Klaus Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I hope they all do join and fuck off into another dimension tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Let's go, great news! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, kocunar said: Let's go, great news! Great news? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 The political side of football is rank. We all know it’s a hyper capitalist model where greed and money is the only thing that matters to almost all owners and decision makers. Hard to get too upset about this nonsense as I accepted a long time ago that the game was completely fucked off the field Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Great news? Yep, fuck UEFA and FFP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bally21 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, kocunar said: Yep, fuck UEFA and FFP If there is an ESL - we won't be in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, kocunar said: Yep, fuck UEFA and FFP And PL imposed FMV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, kocunar said: Yep, fuck UEFA and FFP I concur on both counts but this decision actually threatens the fabric of European football itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 This stinks and will truly cripple football. The thing that gets on my nerves is the FFP control put in place by the UEFA, its then used a weapon to slow the progression or halt the progression of other clubs and then these so called top clubs who manipulate things go and create a super league for even more wealth. They can all fuck off. I dont want to watch Real Madrid v Barcelona every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Hopefully the backlash from this last time is enough to put the English clubs off at least. Think we really need to start joint protesting against the way football is being run. The new champions league changes are ridiculous, sounds like they've ruined a brilliant competition and hardly a word has been said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, NG32 said: This stinks and will truly cripple football. The thing that gets on my nerves is the FFP control put in place by the UEFA, its then used a weapon to slow the progression or halt the progression of other clubs and then these so called top clubs who manipulate things go and create a super league for even more wealth. They can all fuck off. I dont want to watch Real Madrid v Barcelona every week. Newcastle has to challenge FFP and FMV as they are anti competitive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, FloydianMag said: Newcastle has to challenge FFP and FMV as they are anti competitive Politically it’s very difficult for us to be the ones to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, WideopenMag said: Hopefully the backlash from this last time is enough to put the English clubs off at least. Think we really need to start joint protesting against the way football is being run. The new champions league changes are ridiculous, sounds like they've ruined a brilliant competition and hardly a word has been said. Needs to be a unified fans revolt, this is honking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, r0cafella said: Politically it’s very difficult for us to be the ones to do so. Our takeover by PIF made us unpopular, fuck them all go for it, and we’d win too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I often feel like the only reason I still force myself to bother with football at a level higher than non league is because I would miss this place such a grim and grubby spectacle these days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, OpenC said: I often feel like the only reason I still force myself to bother with football at a level higher than non league is because I would miss this place such a grim and grubby spectacle these days Modern football is such a good lens for modern day society tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheikBoom Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 If we ever entertained the idea of any other competition other than the PL and that's me firmly checked out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, OpenC said: I often feel like the only reason I still force myself to bother with football at a level higher than non league is because I would miss this place such a grim and grubby spectacle these days Its gone mental, i do often think what is the next phase of football, used be run by committees, then local business men, then millionaires, then billionaires, now its state funded investment funds and banks. What the hell is round the corner, how does some one break into it, a shocking turn of events. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, CheikBoom said: If we ever entertained the idea of any other competition other than the PL and that's me firmly checked out. Not sure whats worse, the neglect of Mike Ashley and his nonsense or this potential new league and being mega rich and not caring about who we play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I wonder where this leaves ffp? At least needs a rethink if not scrapped. Hopefully someone is ready to challenge it in court, if they aren't already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Dokko said: I wonder where this leaves ffp? At least needs a rethink if not scrapped. Hopefully someone is ready to challenge it in court, if they aren't already. Feels like it leaves FFP without a leg to stand on tbh. I mean in a business sense restricting someone’s revenue and how they invest is astonishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, WideopenMag said: Hopefully the backlash from this last time is enough to put the English clubs off at least. Think we really need to start joint protesting against the way football is being run. The new champions league changes are ridiculous, sounds like they've ruined a brilliant competition and hardly a word has been said. It primarily fell to bits last time because of fan pressure rather than any legal stuff. The usual suspects in Italy and Spain will still be bang up for it you’d imagine, probably PSG too. Be interesting to see the form it takes because the stakes are too high for Barca etc to write it off as a bad idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, christ said: It primarily fell to bits last time because of fan pressure rather than any legal stuff. The usual suspects in Italy and Spain will still be bang up for it you’d imagine, probably PSG too. Be interesting to see the form it takes because the stakes are too high for Barca etc to write it off as a bad idea. PSG are out. It enabled them to takeover the Eca. PSG essentially run European football by proxy at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 If there is one thing people can do now better than ever is protest to fuck and cancel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, christ said: It primarily fell to bits last time because of fan pressure rather than any legal stuff. The usual suspects in Italy and Spain will still be bang up for it you’d imagine, probably PSG too. Be interesting to see the form it takes because the stakes are too high for Barca etc to write it off as a bad idea. I'm not even sure how it works is this going to be instead of the champions league etc for these teams? Over wise you can't expect the other competitions to arrange their fixtures to suit this nonsense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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