KaKa Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Same ol, same ol ... Not so long ago Carroll was getting ripped to shreds by the majority on here. No surprise that he has grown in confidence with each goal and started actually playing better in general. Now he's everyone's hero. I even recall a few having a go at Ranger earlier in the season, when despite playing well he never looked like scoring, but as soon as he did get one he too started to look more threatening. Enrique and Colo are now widely considered as two of our best players but Enrique's first few month people were writing him off and well what bad thing wasn't said about Colo in his first season? Hey, but life is never satisfying if there isn't something to moan or cry about is it? Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Mind you, there's been a massive improvement in the other starting strikers since we signed him. that's a good point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 The worry with Best is he doesn't even look like scoring. I can handle strikers who have a barren run but are getting in the right positions and creating things. Said it at the time and maintain it now - a complete bag of muck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 The worry with Best is he doesn't even look like scoring. I can handle strikers who have a barren run but are getting in the right positions and creating things. Said it at the time and maintain it now - a complete bag of muck. Yeah, yeah, yeah ... Look back at the Carroll and Ranger threads and the same cliche was being bandied about them also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 The worst thing about him for me is that he is keeping Ranger off the pitch more. If Hughton signed him then I hope he swallows his pride and lists him in the summer. He's an international for some reason so we could probably get the money back for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Doesn't anyone else find it strange that he is getting slagged when he's not even starting games at the moment. Don't get me wrong he may be a waste of money, and at the time I was dubious about the signing - but it's not his fault the other strikers are scoring and keeping him out of the team. In fact signing him might have a lot to do with it, as Carroll has certainly stepped up a gear. Lay off and wait until he gets a run of games before writing him off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 The worry with Best is he doesn't even look like scoring. I can handle strikers who have a barren run but are getting in the right positions and creating things. Said it at the time and maintain it now - a complete bag of muck. Yeah, yeah, yeah ... Look back at the Carroll and Ranger threads and the same cliche was being bandied about them also. http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,67418.msg2181292.html#msg2181292 I was also said his movement was dreadful after his debut in early Feb. Lovenkrands apart, none of them have great movement but at least with Carroll and Ranger they have inexperience as an excuse and are improving. Best should be pretty much the finished product that just needs to adapt to his new team mates and new surroundings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Doesn't anyone else find it strange that he is getting slagged when he's not even starting games at the moment. Don't get me wrong he may be a waste of money, and at the time I was dubious about the signing - but it's not his fault the other strikers are scoring and keeping him out of the team. In fact signing him might have a lot to do with it, as Carroll has certainly stepped up a gear. Lay off and wait until he gets a run of games before writing him off. Same story every single time though isn't it? Some sort of paranoid defense mechanism thing people have going on. You can never reason with them over their totally irrational stance either. You'll likely just get abused or mocked. The same rubbishing of Jonas, Enrique, Colo, Loven, Carroll all took place at some point. To some degree disparaging remarks were even thrown at the likes of Guthrie and Simpson. Standard procedure really. Still extremely frustrating and disappointing every time though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Seriously, though. Has he had a shot yet? That offside header doesn't count. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Doesn't anyone else find it strange that he is getting slagged when he's not even starting games at the moment. Don't get me wrong he may be a waste of money, and at the time I was dubious about the signing - but it's not his fault the other strikers are scoring and keeping him out of the team. In fact signing him might have a lot to do with it, as Carroll has certainly stepped up a gear. Lay off and wait until he gets a run of games before writing him off. Same story every single time though isn't it? Some sort of paranoid defense mechanism thing people have going on. You can never reason with them over their totally irrational stance either. You'll likely just get abused or mocked. The same rubbishing of Jonas, Enrique, Colo, Loven, Carroll all took place at some point. To some degree disparaging remarks were even thrown at the likes of Guthrie and Simpson. Standard procedure really. Still extremely frustrating and disappointing every time though. Mental. Did you even watch the game man? The guy gets stick cos he's fucking rubbish. The players you've listed didn't get it from all four corners cos they were never as bad as this guy at what they do. The fact that our strikers have improved has got nothing to do with his footballing ability, by the way. It's just the fact there's more competition in the squad - it's a testiment to the mental ability of the likes of Lovenkrands and Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Seriously, though. Has he had a shot yet? That offside header doesn't count. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/8565371.stm 86:55 Leon Best takes a shot. Save made by Joe Murphy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Doesn't anyone else find it strange that he is getting slagged when he's not even starting games at the moment. Don't get me wrong he may be a waste of money, and at the time I was dubious about the signing - but it's not his fault the other strikers are scoring and keeping him out of the team. In fact signing him might have a lot to do with it, as Carroll has certainly stepped up a gear. Lay off and wait until he gets a run of games before writing him off. Same story every single time though isn't it? Some sort of paranoid defense mechanism thing people have going on. You can never reason with them over their totally irrational stance either. You'll likely just get abused or mocked. The same rubbishing of Jonas, Enrique, Colo, Loven, Carroll all took place at some point. To some degree disparaging remarks were even thrown at the likes of Guthrie and Simpson. Standard procedure really. Still extremely frustrating and disappointing every time though. Some people criticised Jonas, some didn't Some people criticised Enrique, some didn't Some people criticised Colo, some didn't Some people criticised Loven, some didn't Some people criticised Carroll, some didn't Some people criticised Guthrie, some didn't Some people criticised Simpson, some didn't Everyone criticises Best................ See if you can work it out for yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Doesn't anyone else find it strange that he is getting slagged when he's not even starting games at the moment. Don't get me wrong he may be a waste of money, and at the time I was dubious about the signing - but it's not his fault the other strikers are scoring and keeping him out of the team. In fact signing him might have a lot to do with it, as Carroll has certainly stepped up a gear. Lay off and wait until he gets a run of games before writing him off. Same story every single time though isn't it? Some sort of paranoid defense mechanism thing people have going on. You can never reason with them over their totally irrational stance either. You'll likely just get abused or mocked. The same rubbishing of Jonas, Enrique, Colo, Loven, Carroll all took place at some point. To some degree disparaging remarks were even thrown at the likes of Guthrie and Simpson. Standard procedure really. Still extremely frustrating and disappointing every time though. Some people criticised Jonas, some didn't Some people criticised Enrique, some didn't Some people criticised Colo, some didn't Some people criticised Loven, some didn't Some people criticised Carroll, some didn't Some people criticised Guthrie, some didn't Some people criticised Simpson, some didn't Everyone criticises Best................ See if you can work it out for yourself The other six have some degree of talent which makes them defendable perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Pity he didn't take the #9 shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Pity he didn't take the #9 shirt. Was just about to say that, he was offered it but didn't want it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Pity he didn't take the #9 shirt. Was just about to say that, he was offered it but didn't want it. Wasn't it the other way around? He wanted it and Hughton said it has to be earned? Don't know if I'm right or wrong here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Pity he didn't take the #9 shirt. Was just about to say that, he was offered it but didn't want it. Wasn't it the other way around? He wanted it and Hughton said it has to be earned? Don't know if I'm right or wrong here... That was what CH said in the media, but my uncle showed me an email from Billy Scott at the Northern Echo, from a few days after Best signed, saying he was offered it but refused to take it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Pity he didn't take the #9 shirt. Was just about to say that, he was offered it but didn't want it. Wasn't it the other way around? He wanted it and Hughton said it has to be earned? Don't know if I'm right or wrong here... That was what CH said in the media, but my uncle showed me an email from Billy Scott at the Northern Echo, from a few days after Best signed, saying he was offered it but refused to take it. Oh, didn't know that. Showes that only Best himself knew that he is shit the time we signed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 There is absolutely no way a player can play like he has and then suddenly become good. Players need time to gel, others go through barron spells, but a shit player doesn't suddenly become good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 The amount of shit this guy gets is astounding. He's a player for Newcastle United, get behind him ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 The amount of shit this guy gets is astounding. He's a player for Newcastle United, get behind him ffs. Youre right, its still early days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 The amount of shit this guy gets is astounding. He's a player for Newcastle United, get behind him ffs. If i were going to the match, sitting there and vociferously booing every touch he has - then that comment would be justified. I'm not, i'm saying "go on" and "additional generic encouragement", then coming home and whinging my arse off on the internet. Which is and always will be ay-ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 The amount of s*** this guy gets is astounding. He's a player for Newcastle United, get behind him ffs. Aye, Carroll's a Newcastle player too isn't he?... The sooner we get this chump away from our club the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 The amount of s*** this guy gets is astounding. He's a player for Newcastle United, get behind him ffs. Aye, Carroll's a Newcastle player too isn't he?... The sooner we get this chump away from our club the better. To my knowledge, Best has never glassed anyone in a bar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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