Lenny Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Speaking of Guthrie, I'm personally still not convinced with him to be honest. I always feel nervous when he receives the ball in a tight spot as I think his touch is going to let him down. Say what you want about Nolan but his first touch is very good, I'm always pretty confident he can get the ball and pass it quickly with people closing him down, I just feel nervous when Guthrie is in the same situation. Also, for a player I always thought had decent technique and passing ability, his passes are quite wayward at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 His free kicks are miles better than Raylor's, those two FK's at the end were dipping in, forced two good saves from Camp. I thought his set pieces apart from the one that forced a decent save from Camp were shocking. He took two direct free kicks in the second half that forced Camp to save, Raylor usually gets those way above of the bar. His corners were awful all night though. My mate summed it up perfectly. "He's been looking at the 'Geremi guide to taking corner kicks'" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Speaking of Guthrie, I'm personally still not convinced with him to be honest. I always feel nervous when he receives the ball in a tight spot as I think his touch is going to let him down. Say what you want about Nolan but his first touch is very good, I'm always pretty confident he can get the ball and pass it quickly with people closing him down, I just feel nervous when Guthrie is in the same situation. Also, for a player I always thought had decent technique and passing ability, his passes are quite wayward at times. I thought he looked canny last night, he can spot a clever pass which is handy in our team where we have had a succession of plodders over the years. I don't think he's good enough for the premier though. He wants too much time on the ball and lacks pace. If we are going to use that type of player next season I'd prefer it to be Barton if I'm honest. Maybe they could play together but I'd prefer at least one player in the middle who can motor a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 His free kicks are miles better than Raylor's, those two FK's at the end were dipping in, forced two good saves from Camp. I thought his set pieces apart from the one that forced a decent save from Camp were shocking. He took two direct free kicks in the second half that forced Camp to save, Raylor usually gets those way above of the bar. His corners were awful all night though. I counted one that was decent, and no one attacked it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I think the conditions might have had something to do with the poor set pieces. Every time he swung a boot at the ball there seemed to be a gallon of water sloshing into the air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Speaking of Guthrie, I'm personally still not convinced with him to be honest. I always feel nervous when he receives the ball in a tight spot as I think his touch is going to let him down. Say what you want about Nolan but his first touch is very good, I'm always pretty confident he can get the ball and pass it quickly with people closing him down, I just feel nervous when Guthrie is in the same situation. Also, for a player I always thought had decent technique and passing ability, his passes are quite wayward at times. I thought he looked canny last night, he can spot a clever pass which is handy in our team where we have had a succession of plodders over the years. I don't think he's good enough for the premier though. He wants too much time on the ball and lacks pace. If we are going to use that type of player next season I'd prefer it to be Barton if I'm honest. Maybe they could play together but I'd prefer at least one player in the middle who can motor a bit. Don't get me wrong his passing can be very intelligent, and he did play a couple of really nice cross field balls, but sometimes he seems be a bit sloppy with the simple ones. Last night may have been due to the conditions as you've said but I've thought this more than just this game. I also agree with you in that he wants too much time. I know this is completely contradicting my argument with regards to wanting too much time on the ball but I'd sooner replace him than Nolan, although that's not me saying I want Nolan in our first 11 next year week in week out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 His free kicks are miles better than Raylor's, those two FK's at the end were dipping in, forced two good saves from Camp. I thought his set pieces apart from the one that forced a decent save from Camp were shocking. He took two direct free kicks in the second half that forced Camp to save, Raylor usually gets those way above of the bar. His corners were awful all night though. Aye, but i'd put that down to the ground being totally saturated in the corners. It's not a great excuse and it shouldn't matter, but his corners have been good this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Can't imagine he could plant his standing foot at the corners, it looked bad. Besides it would be like kicking a ball out of sand, really difficult to get any lift. IMO he did well considering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 most of the corners failed to clear the first man last night. Not nice as it forced memories of Geremi back into my head. Woke up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat thinking we'd re-signed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Right-o. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Right-o. if that was aimed at my post, I was joking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Didn't have a great game last night, weather conditions weren't ideal for someone who likes the stroke the ball around though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Right-o. if that was aimed at my post, I was joking. Oh. I knew that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Didn't have a great game last night, weather conditions weren't ideal for someone who likes the stroke the ball around though. Aye creatively not his best outing. Some of the freekicks weren't bad though. Still gives us a lot of drive and go forward, won a lot of challenges in the midfield last night as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Like Guthrie, but probably more of a backup next season I think. The likes of O'Hara and Boateng are a notch above him and should be targeted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Do people think he is going to get much of look in this season? He improved rapidly towards the back end of the season and started playing alot more consistently. Has alot of work still to do, but can he make it at the top level? At his age its starting to get make or break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Do people think he is going to get much of look in this season? He improved rapidly towards the back end of the season and started playing alot more consistently. Has alot of work still to do, but can he make it at the top level? At his age its starting to get make or break. He'll have to tbh. Smith and Nolan cannot be relied upon in the Prem, and Barton? Will he be fit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 I'd like to see him starting ahead of Smith and Nolan, but that seems for the most part unlikely, Barton will also be above him in the pecking order. Then if reports are true and we get Gossling/Cleverley/De Guzman that will push him further back. Cleverley will only be coming under the condition of getting games, then both Gossling and De Guzman have left their clubs because they want more. It looks like we are going to have some better options in midfield, but we are still woefully short in the defensive midfielder role. We have Perch and Smith, neither are ideal, maybe Barton or Guthrie will be used as a deep lying playmaker type that Emre was earmarked for so long ago! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Danny Guthrie could be like Xabi Alonso was for Liverpool if we play him right. Not in terms of quality, but importance to the team and style of play. His best attributes are passing, crossing and creativity, with the odd long range shot being dangerous. We need to play him next to someone like Nigel De Jong for example, not on that level obviously, but someone who's strengths are that of a defensive midfielder, complimenting Guthrie's presence . It would allow Guthrie to have more freedom and keep us 'ticking over ' in a deeper role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prestonj1989 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Guthrie should be our first choice centre midfielder next season even if we sign Gosling or Cleverley imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Only thing that worries me about Guthrie is his lack of pace, and sometimes lack of urgency on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Only thing that worries me about Guthrie is his lack of pace, and sometimes lack of urgency on the ball. Think we need a quick, strong, physical presence alongside him. Infact I think we need a player of this ilk in general in the squad. Anthony Annan for Ghana would be absolutely spot on but I think he's heading for bigger things after his World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Solid player, would like to see Smith sold and have him bumped up a place in the ranks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Solid player, would like to see Smith sold and have him bumped up a place in the ranks. I don't think we could sell Smith even if we wanted to. Even if someone like Stoke wanted him the wages would be far less and he wouldn't want to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Smith is a fucking albatross. God knows what we're gonna do with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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