Hughesy Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 You only have to see the tweets about Cabaye to realise that Barton didn't respect certain players. Becoming clear he doesn't respect anyone really, especially authority, bosses etc, he's the bloke you know who has been sacked countless times after arguments with his bosses but its never his fault. Strange that he didn't seem to have a problem with his bosses before now, though. Aye. It's not like he was kicked out of City or squared up to Shearer in the dressing room is it? Bloke has never had a problem in his career: Dec 2004 - stubbed a lit cigar into the eye of young team-mate Jamie Tandy during Manchester City's Christmas party. Fined six weeks' wages by City. Forced to pay four weeks' salary - approximately £60,000 - immediately, with a further two weeks suspended for a year. Barton says: "If I was to do something similar, I'd be the biggest fool ever." May 2005 - breaks leg of 35 year-old pedestrian while driving his car at 2am in Liverpool city centre. July 2005 - involved in an altercation with a 15-year-old Everton fan at City's team hotel in Bangkok, where the team are playing in the FA Premier League Trophy. Fined eight weeks' wages by City after being found guilty of gross misconduct. Accepts punishment and agrees to undertake a programme of rehabilitation. Says: "When people talk about my dark days, when I sit down and think about it - the misdemeanours I've had, with the things that go on in the real world - the things I have done are stupid and foolish. But they are not war crimes." Sept 2006 - drops his shorts in the direction of Everton fans following City's 1-1 draw at Goodison Park. Charged with improper conduct and/or bringing the game into disrepute by the Football Association and fined £2,000. Says: "The shorts thing was only intended as a light-hearted joke but some people didn't take it that way unfortunately. I don't know whether the fans see me as the Evertonian that got away or what. I was there when I was a youngster and have had a couple of chances to go back and it's never been right." Feb 2007 - wins his first international call-up despite public criticism of the England team's performance at the World Cup and subsequent releases of autobiographies. Says: "England did nothing in the World Cup, so why are they bringing books out? 'We got beat in the quarter-finals, I played like s**t, here's my book'. Who wants to read that? I don't." March 2007 - arrested on suspicion of assault and criminal damage in an incident involving a taxi driver. He is later charged with criminal damage, which he denies. Says: "He (the taxi driver) didn't seem to be in control and seemed to be going really mad. I said 'Let's forget about the money and get out of the cab and get to safety', but he wouldn't stop the cab." May 2007 - suspended by Man City for the rest of the season after a training ground altercation with Ousmane Dabo. He is charged with assault and appears in court but is spared jail. Says: "I am very thankful to the media of this country. If it was not for them vilifying me I may have p****d my career up the wall. " Dec 2007 - arrested in Liverpool city centre in connection with an allegation of assault. He later admits assault and affray and is jailed for six months at Liverpool Crown Court. Says: "My last night out probably cost me £500,000 plus my reputation. I must have been as close as you can get to self destruct. I had two choices basically. Either you carry on doing what you're doing and your career's gone, or you address it." May 2008 - jumps a red light and undertakes dozens of cars in a bus lane driving to meet a probation officer while followed by the press. Says: "Why are they following him? It is a disgrace. What would you do if people followed you in a car? What is the guy meant to do? He doesn't know who is in the car, does he?" July 2008 - receives four-month suspended sentence for assaulting Dabo. Says: "Whether you're the best footballer in the world, or the best golfer or the best cricketer, you're a human being. You might be good at that, but you might be crap at life." July 2008 - released from prison. Says: "My reputation will always precede me to the day I die and for some people that probably can't be quickly enough. I'm not asking for anyone to feel sorry for me. I am indefensible." Sept 2008 - banned by the FA for 12 matches - six of which are suspended - and fined £25,000 after admitting violent conduct charge in relation to the Dabo incident. Says: "When you've been in as much s**t as I've been in, you've got to grow up. You can say, 'Do I really deserve this?' but you do. We live life in the limelight and there's nothing I can do about what's happened now. May 2009 - sent-off against Liverpool for late challenge on Xabi Alonso. Suspended until further notice by Newcastle manager Alan Shearer for the rest of the season following an explosive row between the pair which saw them held apart at Anfield. Says: "I think that was more because of who I was than what I did. The great thing about English football is it is so competitive. I hope that never changes." Nov 2010 - caught on camera punching Morten Gamst Pedersen in the stomach during Newcastle's 2-1 defeat against Blackburn, for which he only received a yellow card. July 2011 - criticises US immigration laws on Twitter after being denied a visa because of his six-month jail sentence for assault and affray in 2008. It means he misses the club's pre-season trip to the United States. Says: "Visa story is correct. They told me am not allowed in until I have 5yrs without any trouble. 3yrs down, 2yrs to go. Totally hypocrisy considering what they get up to but rules are rules." July/August 2011 - Tweets a series of cryptic messages hinting at problems behind the scenes at St James' Park before revealing he will make a more clear cut statement about his future at the club. Says: "If only we as players could tell the fans exactly how it is, without them above fining us lots of money. If it wouldn't effect team morale and cause unrest within the dressing room, am certain Jose's comments would be the tip of the iceberg..... And again it would be left to those magnificent fans to pick up the remnants of their once great football club." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Our new players we signed this summer, especially those from abroad, must be hearing all this and thinking 'WTF have i done...?' Some of them might won't hear it since they are wearing those big headphones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 You only have to see the tweets about Cabaye to realise that Barton didn't respect certain players. Becoming clear he doesn't respect anyone really, especially authority, bosses etc, he's the bloke you know who has been sacked countless times after arguments with his bosses but its never his fault. Strange that he didn't seem to have a problem with his bosses before now, though. Aye. It's not like he was kicked out of City or squared up to Shearer in the dressing room is it? Bloke has never had a problem in his career: Dec 2004 - stubbed a lit cigar into the eye of young team-mate Jamie Tandy during Manchester City's Christmas party. Fined six weeks' wages by City. Forced to pay four weeks' salary - approximately £60,000 - immediately, with a further two weeks suspended for a year. Barton says: "If I was to do something similar, I'd be the biggest fool ever." May 2005 - breaks leg of 35 year-old pedestrian while driving his car at 2am in Liverpool city centre. July 2005 - involved in an altercation with a 15-year-old Everton fan at City's team hotel in Bangkok, where the team are playing in the FA Premier League Trophy. Fined eight weeks' wages by City after being found guilty of gross misconduct. Accepts punishment and agrees to undertake a programme of rehabilitation. Says: "When people talk about my dark days, when I sit down and think about it - the misdemeanours I've had, with the things that go on in the real world - the things I have done are stupid and foolish. But they are not war crimes." Sept 2006 - drops his shorts in the direction of Everton fans following City's 1-1 draw at Goodison Park. Charged with improper conduct and/or bringing the game into disrepute by the Football Association and fined £2,000. Says: "The shorts thing was only intended as a light-hearted joke but some people didn't take it that way unfortunately. I don't know whether the fans see me as the Evertonian that got away or what. I was there when I was a youngster and have had a couple of chances to go back and it's never been right." Feb 2007 - wins his first international call-up despite public criticism of the England team's performance at the World Cup and subsequent releases of autobiographies. Says: "England did nothing in the World Cup, so why are they bringing books out? 'We got beat in the quarter-finals, I played like s**t, here's my book'. Who wants to read that? I don't." March 2007 - arrested on suspicion of assault and criminal damage in an incident involving a taxi driver. He is later charged with criminal damage, which he denies. Says: "He (the taxi driver) didn't seem to be in control and seemed to be going really mad. I said 'Let's forget about the money and get out of the cab and get to safety', but he wouldn't stop the cab." May 2007 - suspended by Man City for the rest of the season after a training ground altercation with Ousmane Dabo. He is charged with assault and appears in court but is spared jail. Says: "I am very thankful to the media of this country. If it was not for them vilifying me I may have p****d my career up the wall. " Dec 2007 - arrested in Liverpool city centre in connection with an allegation of assault. He later admits assault and affray and is jailed for six months at Liverpool Crown Court. Says: "My last night out probably cost me £500,000 plus my reputation. I must have been as close as you can get to self destruct. I had two choices basically. Either you carry on doing what you're doing and your career's gone, or you address it." May 2008 - jumps a red light and undertakes dozens of cars in a bus lane driving to meet a probation officer while followed by the press. Says: "Why are they following him? It is a disgrace. What would you do if people followed you in a car? What is the guy meant to do? He doesn't know who is in the car, does he?" July 2008 - receives four-month suspended sentence for assaulting Dabo. Says: "Whether you're the best footballer in the world, or the best golfer or the best cricketer, you're a human being. You might be good at that, but you might be crap at life." July 2008 - released from prison. Says: "My reputation will always precede me to the day I die and for some people that probably can't be quickly enough. I'm not asking for anyone to feel sorry for me. I am indefensible." Sept 2008 - banned by the FA for 12 matches - six of which are suspended - and fined £25,000 after admitting violent conduct charge in relation to the Dabo incident. Says: "When you've been in as much s**t as I've been in, you've got to grow up. You can say, 'Do I really deserve this?' but you do. We live life in the limelight and there's nothing I can do about what's happened now. May 2009 - sent-off against Liverpool for late challenge on Xabi Alonso. Suspended until further notice by Newcastle manager Alan Shearer for the rest of the season following an explosive row between the pair which saw them held apart at Anfield. Says: "I think that was more because of who I was than what I did. The great thing about English football is it is so competitive. I hope that never changes." Nov 2010 - caught on camera punching Morten Gamst Pedersen in the stomach during Newcastle's 2-1 defeat against Blackburn, for which he only received a yellow card. July 2011 - criticises US immigration laws on Twitter after being denied a visa because of his six-month jail sentence for assault and affray in 2008. It means he misses the club's pre-season trip to the United States. Says: "Visa story is correct. They told me am not allowed in until I have 5yrs without any trouble. 3yrs down, 2yrs to go. Totally hypocrisy considering what they get up to but rules are rules." July/August 2011 - Tweets a series of cryptic messages hinting at problems behind the scenes at St James' Park before revealing he will make a more clear cut statement about his future at the club. Says: "If only we as players could tell the fans exactly how it is, without them above fining us lots of money. If it wouldn't effect team morale and cause unrest within the dressing room, am certain Jose's comments would be the tip of the iceberg..... And again it would be left to those magnificent fans to pick up the remnants of their once great football club." I've not denied that he's had problems in his career. I've denied that he consistently had problems with his bosses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 You only have to see the tweets about Cabaye to realise that Barton didn't respect certain players. Becoming clear he doesn't respect anyone really, especially authority, bosses etc, he's the bloke you know who has been sacked countless times after arguments with his bosses but its never his fault. Strange that he didn't seem to have a problem with his bosses before now, though. Aye. It's not like he was kicked out of City or squared up to Shearer in the dressing room is it? Man City was between him and another player, hardly his boss. Against Shearer, well, that was after a match in that he got sent off, probably knew we would get relegated, and was very much pissed off. Hardly something what couldn't have happend to anyone. Well if you ignore the times when he fell out with his previous bosses then yes you are right. He never had any problems with his previous bosses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongMag Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Our new players we signed this summer, especially those from abroad, must be hearing all this and thinking 'WTF have i done...?' "I'm a professional footballer player.. get me the hell out of here" I would imagine.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 What did his tweets about Cabaye say exactly? Its wasn't very welcoming from what i remember but it was just after his tantrum about Nobby leaving. It was along the line of what most should have in mind. "An unproven midfielder in, a proven player and captain out". Nothing to go on about, at all. Can't recollect him ever saying anything like that, and couldn't find it. He was obviously raging about Nolan going - 'Great player, leader, captain, person, trainer & mostly a friend for life. Devastated to see him SOLD! #mejoseandjonasnext' but not anything linking Nolan and Cabaye. May well be wrong however. Separate tweets i think Dave, but they kind of followed a path right from when it was clear Nolan was on his way out, i reckon thats when the clock in his head started to countdown to the mess we have now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Why is the boss bit so important? He falls out with a lot of people, some are his bosses and some aren't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 The guy has been dicked around with his contract, saw his two good (best?) pals at the club dicked around and sold off, a manager he seemed to have a good relationship with sacked without reason and replaced with a mong and has also seen blatent lies Dekka and co about the £££££££££ being reinvested. He's got every right to be angry. If you add those issues + his personality (which some would say it's a managers job to manage) then the outcome was only ever going to be disaster. That said, I appreciate the fact he's got the balls to offer an opinion, whether people want to hear it or agree with it is up to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Where are all these players supporting Joey on twitter? A few "shocked" tweets is not exactly support. I've just had a quick look for tweets supporting him and you already know the answer as you've tweeted the players basically telling them to shut up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Where are all these players supporting Joey on twitter? A few "shocked" tweets is not exactly support. I've just had a quick look for tweets supporting him and you already know the answer as you've tweeted the players basically telling them to shut up. we can't afford to lose any more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheSummerOf69 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 ..the lack of any optimism about our new signings is pretty depressing. Cabaye and Ben Arfa in particular I'm very happy about, and Ba is (shock horror) proven to be able to get goals at this level. Well - goal, anyway. The 's' is yet to be earned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Now he has been fined 2 weeks wages and isn't allowed to train again he may as well say everything he has to now. Why wait? Nothing worse can happen, he has been fined the max amount, he'll be gone within 2 weeks. What is he waiting for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 NilePowerRanger Nile ranger No1 breaks up on good terms 29 seconds ago Favorite Undo Retweet Reply voice of experience Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 You only have to see the tweets about Cabaye to realise that Barton didn't respect certain players. Becoming clear he doesn't respect anyone really, especially authority, bosses etc, he's the bloke you know who has been sacked countless times after arguments with his bosses but its never his fault. Strange that he didn't seem to have a problem with his bosses before now, though. Eh, every boss he ha had would differ, while being placated he is fine, when not s*** hits the fan. I do believe he has been disruptive in the last few months, my own opinion obviously, but as the Man.City fan who delivers my work to me said, he will eventually poison the water where he is, as he knows no other way to react when he thinks he has been wronged, as he put it, as night follows day, Joey will always spoil things for himself, not that the club have helped like. Makes you wonder why Pardew and Beardsley were praising him recently doesn't it? Complete mystery I would think he was probably ok until he saw we aren't spending money/selling players he was close to, now he is lashing out in all directions, as he has been prone to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 ..the lack of any optimism about our new signings is pretty depressing. Cabaye and Ben Arfa in particular I'm very happy about, and Ba is (shock horror) proven to be able to get goals at this level. Well - goal, anyway. The 's' is yet to be earned. Eh? Didn't he get about 7 at the end of last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 NilePowerRanger Nile ranger No1 breaks up on good terms 29 seconds ago Favorite Undo Retweet Reply voice of experience When Nile is the voice of reason you're in trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 You only have to see the tweets about Cabaye to realise that Barton didn't respect certain players. Becoming clear he doesn't respect anyone really, especially authority, bosses etc, he's the bloke you know who has been sacked countless times after arguments with his bosses but its never his fault. Strange that he didn't seem to have a problem with his bosses before now, though. Eh, every boss he ha had would differ, while being placated he is fine, when not s*** hits the fan. I do believe he has been disruptive in the last few months, my own opinion obviously, but as the Man.City fan who delivers my work to me said, he will eventually poison the water where he is, as he knows no other way to react when he thinks he has been wronged, as he put it, as night follows day, Joey will always spoil things for himself, not that the club have helped like. Makes you wonder why Pardew and Beardsley were praising him recently doesn't it? Complete mystery I would think he was probably ok until he saw we aren't spending money/selling players he was close to, now he is lashing out in all directions, as he has been prone to do. it's pretty one directional like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 You only have to see the tweets about Cabaye to realise that Barton didn't respect certain players. Becoming clear he doesn't respect anyone really, especially authority, bosses etc, he's the bloke you know who has been sacked countless times after arguments with his bosses but its never his fault. Strange that he didn't seem to have a problem with his bosses before now, though. Eh, every boss he ha had would differ, while being placated he is fine, when not s*** hits the fan. I do believe he has been disruptive in the last few months, my own opinion obviously, but as the Man.City fan who delivers my work to me said, he will eventually poison the water where he is, as he knows no other way to react when he thinks he has been wronged, as he put it, as night follows day, Joey will always spoil things for himself, not that the club have helped like. Makes you wonder why Pardew and Beardsley were praising him recently doesn't it? Complete mystery I would think he was probably ok until he saw we aren't spending money/selling players he was close to, now he is lashing out in all directions, as he has been prone to do. You said you thought he'd been disruptive for the last few months. Make your mind up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 You only have to see the tweets about Cabaye to realise that Barton didn't respect certain players. Becoming clear he doesn't respect anyone really, especially authority, bosses etc, he's the bloke you know who has been sacked countless times after arguments with his bosses but its never his fault. Strange that he didn't seem to have a problem with his bosses before now, though. Aye. It's not like he was kicked out of City or squared up to Shearer in the dressing room is it? Man City was between him and another player, hardly his boss. Against Shearer, well, that was after a match in that he got sent off, probably knew we would get relegated, and was very much p*ssed off. Hardly something what couldn't have happend to anyone. He got suspended by keegan, then by Shearer, fell out with Pearce........Big Sam let down when he got arrested, there more.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Time he fucked off now tbh, before he drags us further through the clarts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Why is the boss bit so important? He falls out with a lot of people, some are his bosses and some aren't. Thats true, very Bellamy that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Think its a waste of time arguing about all this now, no one changes their viewpoints even when faced with solid arguments. We'll have to see how the season goes & how much of an impact all this clever decision making has made. Hopefully not to much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 just saw tv-pictures of joey with his locker cleared out. Joey Barton on a free. it won't settle in for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 NilePowerRanger Nile ranger No1 breaks up on good terms 29 seconds ago Favorite Undo Retweet Reply voice of experience When Nile is the voice of reason you're in trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheSummerOf69 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 ..the lack of any optimism about our new signings is pretty depressing. Cabaye and Ben Arfa in particular I'm very happy about, and Ba is (shock horror) proven to be able to get goals at this level. Well - goal, anyway. The 's' is yet to be earned. Eh? Didn't he get about 7 at the end of last season? Oh, sorry. I thought you were talking about Ben Arfa. Ba did indeed, my mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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