Yorkie Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 The only position I can see him making his own is as a holding midfielder where he can be excused walking about like a spectator most of the match. In this division he could probably set up our play better than Smith or Butt from there. The only worry would be whether he would be bullied and knocked about because he's quite feeble on the ball. Yep, i'd play him deep aswell - where he can put what reasonable vision/technique he has to actual use. Ideally it would be with a box-to-boxer who'll run all day, but we don't have one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maccan Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 The biggest problem for Guthrie is that he's too slow. And he can't get the sight off the ball when he moves with it, so he's missing allot of passing-chances. And he also holding the ball too long sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Seems to me he gets the shitty end of the stick in midfield cos when Houghton gets injurys he moves Guthrie like yesterday and it clearly didnt work as he wasnt comfortable there and it was summed up when he had time and space he fell flat on his face ,he has limited ability but more suited central right midfield imho and has played his best football there and thanks to Houghton it looks like he has lost a little bit of confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 The biggest problem for Guthrie is that he's too slow. And he can't get the sight off the ball when he moves with it, so he's missing allot of passing-chances. And he also holding the ball too long sometimes. Typical academy type product; Neat and tidy on the ball, good touch but lacks a real spark and invention. Too many one paced, pedestrian automatons in today's game. Bring back the mavericks who took a chance and played without fear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Needs playing in the centre, nevertheless - he's not the answer. Not for next season anyways.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Minus a few of our defenders, who is the answer next season, assuming we get promoted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Minus a few of our defenders, who is the answer next season, assuming we get promoted? Shola Ameobi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 We'll have to wait and see I think. He looked good last season (ManUtd the very first game of the season -> Keegan's man of the match). I really think that this season he's a bit frustrated at the amount of games he gets and gets in middle. He's also still young and still can improve. Minus a few of our defenders, who is the answer next season, assuming we get promoted? Harper, Jonas, Barton, Guthrie (maybe, as I've said), Routledge, Smith, Lovenkrands, Carroll are players I'm confident of that they can do a job for us next season (in the Premier Leauge). We won't get to top 6 or top 8 with those players but we should be able to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Guthrie is our best central midfielder, probably by quite a distance. Sad but true. We just need someone with real energy alongside him, and both the wingers to be playing. I think he would cope a lot better in those circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I hope Hughton has sat them down and told them to pass the ball quicker, the amount of times Nolan and Guthrie got robbed of the ball for fannying around with it for too long was an absolute joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I hope Hughton has sat them down and told them to pass the ball quicker, the amount of times Nolan and Guthrie got robbed of the ball for fannying around with it for too long was an absolute joke. Yeah, it's a double-edged problem though, most of our team are so immobile that their passing options are very limited. They still should be better at keeping possession though, I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 We'll have to wait and see I think. He looked good last season (ManUtd the very first game of the season -> Keegan's man of the match). I really think that this season he's a bit frustrated at the amount of games he gets and gets in middle. He's also still young and still can improve. Minus a few of our defenders, who is the answer next season, assuming we get promoted? Harper, Jonas, Barton, Guthrie (maybe, as I've said), Routledge, Smith, Lovenkrands, Carroll are players I'm confident of that they can do a job for us next season (in the Premier Leauge). We won't get to top 6 or top 8 with those players but we should be able to stay up. Very optimistic, a fair few of those just haven't performed well at top level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 David's list is pretty realistic IMO, not for 'success' in the Premiership, but for staying there. The only one I would disagree with is Smudger, he'll be way out of his depth in the Prem. Take out our obvious weak links like Nolan and add a few players with real athleticism and energy and we might have a shout of staying up. Not there yet obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 We'll have to wait and see I think. He looked good last season (ManUtd the very first game of the season -> Keegan's man of the match). I really think that this season he's a bit frustrated at the amount of games he gets and gets in middle. He's also still young and still can improve. Minus a few of our defenders, who is the answer next season, assuming we get promoted? Harper, Jonas, Barton, Guthrie (maybe, as I've said), Routledge, Smith, Lovenkrands, Carroll are players I'm confident of that they can do a job for us next season (in the Premier Leauge). We won't get to top 6 or top 8 with those players but we should be able to stay up. Very optimistic, a fair few of those just haven't performed well at top level. Right. That's why I said we won't get top 6 or 8 with those players but will survive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Those players didn't survive, mate. They're all playing in the championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Those players didn't survive, mate. They're all playing in the championship. You must know that he means alongside some new players to fill the other spots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Those players didn't survive, mate. They're all playing in the championship. You must know that he means alongside some new players to fill the other spots. Yes, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 We need to ship out Nolan, Smith, Butt and Maybe Barton (along with their massive fucking wages) and it cannot be too hard to get some decent, young and mobile players who will be an improvement even if we aren't spending a lot. I think that Davies at Bolton (not the target man) has looked pretty decent whenever I have seen him, it can't be that difficult to find some energetic players. I know Ambrose seems to be playing as a striker these days but I wouldn't mind taking a punt on him and sticking him as a central attacking midfielder. He certainly has some legs about him and wouldn't be that expensive considering Palace sold their more valuable (in terms of cash generation) player for £2.5m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dazzanufc1892 Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 would love to see ambrose back, bad decision to sell him in the first place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 We need to ship out Nolan, Smith, Butt and Maybe Barton (along with their massive fucking wages) and it cannot be too hard to get some decent, young and mobile players who will be an improvement even if we aren't spending a lot. I think that Davies at Bolton (not the target man) has looked pretty decent whenever I have seen him, it can't be that difficult to find some energetic players. I know Ambrose seems to be playing as a striker these days but I wouldn't mind taking a punt on him and sticking him as a central attacking midfielder. He certainly has some legs about him and wouldn't be that expensive considering Palace sold their more valuable (in terms of cash generation) player for £2.5m. On that subject, you have to wonder why we don't have any young central midfielders already on the books who are at least capable of getting on the bench. Other than Vukic who is really more of a striker, who plays in the middle for reserve games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I thought Inman was the young centre midfield hope? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I thought Inman was the young centre midfield hope? How old is he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I thought Inman was the young centre midfield hope? How old is he? Turned 18 just before Christmas. Scored a cracker against West Ham in the Youth Cup the other week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I thought Inman was the young centre midfield hope? How old is he? Turned 18 just before Christmas. Scored a cracker against West Ham in the Youth Cup the other week. If you have seen him is he physically strong enough to step up for first team duty yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 He looks like Kaka so it's worth a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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