The old Chris Hughton discussion thread

[Parky]

To cut a long story short he hasn;t done much wrong apart from being too conservative at home. To survive we have to start racking up home wins. The team spirit is good and Tiote is a monster in midfield. In an ideal world we will do some business in Jan for another striker with more mobility and pace.

[BottledDog]

Notice that Bellamy has come out and said we came in for him. I have to say Hughton seems to have a hell of a hitrate going for exactly the players I think we need at the time. I don't think any other manager has come close to how godamn sensible/logical this bloke is. 

 

Ok, I guess it's still early days, but it's very rare, and very very welcome.

[TRon]

Notice that Bellamy has come out and said we came in for him. I have to say Hughton seems to have a hell of a hitrate going for exactly the players I think we need at the time. I don't think any other manager has come close to how godamn sensible/logical this bloke is. 

 

Ok, I guess it's still early days, but it's very rare, and very very welcome.

 

Yep. I don't agree with his use of subs or his love of Nolan, but his signings have been top notch this season. Ben Arfa and Tiote would grace better sides than us at this point in time. Absolute class players.

[SEMTEX]

Maybe it's not Hughton doing the transfers... maybe it's someone higher up....

[Elliottman]

Notice that Bellamy has come out and said we came in for him. I have to say Hughton seems to have a hell of a hitrate going for exactly the players I think we need at the time. I don't think any other manager has come close to how godamn sensible/logical this bloke is. 

 

Ok, I guess it's still early days, but it's very rare, and very very welcome.

 

where has he said this?

[BottledDog]

Notice that Bellamy has come out and said we came in for him. I have to say Hughton seems to have a hell of a hitrate going for exactly the players I think we need at the time. I don't think any other manager has come close to how godamn sensible/logical this bloke is. 

 

Ok, I guess it's still early days, but it's very rare, and very very welcome.

 

where has he said this?

 

909 or 693 mw. Will probs be on the beebs website at some point.

[Guest Ridzuan]

I would take Bellamy back on any day. We should have gone for him during the transfer window. His great talent is being wasted at Cardiff.

[Guest Roger Kint]

I would take Bellamy back on any day. We should have gone for him during the transfer window. His great talent is being wasted at Cardiff.

 

Did you not even bother to read the post re Bellamy? 

[Guest Ridzuan]

I would take Bellamy back on any day. We should have gone for him during the transfer window. His great talent is being wasted at Cardiff.

 

Did you not even bother to read the post re Bellamy? 

 

What I meant was we should have put in more effort at getting him here.

[Guest Roger Kint]

He would have still ended up at Cardiff. The player(and more importantly his family) had theirs hearts set on going home, we dont have any clue how much effort we put in to get him, just that he wanted to go there.

[NG32]

He was never coming here, not a chance.

[LiquidAK]

Similar to how Ben Arfa had his heart set here and was never going to go anywhere else, Bellamy was going to Cardiff from day 1.

[jdckelly]

yup worth a try but he was always going to cardiff

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Similar to how Ben Arfa had his heart set here and was never going to go anywhere else, Bellamy was going to Cardiff from day 1.

 

I think it was also down to a policy from Man City of not letting their good players go to Premier League rivals. The same reason Shay Given didn't manage a move.

 

I would think that, if City had been open to it, Bellamy would have played another 1-3 seasons for a Prem team then moved to Cardiff for the last couple of years of his career later.

[David Icke - Son of God]

It may have already been covered but does anyone else think Hughton's general niceness is what has lead to use getting some shoddy refereeing decisions over the past few weeks? Think about it, when we played Everton we were on the wrong end of some hilariously bad officiating when a week earlier Moyes had a huge bust up with a referee. Against City I got the feeling Atkinson was always looking for the decision which made his life easier rather than the correct one and nine times out of ten that was to give City the benefit of the doubt. Lets face it, Mancini is much more likely to take his concerns to the media than Hughton, who was still very magnanimous after the match despite having a word or two.

 

I'm glad the club have complained about refereeing, maybe that'll make them think twice about blowing up in the opposition's favour.

[Cronky]

Referees tend to favour the home team. I don't think there's any more to be read into it.

 

It's more to do with the crowd than the manager. If a player goes down and there's a huge howl from the stands, that's instant pressure.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

It may have already been covered but does anyone else think Hughton's general niceness is what has lead to use getting some shoddy refereeing decisions over the past few weeks? Think about it, when we played Everton we were on the wrong end of some hilariously bad officiating when a week earlier Moyes had a huge bust up with a referee. Against City I got the feeling Atkinson was always looking for the decision which made his life easier rather than the correct one and nine times out of ten that was to give City the benefit of the doubt. Lets face it, Mancini is much more likely to take his concerns to the media than Hughton, who was still very magnanimous after the match despite having a word or two.

 

I'm glad the club have complained about refereeing, maybe that'll make them think twice about blowing up in the opposition's favour.

 

Probably not, but I do think he should have been a lot more angry & aggresively critical of the performance of the officials at the weekend.

[BottledDog]

It may have already been covered but does anyone else think Hughton's general niceness is what has lead to use getting some shoddy refereeing decisions over the past few weeks? Think about it, when we played Everton we were on the wrong end of some hilariously bad officiating when a week earlier Moyes had a huge bust up with a referee. Against City I got the feeling Atkinson was always looking for the decision which made his life easier rather than the correct one and nine times out of ten that was to give City the benefit of the doubt. Lets face it, Mancini is much more likely to take his concerns to the media than Hughton, who was still very magnanimous after the match despite having a word or two.

 

I'm glad the club have complained about refereeing, maybe that'll make them think twice about blowing up in the opposition's favour.

 

Probably not, but I do think he should have been a lot more angry & aggresively critical of the performance of the officials at the weekend.

 

The guy was clearly seething and the club has gone down the road of formally tackling the problem which should have a much greater chance of forcing a response. He did everything right in my book, can't stand seeing managers loosing it in the heat of the moment.

[Guest]

Similar to how Ben Arfa had his heart set here and was never going to go anywhere else, Bellamy was going to Cardiff from day 1.

 

I think it was also down to a policy from Man City of not letting their good players go to Premier League rivals. The same reason Shay Given didn't manage a move.

 

I would think that, if City had been open to it, Bellamy would have played another 1-3 seasons for a Prem team then moved to Cardiff for the last couple of years of his career later.

 

I'd have thought the opposite from City. Loan Bellamy to a mid-table/lower Premier League team and it'd increase the chances of them nicking points off City's rivals. I reckon Cardiff was his only destination regardless of Premier League interest.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

It may have already been covered but does anyone else think Hughton's general niceness is what has lead to use getting some shoddy refereeing decisions over the past few weeks? Think about it, when we played Everton we were on the wrong end of some hilariously bad officiating when a week earlier Moyes had a huge bust up with a referee. Against City I got the feeling Atkinson was always looking for the decision which made his life easier rather than the correct one and nine times out of ten that was to give City the benefit of the doubt. Lets face it, Mancini is much more likely to take his concerns to the media than Hughton, who was still very magnanimous after the match despite having a word or two.

 

I'm glad the club have complained about refereeing, maybe that'll make them think twice about blowing up in the opposition's favour.

 

Probably not, but I do think he should have been a lot more angry & aggresively critical of the performance of the officials at the weekend.

 

The guy was clearly seething and the club has gone down the road of formally tackling the problem which should have a much greater chance of forcing a response. He did everything right in my book, can't stand seeing managers loosing it in the heat of the moment.

 

I think given his normally reserved manner losing his cool may have had more of an effect on this one off occasion.

[madras]

It may have already been covered but does anyone else think Hughton's general niceness is what has lead to use getting some shoddy refereeing decisions over the past few weeks? Think about it, when we played Everton we were on the wrong end of some hilariously bad officiating when a week earlier Moyes had a huge bust up with a referee. Against City I got the feeling Atkinson was always looking for the decision which made his life easier rather than the correct one and nine times out of ten that was to give City the benefit of the doubt. Lets face it, Mancini is much more likely to take his concerns to the media than Hughton, who was still very magnanimous after the match despite having a word or two.

 

I'm glad the club have complained about refereeing, maybe that'll make them think twice about blowing up in the opposition's favour.

 

Probably not, but I do think he should have been a lot more angry & aggresively critical of the performance of the officials at the weekend.

 

The guy was clearly seething and the club has gone down the road of formally tackling the problem which should have a much greater chance of forcing a response. He did everything right in my book, can't stand seeing managers loosing it in the heat of the moment.

 

I think given his normally reserved manner losing his cool may have had more of an effect on this one off occasion.

or to take the punishment and coolly say "martin atkinson was a sick joke today and i instructed my players not to shake hands with de jong after the game, as in my opinion he deliberatly set out to injure hatem ben arfa"

[midds]

I think that publically criticising a ref sometimes backfires.

 

The next few refs we get will not want to be seen to have been swayed by a public slagging. They sometimes overcompenste and it works against you. I can see the reasoning behind it though. 

[Mick]

I think Hughton has been spot on with this and has been dignified throughout.  He doesn't need to say anything and for all we know the letter to the FA could have been his idea.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

I think that publically criticising a ref sometimes backfires.

 

The next few refs we get will not want to be seen to have been swayed by a public slagging. They sometimes overcompenste and it works against you. I can see the reasoning behind it though. 

 

Not being critical doesn't seem to be getting us anywhere.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

I think Hughton has been spot on with this and has been dignified throughout.  He doesn't need to say anything and for all we know the letter to the FA could have been his idea.

 

Fair point.