Guest icemanblue Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I have nothing against Keegan at all for what he did and will remain a legend, and would have been even if he had been in the wrong. The only point I was making before was that he could have in theory grit his teeth, ignored the player, and managed the team, in which instance he might have been able to get his way in the end. I still can't help thinking that walking within days however was a bit premature. Have you even read the report? I get the impression very few people have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 yup, end of the season or Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I have nothing against Keegan at all for what he did and will remain a legend, and would have been even if he had been in the wrong. The only point I was making before was that he could have in theory grit his teeth, ignored the player, and managed the team, in which instance he might have been able to get his way in the end. I still can't help thinking that walking within days however was a bit premature. yeah, I don't see why anyone couldn't feel like Keegan wasn't treated fairly but still feel disappointed and a little pissed off that he felt he had to walk away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I have nothing against Keegan at all for what he did and will remain a legend, and would have been even if he had been in the wrong. The only point I was making before was that he could have in theory grit his teeth, ignored the player, and managed the team, in which instance he might have been able to get his way in the end. I still can't help thinking that walking within days however was a bit premature. No mananger could work with that setup. None. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I have nothing against Keegan at all for what he did and will remain a legend, and would have been even if he had been in the wrong. The only point I was making before was that he could have in theory grit his teeth, ignored the player, and managed the team, in which instance he might have been able to get his way in the end. I still can't help thinking that walking within days however was a bit premature. There's a lot more to it than simply not wanting Nacho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I have nothing against Keegan at all for what he did and will remain a legend, and would have been even if he had been in the wrong. The only point I was making before was that he could have in theory grit his teeth, ignored the player, and managed the team, in which instance he might have been able to get his way in the end. I still can't help thinking that walking within days however was a bit premature. No mananger could work with that setup. None. Even JFK wasn't working under the same constraints. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I have nothing against Keegan at all for what he did and will remain a legend, and would have been even if he had been in the wrong. The only point I was making before was that he could have in theory grit his teeth, ignored the player, and managed the team, in which instance he might have been able to get his way in the end. I still can't help thinking that walking within days however was a bit premature. There's a lot more to it than simply not wanting Nacho. yes, but we don't know the full facts my thing is this, is it worse to have a player bought for you or sold behind your back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 yup, end of the season or Jan Oh my days. So, you expected him to stay on for a full season, or at least til January, knowing that he was working for people who had no intention of honouring their obligations to him? In fact, they'd completely re-written what their obligations even were. Where is the sense in that? Seriously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 si Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Yep, plastic. You've not got a fucking clue, man. I'm gonna go down the 'soopafan' route here, but hey ho. Burnip, you get to many games these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I have nothing against Keegan at all for what he did and will remain a legend, and would have been even if he had been in the wrong. The only point I was making before was that he could have in theory grit his teeth, ignored the player, and managed the team, in which instance he might have been able to get his way in the end. I still can't help thinking that walking within days however was a bit premature. There's a lot more to it than simply not wanting Nacho. yes, but we don't know the full facts my thing is this, is it worse to have a player bought for you or sold behind your back If you just sanctioned the sale of Milner for £12m would you not be a bit pissed off that his replacement was some no-mark loan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 yup, end of the season or Jan Oh my days. So, you expected him to stay on for a full season, or at least til January, knowing that he was working for people who had no intention of honouring their obligations to him? In fact, they'd completely re-written what their obligations even were. Where is the sense in that? Seriously. here, give it a break, are keegan's love child ffs, everytime someone has said something even remotely critcising keegan in a general way, you just don't give them the light of day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 yup, end of the season or Jan How would January have been any better? Keegan leaving in September gave his replacement four months to come in and assess the squad before the transfer window opened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericz Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 From legal and footballing perspectives, it is a good decision as it sets a precedent for future constructive dismissal of this kind in the world of football. What's unfortunate is that this club is the losing party. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Burnip you dont think that potentially staying at a club where he was being screwed over may have affected his ability to perform as our manager effectively or motivate our players? Leading to our club underperforming, whilst both tarnishing his reputation as a good manager - only because he himself was infact being fucked over ? Or do you think of Keegan as being some form of robotic god & if he doesnt single handedly perform miracles to put our club above all else in the universe - he is infact some kind of evil mastermind ? Some people are being let down by their own moronic expectations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 It's theoretically possible that he could have ignored the Nacho situation and just carried on, I'm sure some managers would have done that. But why should he have to, if he genuinely believed he should be in charge of all transfers? TBH we'll never know how bad the situation was, and whether KK 'could have' stuck it out... but if you take his word it certainly sounds like he wanted to stay but thought he had no other option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Yep, plastic. You've not got a fucking clue, man. I'm gonna go down the 'soopafan' route here, but hey ho. Burnip, you get to many games these days? Don't be daft, I'm not going to see fucking Plymouth, Blackpool et al. I might go to a Carling Cup game if we play anyone decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 legends should be a canny listen tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 yup, end of the season or Jan Oh my days. So, you expected him to stay on for a full season, or at least til January, knowing that he was working for people who had no intention of honouring their obligations to him? In fact, they'd completely re-written what their obligations even were. Where is the sense in that? Seriously. here, give it a break, are keegan's love child ffs, everytime someone has said something even remotely critcising keegan in a general way, you just don't give them the light of day Eh? I've questioned burnip on his claims that Keegan is a 'thieving cunt'. Now I'm questioning him on something that appears to be a blatant wind-up. At what point did I not give anyone 'the light of day'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 legends should be a canny listen tonight. I'll just imagine Supermac whinging on and not bother listening, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 legends should be a canny listen tonight. That'll be a first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Yep, plastic. You've not got a fucking clue, man. I'm gonna go down the 'soopafan' route here, but hey ho. Burnip, you get to many games these days? Don't be daft, I'm not going to see fucking Plymouth, Blackpool et al. I might go to a Carling Cup game if we play anyone decent. Hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 yup, end of the season or Jan Oh my days. So, you expected him to stay on for a full season, or at least til January, knowing that he was working for people who had no intention of honouring their obligations to him? In fact, they'd completely re-written what their obligations even were. Where is the sense in that? Seriously. here, give it a break, are keegan's love child ffs, everytime someone has said something even remotely critcising keegan in a general way, you just don't give them the light of day Eh? I've questioned burnip on his claims that Keegan is a 'thieving cunt'. Now I'm questioning him on something that appears to be a blatant wind-up. At what point did I not give anyone 'the light of day'? well, for a fact your questioning about many games ppl go to etc, one thing i hate is about ppl saying they are a better fan cos they go to more games etc, it's pathetic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 From legal and footballing perspectives, it is a good decision as it sets a precedent for future constructive dismissal of this kind in the world of football. What's unfortunate is that this club is the losing party. I think most owners will just be very careful about contracts they hand out to managers in future, some of the shiftier types will probably go down the Ashley route of appointing yes men just to be on the safe side. I think this is a special case though, you would like to think most owners would treat their employees a bit less shabbily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I have nothing against Keegan at all for what he did and will remain a legend, and would have been even if he had been in the wrong. The only point I was making before was that he could have in theory grit his teeth, ignored the player, and managed the team, in which instance he might have been able to get his way in the end. I still can't help thinking that walking within days however was a bit premature. Have you even read the report? At work so not yet. Going by the original post and the rest of the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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