which satisfy the conditions of eligibility for copyright protection". But the European judges added: "However, the court adds that unless the procedures for creating the lists concerned as described by the national court are supplemented by elements reflecting originality in the selection or arrangement of the data contained in those lists, they do not suffice for those lists to be protected by the copyright laid down in the directive." TV listings One copyright expert said the European ruling seemed to leave the High Court with little room for manoeuvre now. "The ECJ has left pretty much no scope for the English court to do anything except say, 'There is no copyright in the fixture list'," said Mark Daniels, an expert in copyright, patents, and trademarks at law firm Browne Jacobson. And he said that if that were the case, then in future, anyone would be able to use the football fixtures lists, as long as they did not try to imply that they were representing the football leagues. Mr Daniels also said the case could have a potential future impact on other areas in the sales and licensing of "fixture lists", such as with television listings. "This has a much wider impact for those people who create data, such as those who create TV schedules," he said. "There must now be questions about whether any copyright could exist in a TV listing." Another legal expert, Tom Usher, of SJ Berwin law firm, said the financial implications of the decision could be huge. "Since a 1959 UK decision that such lists were protected, the UK professional football leagues, most recently acting through Football Dataco, have obtained many millions of pounds from betting operators and newspapers for the use of the lists," he said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 POST THEM ALL. BACKDATED 1999. GO GO GO GO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 i dont think i'll be able to. just wouldnt feel right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Times-a-changing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I'd feel pretty pissed off if I spend all that money on being allowed to publish them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 POST THEM ALL. BACKDATED 1999. GO GO GO GO I'm assuming it goes without saying that we're still not to risk it until this ruling is final? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 POST THEM ALL. BACKDATED 1999. GO GO GO GO I'm assuming it goes without saying that we're still not to risk it until this ruling is final? There's a 5 Alarm Warning going off in Dave's Terminal right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 POST THEM ALL. BACKDATED 1999. GO GO GO GO I'm assuming it goes without saying that we're still not to risk it until this ruling is final? There's a 5 Alarm Warning going off in Dave's Terminal right now. I'm sure Football DataCo isn't going to lgo out of business quietly and will still send out bogus takedown/threatening legal letters that most ISP's will just comply with rather than fight even though they're wrong. The answer is move the servers / domain to a country that gives no fucks about copyright. I'd help fund it, just saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Bout time someone with common sense made a declaration about this. The whole idea was ridiculous from day one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 POST THEM ALL. BACKDATED 1999. GO GO GO GO Results aren't copyrighted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosstef Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I've always thought it was a stupid rule. Fixtures are copyrighted but not the results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest je85 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Excellent, it's ludicrous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 POST THEM ALL. BACKDATED 1999. GO GO GO GO Results aren't copyrighted. So I posted the fixture from years gone by, but didn't include the result, would that have been a 3 Alarm Warning in Dave's terminal or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Yeah, still a ban if you post them on this board btw. For ze time being anyvay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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