Pilko Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Not enough pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Not enough pace. To be fair though, looking at the Birmingham team that went up, they were hardly brimming with it. The likes of Carr, Carsley, Phillips, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 On Football Manager probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 They don't give enough of a shit. With Owen doing fuck all and getting a big move, there is no reason for them to bust their asses. You'll see occasional flashes of motivation, but none after August and until late December. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 On paper, yes, this squad can easily achieve promotion. But, as we've found out the hard way in recent years you cant win games with a team sheet. Basically all of that squad is the same gutless, greedy, cowardly and half arsed group of players that got us relegated last season. Shearer came in and tried to motivate them to beat the drop....but that wasn't enough for them. So I cant see Al or any manager being able to whip them in to shape, mentally, to push for promotion. We need to completely overhaul the squad, keeping a select few players like S.Taylor, Bassong, Guthrie, Beye and Carroll, and surround them with a mix of youth and experience blended with hunger and ability. Before the start of the season I can see us selling off: Martins, Jonas, Coloccini, Bassong, Enrique, Barton and maybe even Beye. Most of our expensive (and best) assests. Subtracting the keepers, we have a very small group of pllayers who have got a taste of 1st team experience. I have a feeling we could be worryingly thin come August 8th... Easier said than done, and, at this moment in time, I cant see anything getting done at this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I believe it would with proper management, yes. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 On paper - aye; be in with a real chance. In reality - not a chance. For the same reason they went down. No heart, no battle, no balls whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 The no heart stuff doesn't even matter in my opinion. When properly managed this squad defintely has the talent to secure comfortable promotion from the Championship. Alot of that "no heart" rubbish is a product constant poor management/managerial chaos/chaos in general. Most players will only run hard for people they respect and trust. It is the same in all fields of work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 With a good manager we could piss this league. We don't need to spend millions to get back up - just keep the majority of the current squad together and appoint a bloke who knows the game and can motivate them. The midfield still needs an overhaul but we could bounce straight back up no problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Yes, look at a lot of the sides that have easily won the Championship, improved during the summer, and then been whipped week in week out in the Premiership. The league is worse then shit, I think people seem not to realise that simply because sometimes lower league teams raise their game in the cup. Over the course of a season the best in the Championship will usually be embarrassed in the Premiership. Don't know why pace keeps getting mentioned. I don't see many Championship teams full of pace, well none that I know of actually. In fact overall the likes of Duff would look fast against Championship teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 djmattis is right. 2/3 additions to our midfield are essential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I'm still one of us who believes that Big Al will be good, but not quite yet, and would prefer someone like Gerard Houllier, but I'm afraid Ashley has dragged us through the mud so much Houllier wouldn't recognize us as the potential giant we were anyway ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 With a good manager we could piss this league. We don't need to spend millions to get back up - just keep the majority of the current squad together and appoint a bloke who knows the game and can motivate them. The midfield still needs an overhaul but we could bounce straight back up no problem. Been saying this for a while now, teams like Stoke and WBA got promoted out of this cesspit of a division last year, and at this level even our lack of pace won't hurt us. Any decent manager should be able to get us promoted, I suppose that is the only hope that we still have if there is a take over. We might not be able to buy anybody but we won't lose many either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 With West Brom and Boro being so bad and losing some of their big players, i'd sas yes, providing Butt and Nolan are kept away from the midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Coventry took Keegan's Newcastle team to extra time in the league cup way back in August of last year when we were still dreaming of Europe. Our goal scorers were N'Zogbia, Milner and Owen. Coventry City finished 17th in the league. Is the Championship really as bad as some people here are making out? Because the suggestion that our players are any better than the league finish they earned last season is laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Coventry took Keegan's Newcastle team to extra time in the league cup way back in August of last year when we were still dreaming of Europe. Our goal scorers were N'Zogbia, Milner and Owen. Coventry City finished 17th in the league. Is the Championship really as bad as some people here are making out? Because the suggestion that our players are any better than the league finish they earned last season is laughable. Tbf we absolutely battered Coventry that day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Coventry took Keegan's Newcastle team to extra time in the league cup way back in August of last year when we were still dreaming of Europe. Our goal scorers were N'Zogbia, Milner and Owen. Coventry City finished 17th in the league. Is the Championship really as bad as some people here are making out? Because the suggestion that our players are any better than the league finish they earned last season is laughable. Tbf we absolutely battered Coventry that day. and they still looked like scoring on the counter. But it was a cup game and they would have been up for beating a premiership time to get a good start to the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Coventry only really gave us problems in the air. This might just be the theme of next season given our lack of height in midfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Heres my view, ive just poetd it in the relegationometer,....fill your boots. 'without big changes, its not good. i think some of these stale, aged, de motivated,pampered,lazy, overpaid, big time charlies will not know whats hit them in the championship, when they come up against..up and coming young fresh players and managers trying to prove themselves, well motivated. They wont get the protection from the refs they are used too in the prem, they wont like the frantic nature, and the hard hitting tackles, they will cry off injured. Our current players are too namby pamby for the championship' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 As long as we have the same crap midfield who creates no pressure what so ever we will be in the same shitter we are located in. This. Our midfield has some decent Championship players, but the composition is all wrong. I also don't think we have good enough strikers. I expect mid table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 No! Just because we're in a lesser league doesn't negate the desperate need for creativity in the centre of the park, pace on the wings and decent service to the strikers. If we don't sign anyone we'll suffer the same problems we did last year ie. strikers feeding off scraps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 We could with the right management and the necessary changes in the backroom staff. I'm starting to think that this could have been the plan all along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Win it? Debatable. Take us straight back up? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Definitely, but its also the same squad that definitely could have finished comfortably mid table. Without the right management it's nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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