Belfast Mags Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Not necessarily Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Haha to be fair to Phil he didn't say he liked doing it, just does it outside of being a care-worker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Every time this thread is bumped I'm reminded how much I despise this c***! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/2014/02/newcastle-united-michael-owen-career-tyneside-fan-blog/ :anguish: :anguish: :anguish: What a horrible article, are we sure Owen didn't write that under a different name. Surely even Owen's biggest NUFC Newcastle fan could have this kind of outlook on the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 That NUFCfans are on twitter aren't they? Pretty sure it's one of the major pro Pardew accounts which keeps going on about how good 8th is and it could be worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I think Owen is right that we only deal in extremities and there is no in between. It's been said by Mick Lowes and John Anderson recently as well, not just the c*** that Owen is. That's not to say we don't have a reason to be livid right now, but i do think more than most clubs it is in our nature to put a significant amount of emotion in. Oh ffs what toss. We are no worse than any other fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I can't believe I've spent/spending/will spend my only time in this one life in the same time as this tit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 He was 1 in 2 pretty much every season he played a good amount of games in. In his club career he's got 222 goals in 482 appearances. That's pretty bloody good. Technically, like any L'pool youth academy product he was sound. Zidane he was not but his all-round game was leagues ahead of the likes of Defoe, Bent or Cisse. A better striker and footballer than the likes of Pippo Inzaghi imo. He wasnt technically good at all. If he was, his loss of pace wouldnt have detracted from his game so much. And he was also extremely one footed. He was an instinctive finisher with pace in his prime. That's basically all there was to him. Injuries have bigger effect than pace. Players that lose their pace due to age rather than injuries tend to perform better. Technically he wasn't world class but that doesn't mean he wasn't good technically at all. Being a good finisher requires good technique too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I still don't think he was as technically good as Defoe. Defoe struck a ball far better. As a poacher he really should've scored far more goals, looking at the service he got throughout his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I still thought he was a good player for us, especially when KK moved him behind Viduka and Martins in a frint three. So Owen could arrive late and not have to rely on his pace. He was a very good footballer infact. Just doesn't seem to own a heart. http://images.elephantjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/tin-man-from-the-wizard-of-oz-the-wizard-of-oz-4129262-550-403.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 while he is correct in the basics it goes beyond that, simply put things could be a lot worse (and lord knows they have been) but things could be a lot better the club runs with a skeleton staff on all levels from the boardroom and money departments etc to the coaching staff right down to the playing staff. It doesn't require massive investment to improve 2 of those, more better qualified people on a board level will improve basic things like communication and PR (which is a disaster area) to the more complex like better sponsorship deals to maximize the resources available to the club. An increased coaching staff would bring new ideas to the table on the first team level and other ways of coaching and maybe even new tactical idea's, increasing the coaching staff further down increases the probability of bringing through youngsters to the first team and saving money in the long run. Hell even the scouting department could do with a little more investment, more scouts covering a wider area so we're not just trying to tap into a depleting market in France where they've more than caught up with our transfer tactics. The playing side is a bit more difficult and while in the short to medium term we'll never be able to match the spending power of City, Chelsea and co that doesn't mean we should give up. They can have greater proven quality of depth in squad than us obviously but we don't bother with depth at all, the best tactic for us to try to compete is either improve our academy (not a quick fix) or take gambles on young players from for example the lower leagues sure it mightn't work but better than trying to stand still which will only end up in us going backwards. Also f*** you owen f*** you Basically, Owen's correct points are facile. For the approach Ashley has adopted we are on par but that approach has shockingly low ambition. We've been more successful than Spurs/Everton for periods in recent history, our aim should at least to get on their footing. The problem is not that we aren't there, the problem is that we won't even try. The cub stuff is an absolute joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 while he is correct in the basics it goes beyond that, simply put things could be a lot worse (and lord knows they have been) but things could be a lot better the club runs with a skeleton staff on all levels from the boardroom and money departments etc to the coaching staff right down to the playing staff. It doesn't require massive investment to improve 2 of those, more better qualified people on a board level will improve basic things like communication and PR (which is a disaster area) to the more complex like better sponsorship deals to maximize the resources available to the club. An increased coaching staff would bring new ideas to the table on the first team level and other ways of coaching and maybe even new tactical idea's, increasing the coaching staff further down increases the probability of bringing through youngsters to the first team and saving money in the long run. Hell even the scouting department could do with a little more investment, more scouts covering a wider area so we're not just trying to tap into a depleting market in France where they've more than caught up with our transfer tactics. The playing side is a bit more difficult and while in the short to medium term we'll never be able to match the spending power of City, Chelsea and co that doesn't mean we should give up. They can have greater proven quality of depth in squad than us obviously but we don't bother with depth at all, the best tactic for us to try to compete is either improve our academy (not a quick fix) or take gambles on young players from for example the lower leagues sure it mightn't work but better than trying to stand still which will only end up in us going backwards. Also f*** you owen f*** you The cub stuff is an absolute joke. Howay man, I felt really proud when they gave me a new badge. Uniform was a bit dodgy like but still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 He was 1 in 2 pretty much every season he played a good amount of games in. In his club career he's got 222 goals in 482 appearances. That's pretty bloody good. Technically, like any L'pool youth academy product he was sound. Zidane he was not but his all-round game was leagues ahead of the likes of Defoe, Bent or Cisse. A better striker and footballer than the likes of Pippo Inzaghi imo. He wasnt technically good at all. If he was, his loss of pace wouldnt have detracted from his game so much. And he was also extremely one footed. He was an instinctive finisher with pace in his prime. That's basically all there was to him. Injuries have bigger effect than pace. Players that lose their pace due to age rather than injuries tend to perform better. Technically he wasn't world class but that doesn't mean he wasn't good technically at all. Being a good finisher requires good technique too. I'm with Incognito on this one. Technically he was poor, but in his prime he was amazingly fast, and that's where he built his reputation. We bought him as his pace was going, at too high a price, and when he'd already said he didn't want to come. That's not Owen's fault, but it was one of the silliest transfers of all time and symptomatic of the madness that seems to overtake our club from time to time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 We had a poster on here years ago who, now I look back, I swear easily could have actually been Michael Owen. He made loads of posts in various places, but they were all long spiels about Owen. Never anything else. Forgotten his name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 We had a poster on here years ago who, now I look back, I swear easily could have actually been Michael Owen. He made loads of posts in various places, but they were all long spiels about Owen. Never anything else. Forgotten his name. Was it Michael? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 We had a poster on here years ago who, now I look back, I swear easily could have actually been Michael Owen. He made loads of posts in various places, but they were all long spiels about Owen. Never anything else. Forgotten his name. The lad with the Owen pro-evo avatar up until like last year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 name was like Smith_01 or something. Basically his favourite two players were Alan Smith and Michael Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 A mackem, in other words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Nah, was years ago. He didn't have an avatar. Literally every single post was a long one about Michael Owen, without exception. Have a feeling it was something99, or summat. Ah well, it's neither important or interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I fucking hate this twat like. What really fucking boils my piss is the fact that the media run with this whole "Overly-ambitious Geordie nation" bollocks, which- if anyone spent enough time in the area / supporting the team would understand. People like Owen don't understand because they didn't integrate and didn't want to know. He just wanted to get his pay packet and fuck off (cannot necessarily blame him for that, but to question the fans ambition is bullshit for the afore-mentioned reason). Why shouldn't we be ambitious? We have the fan base. We have the stadium. We have the billionaire owner...just fuck off man Owen - you utter cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 How dare we expect a £16.5m poacher to score more than 26 goals in 4 seasons? Delusional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Actually have a page in our objection handling document at work to handle complaints about his commentary... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Actually have a page in our objection handling document at work to handle complaints about his commentary... I am a Southerner so obviously not around Newcastle supporters every day but everyone I speak to hates him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Actually have a page in our objection handling document at work to handle complaints about his commentary... I am a Southerner so obviously not around Newcastle supporters every day but everyone I speak to hates him. We get so many complaints about him someone had to devise a way to deal with it. Think on that man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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