Zero Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Or is that the January offer (and the improved one later offered by the club) are no longer available NOW? In that case may be Barton is right. I mean, even the 2 years extension is no longer available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Or is that the January offer (and the improved one later offered by the club) are no longer available NOW? In that case may be Barton is right. I mean, even the 2 years extension is no longer available? Either way he has said he has been offered contracts and now he says he hasn't. Little room for conjecture there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertCommunicator Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Sounds like he now wants to stay... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Or is that the January offer (and the improved one later offered by the club) are no longer available NOW? In that case may be Barton is right. I mean, even the 2 years extension is no longer available? Either way he has said he has been offered contracts and now he says he hasn't. Little room for conjecture there. Probably he means he has verbally agreed to sign the one that would be offered in June but now found out that the club did not give out the offer eventually? Just trying to make things more logical. Or else it simply doesn't make sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 It's not clear what's happened, but if you turn down a contract, you can't expect to roll up 5 months later and automatically find the offer still there. During the intervening period, Joey's behaviour has been increasingly arrogant and disrespectful. It's like he thought he had some kind of untouchable status. Well he hasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Er, I haven't seen this so-called arrogance or disrespect. We need a few senior players in our squad, younger and cheaper does not mean more committed. I can see him and Nolan giving a lot more to the club, especially in terms of keeping the team morale and spirit going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 When's he been disrespectful? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 The board have outsmarted and out manoeuvred another player, give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves, just like Carroll did. People can bang on about team spirit but when it's channeled through people like Bartn then it's only good for when he's happy, as soon as something goes he doesn't like he'll destroy it. I'd much rather have quality above spirit as well, only so far spirit can take you...see Blackpool and many other teams coming up, playing out of their skins and then dying on their arse at the final hurdle. We will move on quite easily with a proper cm who can hold their own, not get caught in possession and hopefully have a bit of pace while there are half a dozen wingers we could easily sign who'll improve us no end down the right wing, and we'd probably get both for what Barton is on in wages, the only outlay being the fees, and £4m goes someway to paying for at least one of them. If we find an adequate replacement for Joey, then of course, yes, everything you've said is true. However, the term "if we find an adequate replacement for..." has been used numerous times under Ashley's regime, without the results logic would dictate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Don't disagree with Barton's sentiment, but i agree with Cronky regarding the emergence of his self-importance in the media. Foolish for publicly announcing this, as well as a number of his opinions this year. I like him as a player and i've liked his commitment to the cause this (and last) year. But it's like, as soon as he's realised he's playing decent - he's become quite arrogant. The England comments were stupid, the monkey comments were stupid, and creating a Twitter account was an accident waiting to happen. The latest bullshit just shows he's got one of two motives. Either he's trying to wrestle a move away, or he's just plain daft. Obviously, they're never going to offer him a contract after this, but it's difficult to decide which it is. It's turned from a nightmare situation into an non-salvageable one, all thanks to that fucking website. If there was a football dictionary, Twitter would be the latest entry, because it's officially part of the sporting world now. Absolutely detest the thing; has it caused anything but trouble in the footballing/showbiz/celebrity world? From a practical perspective, whilst it would be a blow to the dressing room to lose Joey - i won't be sorry to see the fanfare of controversy exit along with him. Whilst he's had a good year, the negative 'moments' of his stint at this club came with a far greater regularity to his positive contributions. And, for what it's worth, when it comes to him and Nolan - he'd be the easier to replace. I don't even think he's guaranteed a place in the starting line-up next year. A blow to lose him if we don't buy a good winger, but not a loss that would effect us to the same extent as it would if it were say Nolan or Coloccini. I just hope this fiasco doesn't rub off on the other players, and we get a couple of signings through the door ASAP. Seeya Joey, thanks for helping us consolidate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Er, I haven't seen this so-called arrogance or disrespect. We need a few senior players in our squad, younger and cheaper does not mean more committed. I can see him and Nolan giving a lot more to the club, especially in terms of keeping the team morale and spirit going. I would imagine it will be difficult to make the new signings of the calibre of players we are looking at and handing out long term contracts to players already on our books. There'll be a wage budget and to stay within that you have to make choices. Seems to me in January Barton was offered the chance to cement himself here but without a commitment from the player the club have looked elsewhere. His new contract will essentially go towards securing the Gervinhos or Cubayes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 @Joey7Barton Joseph Barton Cabaye = happy days.........keep spending. Teams win trophies not individuals tweeps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 @Joey7Barton Joseph Barton Cabaye = happy days.........keep spending. Teams win trophies not individuals tweeps Meow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I reckon it's the news about Cabaye that prompted his outburst today. That tweet above sounds very jealous to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 could have a point there dave, the tweet regarding younger better and cheaper players didn't exactly make sense since isn't that what any logical club does? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Knows he's on his way out of the club. He's served his purpose as far as Ashley's concerned and will be cut adrift. He had the chance to sign in January and chose not to. The club have obviously chosen to try and replace him. Wonder where he'll end up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 That fucking word "tweeps". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 villa i'd say, apparently houillier is a fan (if he stays as manager that is) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I reckon it's the news about Cabaye that prompted his outburst today. That tweet above sounds very jealous to me. Think you're reading a bit much into it there, like. Just sounds like a half-arsed attempt at covering his back and being 'consistent' re: "we need to spend" comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I think the comments about "younger, cheaper, etc" earlier were more about his agent wanting x dollars for x years and the powers that be wanting to give less money for less years. Don't think he's really too concerned with someone being brought in to "replace" him at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I reckon it's the news about Cabaye that prompted his outburst today. That tweet above sounds very jealous to me. Aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Bye joey one season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 It's interesting to contrast Joey's behaviour with Tiote's. Tiote was attracting interest from a number of other clubs, but he signed up without waiting to see which other players were going to be brought in or how much money would be spent. It also looks like he's been active behind the scenes in encouraging other players to come. He's shown an unselfish commitment to the cause. On the other hand, Joey decided he didn't want to commit himself until he knew what other players were going to come, and then spent the next few months publicly lecturing the owner about what he should be doing in a way that did the image of the club no good at all. It all seemed like a massive ego-trip that wouldnt have impressed his team-mates either. For me, that's disrespect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherealnorthernTOON Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I'm fed up with him. Playing him in the right mid with his kind of pace is a liability in my eyes when we got no carroll to aim early crosses too. Get rid of the money grabber now. So he can whinge about his england spot somewhere else. He's so full of himself I bet he even stores his own farts for special occasions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Barton's going to talk himself out of the club if he's not careful. Or maybe that's the point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I'm fed up with him. Playing him in the right mid with his kind of pace is a liability in my eyes when we got no carroll to aim early crosses too. Get rid of the money grabber now. So he can whinge about his england spot somewhere else. He's so full of himself I bet he even stores his own farts for special occasions. I'd love to store my own farts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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