Anyone still want Shearer?

[Mowen]

Also hauled him off against Boro.

[Dinho lad]

 

 

 

If Shearer cannot motivate the players in a relegation fight what makes you think that he can motivate the players to win promotion?

 

That aside, look at the teams Shearer was fielding. What on earth was it going to take to convince him to sit Nicky Butt? Playing Beye at CB. Bassong at left back?  Duff at left back? He obviously doesn't see what we had in playing Enrique and Jonas together on the left. He's stated that Barton will not play for him. So what are we going to do then?

 

 

 

I know someone already corrected you on that, so I'm not gonna bother too much in doing the same.

 

All I'm going to say is that the comment about Beye playing at CB shows how ignorant you are. He's played there a million times for OM, and was class. That's even his best position, imo.

 

 

I think people are forgetting how Alan Shearer instantly commanded the players' respect and brought back the good feel factor to them. (Lost count how many times our players came out and said some positve stuff about him.)

 

And the way he handled the Obafemi Martins debacle at Stoke shows that he may not be like Souness, after all.

 

As for all of the tinckering and changing.... he had to do it to find the right formula. Not an easy thing to do considering the situation..... how many games did it take for KK to get us going the season before?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Chris has done a fantastic job this season in a horrible set of circumstances.  People really should not forget this.  Manager material longer term, I think not.

 

I tend to agree with you, but I can't think of any evidence! Just out of interest, what are your main reasons for thinking Hughton couldn't make a manager?

 

Lack of experience is obviously one, but Shearer suffers from that too.

[Yorkie]

Sounds sad but i'm inclinced to go by the omen that caretakers/assistants almost NEVER make it as actual managers.

[Robster]

Sounds sad but i'm inclinced to go by the omen that caretakers/assistants almost NEVER make it as actual managers.

[maze]

Shearer FTW!!!

[Guest sicko2ndbest]

For the 15.2% who want Hughton

 

see Glenn Roeder

 

The players are playing for themselves, period. They have had their reputations ruined by failing to avoid relegation. As soon as we have a bad run, you will see why Hughton is only a coach

[AyeDubbleYoo]

For the 15.2% who want Hughton

 

see Glenn Roeder

 

The players are playing for themselves, period. They have had their reputations ruined by failing to avoid relegation. As soon as we have a bad run, you will see why Hughton is only a coach

 

You might be right, but it hardly makes sense to give him no credit when things are going well but prepare to criticise him if they turn bad, does it? Either he's influencing the players or he isn't, right?

[Guest Roger Kint]

For the 15.2% who want Hughton

 

see Glenn Roeder

 

The players are playing for themselves, period. They have had their reputations ruined by failing to avoid relegation. As soon as we have a bad run, you will see why Hughton is only a coach

 

Am in that group and my choice was based on continuity until at least January/end of the season depending on a takeover. We have seen what constant upheaval can cause.

[TRon]

For the 15.2% who want Hughton

 

see Glenn Roeder

 

The players are playing for themselves, period. They have had their reputations ruined by failing to avoid relegation. As soon as we have a bad run, you will see why Hughton is only a coach

 

I don't believe Hughton is a long term answer, but while the club is officially up for sale he might as well continue the job if he's getting the results. What are the alternatvie options?

[gazzaA2]

For the 15.2% who want Hughton

 

see Glenn Roeder

 

The players are playing for themselves, period. They have had their reputations ruined by failing to avoid relegation. As soon as we have a bad run, you will see why Hughton is only a coach

 

I don't believe Hughton is a long term answer, but while the club is officially up for sale he might as well continue the job if he's getting the results. What are the alternatvie options?

 

He's fine for the Championship but the Roeder comparison is a good one.

 

We're effectively the equivalent of the Real Madrid galacticos in this league and any old idiot would be expected to get us promoted. However, if we're back in the Premiership next season, we need an experienced and proven modern manager. Not Shearer. Not 90s men like Kinnear and Keegan and not coaches like Hughton but a proper manager.

 

He's p*ssed on his chips now but Steve Bruce last season would have been a good choice and would have kept us up.

[TRon]

For the 15.2% who want Hughton

 

see Glenn Roeder

 

The players are playing for themselves, period. They have had their reputations ruined by failing to avoid relegation. As soon as we have a bad run, you will see why Hughton is only a coach

 

I don't believe Hughton is a long term answer, but while the club is officially up for sale he might as well continue the job if he's getting the results. What are the alternatvie options?

 

He's fine for the Championship but the Roeder comparison is a good one.

 

We're effectively the equivalent of the Real Madrid galacticos in this league and any old idiot would be expected to get us promoted. However, if we're back in the Premiership next season, we need an experienced and proven modern manager. Not Shearer. Not 90s men like Kinnear and Keegan and not coaches like Hughton but a proper manager.

 

He's p*ssed on his chips now but Steve Bruce last season would have been a good choice and would have kept us up.

 

Don't think that was Bruce's fault tbf. He would have come here if he'd been given the opportunity but he wasn't and now it's too late.

[Parky]

Haven't read the thread but I bet everyone's gone off Shearer now.

[Mowen]

Haven't read the thread but I bet everyone's gone off Shearer now.

 

Stick with Hughton alone  33 (15.3%)

Bring Shearer in as manager  144 (67%)

Appoint someone else  38 (17.7%)

 

[Mowen]

At the time I was very taken with almost all that Shearer was doing...bar the results. Looking back just at the stats now it's easy to forget this, particularly since we've won a few relatively easy games on the trot now.

[Parky]

Haven't read the thread but I bet everyone's gone off Shearer now.

 

Stick with Hughton alone  33 (15.3%)

Bring Shearer in as manager  144 (67%)

Appoint someone else  38 (17.7%)

 

 

People always vote the opp of what they say in the thread.

[Mowen]

Haven't read the thread but I bet everyone's gone off Shearer now.

 

Stick with Hughton alone  33 (15.3%)

Bring Shearer in as manager  144 (67%)

Appoint someone else  38 (17.7%)

 

 

People always vote the opp of what they say in the thread.

 

Vic left ages ago.

[Parky]

Haven't read the thread but I bet everyone's gone off Shearer now.

 

Stick with Hughton alone  33 (15.3%)

Bring Shearer in as manager  144 (67%)

Appoint someone else  38 (17.7%)

 

 

People always vote the opp of what they say in the thread.

 

Vic left ages ago.

 

:colo:

[gazzaA2]

Haven't read the thread but I bet everyone's gone off Shearer now.

 

Alot probably have but some of us didn't want him in the first place and don't just change our opinions every 5 minutes.

 

 

[Montey]

I have a mixed response.

 

Of all the people I have heard of that actually -want- the job, Shearer is the one I'd prefer.

 

But.... I'd prefer we get someone with more experience and potentially more talent (I say potentially more because Shearer is completely unproven).

 

So, for example, if the choices were Shearer or Kinnear I'd want Shearer.  But if the choices were Shearer or Hitzfeld I'd want Hitzfeld.

[Mowen]

I have a mixed response.

 

Of all the people I have heard of that actually -want- the job, Shearer is the one I'd prefer.

 

But.... I'd prefer we get someone with more experience and potentially more talent (I say potentially more because Shearer is completely unproven).

 

So, for example, if the choices were Shearer or Kinnear I'd want Shearer.  But if the choices were Shearer or Hitzfeld I'd want Hitzfeld.

 

I don't think many people would want Shearer over Hitzfeld. It's pretty much irrelevant though.

[Ronaldo]

I have a mixed response.

 

Of all the people I have heard of that actually -want- the job, Shearer is the one I'd prefer.

 

But.... I'd prefer we get someone with more experience and potentially more talent (I say potentially more because Shearer is completely unproven).

 

So, for example, if the choices were Shearer or Kinnear I'd want Shearer.  But if the choices were Shearer or Hitzfeld I'd want Hitzfeld.

 

I don't think many people would want Shearer over Hitzfeld. It's pretty much irrelevant though.

 

except 30,000 odd who go to the game

[Mowen]

I have a mixed response.

 

Of all the people I have heard of that actually -want- the job, Shearer is the one I'd prefer.

 

But.... I'd prefer we get someone with more experience and potentially more talent (I say potentially more because Shearer is completely unproven).

 

So, for example, if the choices were Shearer or Kinnear I'd want Shearer.  But if the choices were Shearer or Hitzfeld I'd want Hitzfeld.

 

I don't think many people would want Shearer over Hitzfeld. It's pretty much irrelevant though.

 

except 30,000 odd who go to the game

 

Moot point though isn't it. If we had our choice of some of the world's top managers I don't think there'd be much clamouring for Shearer. Granted, there probably would be some.

[2sheds]

All this 'inability to work with Barton' stuff is horseshit!

 

The facts of the matter were that Barton made a petulant tackle that resulted in a straight red card meaning he could play no further part in the run in. Shearer was frustrated because he knew how important Barton was in the run in. What should he have done

 

'Its ok Joey everyone makes mistakes, dont worry about the fact that you are now banned from the run in'

 

He faced up to what it was which was inexcusable. He told Barton exactly what he thought, something Hughton would not do in a million years. JFK would have probably applauded Barton for showing the c*** who's boss.

 

I WILL NOT HAVE ANYONE TAKE THE PISS OUT OF THIS CLUB

 

This sticks out to me like a sore thumb. Duff who has worked under Mourinho said Shearer was top drawer. This when he was not a guaranteed starter. This speaks volumes for me. Beggars belief that anyone can not want Shearer.

It beggars belief that anyone calling themselves 'sicko2ndbest' would want a failed manager back to have another go.

 

You need to face a few facts.

 

1 If Shearer had went to any truly big club in 1996 would that club have begged him to extend his contract so he breaks the club record, despite winning nothing else?

 

OR

 

2 Do you think Fergie would have peddled him after the edge went off his game ?

 

The whole reason we are second best is clinging onto people like Shearer. Don't forget he had a big part to play in Bobby getting the sack.

 

It's time to finally wash our hands of this guy and move on as a club.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I think you've got a major point there 2sheds, I love Shearer but we should have moved him on when he was a player, and we should be looking at proven managers.

 

Our club has massive potential, we could easily be as big as someone like Man Utd. With Shepherd, Hall and Keegan firmly in the past we should be looking to bring someone in to take us to the next level.

 

Perfect scenario - with promotion secured and a new owner in place I would think managers would be falling over themselves to get into the hotseat, no?