The old Chris Hughton discussion thread

[Liam Liam Liam O]

If Hughton has a set of balls he should have the players in this morning to analyse where it went wrong yesterday.

 

Well earned day off it is then.

[Cronky]

If Hughton has a set of balls he should have the players in this morning to analyse where it went wrong yesterday.

 

One of Hughton's qualities is that he doesn't over-react. Win or lose, the slate is wiped clean and he gets the players focused on the next match. Since he's been in charge, the team has always been able to shake off the odd dip in form.

 

Our two most important and least replacable players (ie Barton and Tiote) were out yesterday.

[Rebellious]

I don`t know if anyone else has picked up on this because I havn`t got time to read the whole thread but what I found disappointing was CH picking Colo and Williamson after watching them get out muscled and bullied against any physical team. How many times does it have to happen in a row for it to sink in. Its like he is afraid to change the team to suit the opposition.  I would have picked Steven Taylor and Sol Campball today. I said it before the match and was proved right.

 

Well done you. 

 

I put that in because a lot of people on here change there opinion from game to game. Just saying didn`t come to this conclusion with the benefit of hindsight.

[Guest BooBoo]

Do it all the time and it becomes worthless but an occasional bollocking after an unacceptable effort can get a positive reaction.

[Parky]

I'm worried about the indiscipline that seems to be setting in, players getting suspended in the last 3 games isn't good in a squad as bare as ours.

It is something Hughton has to address.As well as the fact that when we play the Stokes,Blackburns and Boltons of this league,Sol must start.

 

Was discussing this yesterday, it's a major problem both on and off the pitch.

 

Definately something he needs to sort out.

 

Could perhaps be to do with the departure of the iron fist No.2?

 

The manager should be the authority figure, with the deputy as the go-between.

 

Yeah but we both know he has his own style which is more to do with listening to and keeping a close bond with his players. An approach which has served him well most of the time.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

If Hughton has a set of balls he should have the players in this morning to analyse where it went wrong yesterday.

 

One of Hughton's qualities is that he doesn't over-react. Win or lose, the slate is wiped clean and he gets the players focused on the next match. Since he's been in charge, the team has always been able to shake off the odd dip in form.

 

Our two most important and least replacable players (ie Barton and Tiote) were out yesterday.

 

His biggest weakness is that he doesn't react at all.

[Guest neesy111]

If Hughton has a set of balls he should have the players in this morning to analyse where it went wrong yesterday.

 

One of Hughton's qualities is that he doesn't over-react. Win or lose, the slate is wiped clean and he gets the players focused on the next match. Since he's been in charge, the team has always been able to shake off the odd dip in form.

 

Our two most important and least replacable players (ie Barton and Tiote) were out yesterday.

 

His biggest weakness is that he doesn't react at all.

 

There is always a time for a manager to over-react even Fergie has said he still has to do the hair-drier despite changing his managerial style.

[Rebellious]

I don`t know if anyone else has picked up on this because I havn`t got time to read the whole thread but what I found disappointing was CH picking Colo and Williamson after watching them get out muscled and bullied against any physical team. How many times does it have to happen in a row for it to sink in. Its like he is afraid to change the team to suit the opposition.  I would have picked Steven Taylor and Sol Campball today. I said it before the match and was proved right.

 

Picking a combination that have never played together and who are both coming back from injury is a real gamble and probably wouldnt have worked either, albeit for different reasons.

 

The positive thing is that we can now see what Campbell can bring to the side. I think he could form a good unit with Williamson.

 

We spent years of playing a back four that hadn`t played together, a whole season once if I remember. Also spent a few years fielding players straight back from injury, its the Newcastle way j/ks. I just feel that those 2 wouldnt have got barged off the ball or forced into errors due to weakness. If we can`t bring these players back against Bolton or Blackburn who would we bring them back against ?  Even if they weren`t upto it match practise wise we wouldn`t have kissed our goal difference goodbye.

[Incognito]

Imagine if Carroll got sent off?

We can cover it in defence,I think we'd all agree,and midfield isn't so bad if Hughton picks players in their favoured positions,and not Smith.

[M4]

Johnnys been banned? I didn't want that. Tell him I drink in the Hotspur before every match. If he wants a chat and prove himself a man I'll be there. Frankly though I know the lads on here and off here who are real fans of NUFC and I've got little proof to suggest he's a genuine boy.

meaning ?

 

Im suggesting it's very easy to sit behind a keyboard and call someone a cunt. Would he have the guts to say it to my face? Of course he wouldn't.

 

Exact same could be said of you. Would you have said something like that to anyone's face? Most probably not.

[Cajun]

If Hughton has a set of balls he should have the players in this morning to analyse where it went wrong yesterday.

 

One of Hughton's qualities is that he doesn't over-react. Win or lose, the slate is wiped clean and he gets the players focused on the next match. Since he's been in charge, the team has always been able to shake off the odd dip in form.

 

Our two most important and least replacable players (ie Barton and Tiote) were out yesterday.

 

His biggest weakness is that he doesn't react at all.

 

Often in the dressing room and training ground?

 

Or should he do all his work through the media?

[Cajun]

That's what PMs are for, but I agree with most of what JH has said.

 

There's certainly a prevailing attitude on here that attaches huge significance to 1-0 wins, but sticks it head firmly in the wet sand of low expectations when we perform terribly and lose.

 

Sounds a bit like your appearances in the Colo thread

[Guest BooBoo]

M4- to be fair I've not called anyone a cunt.

 

[Liam Liam Liam O]

If Hughton has a set of balls he should have the players in this morning to analyse where it went wrong yesterday.

 

One of Hughton's qualities is that he doesn't over-react. Win or lose, the slate is wiped clean and he gets the players focused on the next match. Since he's been in charge, the team has always been able to shake off the odd dip in form.

 

Our two most important and least replacable players (ie Barton and Tiote) were out yesterday.

 

His biggest weakness is that he doesn't react at all.

 

Often in the dressing room and training ground?

 

Or should he do all his work through the media?

 

Matches too.  His inability to see something is wrong & attempt to change it is baffling.

[Guest BooBoo]

Yesterday was the first time this year where I'd question the effort. For that alone, Hughton should has issued a bollocking. His softly softy approach isn't always appropriate.

[M4]

M4- to be fair I've not called anyone a cunt.

 

 

If you said what you did to someone's face in the aftermath of a game like yesterday, just being called a cunt would be one of the better outcomes you could hope for.

 

And I also agree that being called an imposter, fake fan etc... is more offensive.

[Skirge]

I feel so sorry for him, its his job on the line but the fat fker of an owner won't back him with funds and help him so the job, surely even Ashley can see we have a piss poor thin squad and no manager in the word could work wonders with what we have.

 

I am terrified at what he will do next, if Hughton gets the boot we really are in massive trouble.

[Cajun]

In regards to him saying he doesn't want to sign anyone in January, he also said when speculation about his job was going about (well it still is but at it's peak a few weeks back) that he wasn't sure what was happening but he wanted to be here in January and the summer for negotiations and what not.

 

Pretty sure he also said last January we wouldn't sign anyone.

[Frazzle]

Yesterday was the first time this year where I'd question the effort. For that alone, Hughton should has issued a bollocking. His softly softy approach isn't always appropriate.

 

I think we have to wait for the next game before deciding whether Hughton's reaction was appropriate.

[Cronky]

If Hughton has a set of balls he should have the players in this morning to analyse where it went wrong yesterday.

 

One of Hughton's qualities is that he doesn't over-react. Win or lose, the slate is wiped clean and he gets the players focused on the next match. Since he's been in charge, the team has always been able to shake off the odd dip in form.

 

Our two most important and least replacable players (ie Barton and Tiote) were out yesterday.

 

His biggest weakness is that he doesn't react at all.

 

Often in the dressing room and training ground?

 

Or should he do all his work through the media?

 

Matches too.  His inability to see something is wrong & attempt to change it is baffling.

 

Can't we have a bit more faith in the man and his methods? He's not exactly done badly so far. In just over a year, he's taken a train wreck of a club to mid-table in the Premiership. With only a modest outlay, performances and morale have improved beyond recognition.

[Frazzle]

If Hughton has a set of balls he should have the players in this morning to analyse where it went wrong yesterday.

 

One of Hughton's qualities is that he doesn't over-react. Win or lose, the slate is wiped clean and he gets the players focused on the next match. Since he's been in charge, the team has always been able to shake off the odd dip in form.

 

Our two most important and least replacable players (ie Barton and Tiote) were out yesterday.

 

His biggest weakness is that he doesn't react at all.

 

Often in the dressing room and training ground?

 

Or should he do all his work through the media?

 

Matches too.  His inability to see something is wrong & attempt to change it is baffling.

 

Can't we have a bit more faith in the man and his methods? He's not exactly done badly so far. In just over a year, he's taken a train wreck of a club to mid-table in the Premiership. With only a modest outlay, performances and morale have improved beyond recognition.

 

But he doesn't kick off in post match interviews...

[Guest sicko2ndbest]

If its left until mid-end of January, the window will be a right off

 

No decent player worth his salt will go to a club for a manager that has no stability

[Liam Liam Liam O]

If Hughton has a set of balls he should have the players in this morning to analyse where it went wrong yesterday.

 

One of Hughton's qualities is that he doesn't over-react. Win or lose, the slate is wiped clean and he gets the players focused on the next match. Since he's been in charge, the team has always been able to shake off the odd dip in form.

 

Our two most important and least replacable players (ie Barton and Tiote) were out yesterday.

 

His biggest weakness is that he doesn't react at all.

 

Often in the dressing room and training ground?

 

Or should he do all his work through the media?

 

Matches too.  His inability to see something is wrong & attempt to change it is baffling.

 

Can't we have a bit more faith in the man and his methods? He's not exactly done badly so far. In just over a year, he's taken a train wreck of a club to mid-table in the Premiership. With only a modest outlay, performances and morale have improved beyond recognition.

 

 

As has been said for a long time, January will be a good time to judge any of that, once we've had some difficult home games to go with the easy ones we've wasted so far.

 

I'll be as happy as anyone if he proves he's the man to take us forward, but he hasn't done that as yet.  We could do without the upheaval of a new manager, but that's not a reason to stick with the one we've got if those in charge feel he's not up to it.

 

[Guest BooBoo]

Hasn't CH already said he won't be adding to the squad in January?

 

Although given the bullshit he spouted in the summer, it's difficult to know what to believe.

[colinmk]

If Hughton has a set of balls he should have the players in this morning to analyse where it went wrong yesterday.

 

One of Hughton's qualities is that he doesn't over-react. Win or lose, the slate is wiped clean and he gets the players focused on the next match. Since he's been in charge, the team has always been able to shake off the odd dip in form.

 

Our two most important and least replacable players (ie Barton and Tiote) were out yesterday.

 

His biggest weakness is that he doesn't react at all.

 

Often in the dressing room and training ground?

 

Or should he do all his work through the media?

 

Matches too.  His inability to see something is wrong & attempt to change it is baffling.

 

Can't we have a bit more faith in the man and his methods? He's not exactly done badly so far. In just over a year, he's taken a train wreck of a club to mid-table in the Premiership. With only a modest outlay, performances and morale have improved beyond recognition.

 

 

As has been said for a long time, January will be a good time to judge any of that, once we've had some difficult home games to go with the easy ones we've wasted so far.

I'll be as happy as anyone if he proves he's the man to take us forward, but he hasn't done that as yet.  We could do without the upheaval of a new manager, but that's not a reason to stick with the one we've got if those in charge feel he's not up to it.

 

 

Surely he has taken us as forward as we could possibly expect considering where the club was at and where it still is in many ways regarding the players left over from previously and the lack of cash etc? I didn't expect to win the championship with that state of a team and also didn't expect to be doing as well as we are this season not to mention some of the signings he has made on a shoestring, the general morale of the squad and the way certain players have come on leaps and bounds under him.