ponsaelius Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 With Barton possibly crocked and Taylor out for three games, we should be trying to get Routledge back, not attempting to get more midfielders off the books. You'd think having to utilise Lovenkrands on the right wing would have rung the alarm bell like. f***ing exactly. If we'd been in a relegation battle, I'd agree. If we lose Barton & Tiote to injury or suspension or whatever then we'd miss out on Europe whether we had Routledge & Guthrie playing, or Perch & Lovenkrands. We've got two players who'd offer little to the overall position we finish this season in the shop window now where QPR & Forest will probably give us £4-5m for two players who will not be good enough for us next season. Look at the bigger picture man instead of, "ooo what if Tiote's out for two games and Perch has to play twice and we finish 12th. Finishing 12th rather than say 8th would cost us £3 million though leaving the money gained from loaning out Guthrie pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 And my point is, with no Tiote, I don't think having either Guthrie or Perch playing would affect where we finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Can't prove it though. I argue if Routledge plays instead of Raylor on Saturday we win that game. I'd rather not have to watch Lovenkrands on the wing or Perch in midfield tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 People still give two shits about Danny Guthrie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Can't prove it though. I argue if Routledge plays instead of Raylor on Saturday we win that game. Routledge might not have gotten sent off, but in all likelihood he'd have been as poor as ever if he'd played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 As poor as he was against Chelsea, or Wolves, or Man City, or Everton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Guthrie's not that bad. I'd rather not have him starting but he's alright. Yeah he was shit v West Brom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sander68 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Another idiotic move from the club. Can't see any positives about it what so ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Another idiotic move from the club. Can't see any positives about it what so ever. Might help us to sell him? A poor player who probably doesn't belong anywhere near the level we should be aspiring to. I know what you mean, though. It seems very daft with such minimal cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Another idiotic move from the club. Can't see any positives about it what so ever. Might help us to sell him? A poor player who probably doesn't belong anywhere near the level we should be aspiring to. I know what you mean, though. It seems very daft with such minimal cover. Have to focus on the positives really, I wouldn't want to play Guthrie in the starting XI between now and the end of the season, so that hopefully means if he was needed to fill in or give someone a break (from our hectic schedule ) then that'll pass onto Perch/Vukcic/Ferguson or maybe the rarely-spotted Stephen Ireland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 As poor as he was against Chelsea, or Wolves, or Man City, or Everton? He's played a few good games (don't remember him doing much against Everton like) and more average to poor games. I suppose I was too harsh to say as poor as ever though, obviously he's not always poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeta87 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 The boy needs some game experiences imo. So I say yes. Right now hes no where in prm level so we wont be needing him anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 player not currently making the bench loaned out, bedlam ensues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 player not currently making the bench loaned out, bedlam ensues He's not making the bench because he's injured. And where's the bedlam? Daft foreigner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 player not currently making the bench loaned out, bedlam ensues He's not making the bench because he's injured. And where's the bedlam? Pages 34 or so to present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 My dad saw him in the Nuffield hospital in full training gear today. Might be injured Most likely having liposuction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Seems sensible move. With ireland about to make it to the first team and gosling.arfa coming backkkk. Guthrie in prem=lightweight. Doesnt seem to have an longterm future here. COuld be useful as a squad player for a uefa campaign, but thats gonna be 2 years away probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Good move imo too. They wouldn't have done this without Ireland and Gosling being very close to starting. And probably, the injury on Barton is not as scare as first feared. Guthrie needs playing time. If he performs well, that will also increase his price too, as already mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I hope Gosling and Ireland are close to starting then. I'm not a fan of Guthrie in the slightest but both those two have questionable fitness records and with Ryan Taylor and Barton out we would probably be using Guthrie in the next couple of games if he stays I would have thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 It's canny funny how people were slating him, questionning his level of ability and commitment and now everyone complains he's being loaned out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ovesbar Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 We only have 2 games between now and the start of April, when we should have Gosling, Ben Arfa and Ireland back. OK move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Michael Richardson > Danny Guthrie, or so Pards must think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Do people actually think they know better than the club. Loaning out Guthrie must mean 1. Bartons injury isn't that serious 2. Gosling, Ireland, Ben Arfa and Barton should be fit soon. 3. Perch has been decent as DM in training. 4. They have practiced 3-5-2 with wingbacks in case something happens giving extra reassurance in the back with three defenders and a DM. 5. Guthrie is shit and although good to have in squad maybe Shane Ferguson, Vukcic, Perch have impressed more in practice. 6. Must be a good loan fee involved. 7. Is this even confirmed or true for that matter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Good move for us and Forest IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 It's canny funny how people were slating him, questionning his level of ability and commitment and now everyone complains he's being loaned out. Not really. I was slating him but it doesn't mean if we have four or five midfielders out through injury I wouldn't want him to be picked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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