Guest Roger Kint Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 You really are a WUM Gazza, sad like but never mind i guess its like sex for you. I will let the fact that Mourinho rose from Interpretor to top manager since September 2000. In those 9 years he has 5 titles, 6 domestic cups, 1 Uefa Cup, 1 Champions League trophy and 2 Uefa manager of the year awards. David O'leary has not worked since July 2006 and has never won a trophy as a manager. His total career trophies were 2 leagues and 2 domestic cups both won in an Arsenal side which were pretty good. Yeah he really pisses on Jose there I admit Mourinho is a better manager but then he's not on our radar and O'Leary is.. My point is its a bit much to say DOL has nothing to have an ego about given all he's achieved in football. For most of the last 30 years O'Laery has been succesful in football, whereas Mourinho has been around 5 minutes in comparison. What's so hard to grasp about that? WTF? No that wasnt your point, thats your embarassing backtracking. This was your point. That's a laugh. Mourinho hasn't achieved half of what O'Leary has in football but Mourinho can have an ego (even before Chelsea) and O'Leary can't. Well he hasn't has he? I'm including O'Leary's succesful 20 year playing career, when Mourinho turns up with a big ego when he never even played the game. Do keep up. My post shows what each have won in total. Dont try to be smart, its not your style. Let face the facts eh? The smug attitude should be from my side based on your pathetic logic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Decent article from the soccernet Norman Hubbard http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=666992&sec=england&root=england&cc=5901&cc=5739 O'Leary the talk of toon With the obvious exception of Sunderland supporters, Mike Ashley's continued ownership of Newcastle United is benefitting few people. Maligned managers, however, are an exception. Ashley has revived interest in forgotten Anglo-Irish bosses, whose years in London mean they may qualify for membership of his Cockney Mafia. First Joe Kinnear and now, it seems, David O'Leary. GettyImages David O'Leary gives the orders at Aston Villa The latest twist on Tyneside this week was the suggestion that the former Leeds and Aston Villa manager would be appointed to try and guide Newcastle back to the Premier League, possibly so Ashley could sell a top-flight outfit for a higher sum. It would be a remarkable appointment for any number of reasons: the chaos at the club, the consensus that Alan Shearer is the most credible candidate with players and supporters alike and because it would catapult O'Leary back into the spotlight. This is the strange case of David O'Leary. At one stage, he appeared among the outstanding managers of his generation. Yet he has had three years away from football and has barely been missed. Indeed for much of that time, he has rarely been mentioned, apart from a suggestion Celtic wanted him in the summer; instead, they paid compensation to take Tony Mowbray from relegated West Bromwich Albion. O'Leary surfaced in an interview a few weeks ago to announce he has been offered several jobs, without naming them, and suggest that his admirers include both Fabio Capello and Jose Mourinho. He has never suffered from low self-esteem and absence, it seems, has not made O'Leary any more modest. He also drew an unflattering comparison between Martin O'Neill's record at Villa Park and his own. There was something undignified about O'Leary acting as his own cheerleader, but perhaps the shame is that he needs to mount his own PR campaign. His reputation was tarnished during Leeds' hasty descent down the divisions. The spendthrift who precipitated administration could not repair his standing at Villa, either. His detractors outnumber his supporters in both West Yorkshire and the West Midlands. Now he can appear a prototype for Phil Brown, initially admired for his media-friendly approach but swiftly ridiculed for his comments. An inability to distinguish charm from smarm meant his platitudes and obvious insincerity riled ever larger numbers of people. A decade on, a mention of "my babies" in a cod Irish accent automatically brings O'Leary to mind. Yet none of that means he is a poor manager. He has made mistakes - the signings of Robbie Fowler and Seth Johnson, the decision to write a book about the time when Lee Bowyer and Jonathan Woodgate were in court, and to allow the publishers to title it 'Leeds United On Trial', the one-dimensional tactics that marred his final months at Elland Road, when a reluctance to use substitutes suggested that he was unable to amend his game-plan - but he is not alone in that. Nor is his perception as a chequebook manager entirely accurate. O'Leary took the side he inherited from George Graham to fourth in the Premier League and then, after a summer when the principal transfer was the sale of Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, to third. It should be an endorsement of his management that many of his Leeds charges have struggled to recapture the same form elsewhere, and several of them were players he developed. GettyImages The fans send a message to O'Leary In his first year at Villa, he steered them into the top six on limited resources and he has only once, in his final season there, finished outside the top 10 of the Premier League. View in it a certain light and O'Leary's record compares favourably with those of Harry Redknapp, Sam Allardyce or, at Villa Park, O'Neill. And none, of course, can match his European exploits. Leeds are rarely mentioned without the 2001 Champions League semi-finals, partly because it is a reminder how far and how fast they have fallen. Nevertheless, it was a remarkable achievement at a time when Premier League clubs were not accustomed to progressing that far. Homegrown managers still aren't: the last schooled in England to reach that stage in Europe's premier club competition was Joe Fagan, a quarter of a century ago. Yet in the three years since O'Leary became the final victim of 'Deadly Doug' Ellis, there has not been a clamour for his appointment anywhere. His image means he is unlikely to become a cause celebre, and the Newcastle United Supporters Club have voiced their opposition to O'Leary. He has won more football matches than popularity contests. Admittedly, some of his players are thought to have taken a dislike to him at both of his former clubs and man-management is an issue to address if he returns to the dug-out, but public approval matters less than results. In that respect, it might take a man as impervious to received wisdom and as unaware of the views of the masses as Ashley to plump for O'Leary. It is a decision others appear reluctant to take. A select group of friends include Gerard Houllier, Tony Adams and Niall Quinn, but the last has appointed three managers during O'Leary's extended sabbatical. In his most recent interview, O'Leary said, somewhat strangely: "I know Niall too well to work with him. I know the real Niall." It was a reminder that he has not helped himself, but the real David O'Leary, despite his flaws, is a manager of genuine ability. Quite when and where he will have the opportunity to demonstrate that, however, is part of the mystery of a very unusual career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I can't believe I'm reading an argument pitting David O'Leary against Jose Mourinho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 O'Leary against Ginola? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 My manager's just said that when she was living in Harrogate he used to come into her gym and run on the treadmill, watching himself intently in the mirror the whole time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 4/9 with SkyBet http://www.skybet.com/skybet?action=GoEvType&id=10002896 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 My manager's just said that when she was living in Harrogate he used to come into her gym and run on the treadmill, watching himself intently in the mirror the whole time Vanity doesn't necessarily affect ones ability to do their job. Unless your name is Phil Brown anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 That Gazza kid is a WUM man, don't fall for it ffs Exactly Andrew. The people who have been on here for years and are still biting need to take a long look at themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 odd, sky bet and paddy power have suspended betting on next managers job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 odd, sky bet and paddy power have suspended betting on next managers job Not really a bet of £500 will do that to either betting sites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Radio Newcastle are reporting that talks with O'Leary have broken down!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Radio Newcastle are reporting that talks with O'Leary have broken down!!! Good!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 It's not that great though, the fact we were negotiating in the first place means the takeover isn't any nearer and now we're just gonna get an even worse manager or maybe Hughton will stay on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 It's not that great though, the fact we were negotiating in the first place means the takeover isn't any nearer and now we're just gonna get an even worse manager or maybe Hughton will stay on! I'd honestly rather keep Hughton than have O'Leary here. Actually, I'd sooner take Ossie Ardiles than O'Leary! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Radio Newcastle are reporting that talks with O'Leary have broken down!!! Good!! Wants to much of a wage, Ashley won't budge BUT it does seem that the sale if off and he will be keeping us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Radio Newcastle are reporting that talks with O'Leary have broken down!!! Good!! Wants to much of a wage, Ashley won't budge BUT it does seem that the sale if off and he will be keeping us which means jfk would take over again which is much much much worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 JFK... How about Curbishley or Coppell? Can't understand why he'd go back to JFK with the likes of those two on the scrapheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 JFK... How about Curbishley or Coppell? Can't understand why he'd go back to JFK with the likes of those two on the scrapheap. this is ma we're talking about when has good decision making been one of his strong points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 JFK... How about Curbishley or Coppell? Can't understand why he'd go back to JFK with the likes of those two on the scrapheap. I'd obviously prefer either. Unfortunately, they aren't as desperate and as friendly with Ashley. They may even dare to think for themselves and realise the team needs strengthening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 JFK... How about Curbishley or Coppell? Can't understand why he'd go back to JFK with the likes of those two on the scrapheap. If O'Leary doesn't happen then i'd take Coppell. Did great with Reading and knows how to get out of this league. As does Curbishley but he'd get a nosebleed going up north. That's why Harry Redknapp was never gonig to come here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 JFK... How about Curbishley or Coppell? Can't understand why he'd go back to JFK with the likes of those two on the scrapheap. £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 tbh this could just be a reaction to the news tht the DO'L talks had broken down and people putting 2+2 together Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianovthetoon Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 JFK... How about Curbishley or Coppell? Can't understand why he'd go back to JFK with the likes of those two on the scrapheap. £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ Given the quotes attributed to Kinnear about "deluded" geordies etc, I would be astounded if he brings him back. We'd be royally screwed. It would also add more evidence to Ashley wanting to cause irrepairable damage to the short term future of this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 JFK... How about Curbishley or Coppell? Can't understand why he'd go back to JFK with the likes of those two on the scrapheap. £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ Given the quotes attributed to Kinnear about "deluded" geordies etc, I would be astounded if he brings him back. We'd be royally screwed. It would also add more evidence to Ashley wanting to cause irrepairable damage to the short term future of this club. If he does appear in the dugout it is vitally important we make our feelings known Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 It's not that great though, the fact we were negotiating in the first place means the takeover isn't any nearer and now we're just gonna get an even worse manager or maybe Hughton will stay on! I'd honestly rather keep Hughton than have O'Leary here. Actually, I'd sooner take Ossie Ardiles than O'Leary! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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