Stu Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Stu is spot on; the team still has a lot to do before it can start writing off the likes of Stoke and FulhamBlackpool as crap. Thankfully I dont think Hughton will fall into the trap of thinking teams with smaller support are going to be pushovers this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tall Striker Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 7.5/10 3 from NUFC, Blackpool, West Brom, Wigan and West Ham will go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Don´t understand why I´m reading this forum everyday, it is just doom and gloom. One bad result and we are down. well we does not even have to play. it is enough that a team like Wigan, Stoke, West Brom, win there game or something and we are down. Give me a brake the PL is close. everyone can basically beat everyone and that will happen. we think that blackpool and west brom at home is the only games we can get points, the rest of them is unnecessary to play. read the everton thread for example. we lost to blackpool. why can´t we get a point at everton? we are not that bad. btw. why are we unacceptable to win matches and no one else? God, I wish I could stop reading this forum for the weekends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 There's been like two replies to this thread since the Blackpool match, and one of them was Stu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Don´t understand why I´m reading this forum everyday, it is just doom and gloom. One bad result and we are down. Yeah, but one good result and we're great again, there's an upside too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 There's been like two replies to this thread since the Blackpool match, and one of them was Stu. more the feeling about everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Don´t understand why I´m reading this forum everyday, it is just doom and gloom. One bad result and we are down. Yeah, but one good result and we're great again, there's an upside too! absolutely win vs Everton and the championship thread will bump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Relegation-ometer. Bleurgh. Cobblers, man. Will we go down? Yes No Answer: no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 There's been like two replies to this thread since the Blackpool match, and one of them was Stu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 We should be ok, but I do worry about our ability to defeat the likes of Stoke and West Ham at home. And no doubt we'll find a way to lose at Wigan again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I think the first part of the season is really important as we seem to be playing a lot of our relegation rivals at home and the tougher teams away so if we are struggling badly come the New Year when that is reversed and we play the top teams at home and our relegation rivals away, I would start to worry. That is one of the reasons why the Blackpool result was so disappointing for me as I feel we need to pick up as many points at home as we can. West Brom have also started well and people who have watched them think they will stay up. West Ham look dodgy at the moment but if they changed the manager and got someone like O'Neill in, I would be confident of them staying up. Early days, but it looks like the relegation battle will be pretty competitive this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I think the first part of the season is really important as we seem to be playing a lot of our relegation rivals at home and the tougher teams away so if we are struggling badly come the New Year when that is reversed and we play the top teams at home and our relegation rivals away, I would start to worry. That is one of the reasons why the Blackpool result was so disappointing for me as I feel we need to pick up as many points at home as we can. West Brom have also started well and people who have watched them think they will stay up. West Ham look dodgy at the moment but if they changed the manager and got someone like O'Neill in, I would be confident of them staying up. Early days, but it looks like the relegation battle will be pretty competitive this year. I couldn't agree more... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Well. we are not the only team to get beat by Blackpool. Come to feb-mar before I will start looking at the table closely and start panicking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tall Striker Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I think the first part of the season is really important as we seem to be playing a lot of our relegation rivals at home and the tougher teams away so if we are struggling badly come the New Year when that is reversed and we play the top teams at home and our relegation rivals away, I would start to worry. That is one of the reasons why the Blackpool result was so disappointing for me as I feel we need to pick up as many points at home as we can. West Brom have also started well and people who have watched them think they will stay up. West Ham look dodgy at the moment but if they changed the manager and got someone like O'Neill in, I would be confident of them staying up. Early days, but it looks like the relegation battle will be pretty competitive this year. Spot on. We need to be a good ten points clear of our relegation rivals come Christmas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Last time around we were unable to beat the likes of Stoke at home, or even take a point from others like Fulham at home. Almost every game was a bad result. This time around we just need to be able to hang onto to those 2 extra points at home to the likes of Stoke etc. I think 35 is not where the line for relegation is, however we need to look at around 40-45 and I think we are capable of getting that many points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 That's the most unsettling thing about the Blackpool result; the fact that it's achingly similar to those games at home to Hull, Wigan, Stoke, Mackems... the games which sent us down really. But when you can highlight the comparison there... was there anything in 08/09 akin to the mauling of Villa, or even the determined result at Wolves? Maybe one or two, we got a couple of reasonable draws with JFK, but they were so obviously one-offs. Now we look like a team who can rightfully earn those sorts of victories now. I can't claim i expected us to knock six past Villa, but i do expect us to give those sorts of team performances. Two seasons ago, a good team performance came as a surprise more than anything. It's early days and the Blackpool game has inevitably given us all a bit of a fright. However, i would veer away from making comparisons to last time - we're a completely different kettle of fish this year. I'm in the 'it wasn't our day' parade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 That's the most unsettling thing about the Blackpool result; the fact that it's achingly similar to those games at home to Hull, Wigan, Stoke, Mackems... the games which sent us down really. But when you can highlight the comparison there... was there anything in 08/09 akin to the mauling of Villa, or even the determined result at Wolves? Maybe one or two, we got a couple of reasonable draws with JFK, but they were so obviously one-offs. Now we look like a team who can rightfully earn those sorts of victories now. I can't claim i expected us to knock six past Villa, but i do expect us to give those sorts of team performances. Two seasons ago, a good team performance came as a surprise more than anything. It's early days and the Blackpool game has inevitably given us all a bit of a fright. However, i would veer away from making comparisons to last time - we're a completely different kettle of fish this year. I'm in the 'it wasn't our day' parade. I dont think it was as bad, we created chances against blackpool. My main worry was everying we did was looking for caroll and we were crrying nolan and smith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Exactly. Blackpool was 'just' a defeat. Those games back in 08/09 weren't just defeats, they were so much more. Just another cog in the downward spiral of inevitability. We'll bounce back from this, but Everton's going to be rock hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I think the first part of the season is really important as we seem to be playing a lot of our relegation rivals at home and the tougher teams away so if we are struggling badly come the New Year when that is reversed and we play the top teams at home and our relegation rivals away, I would start to worry. That is one of the reasons why the Blackpool result was so disappointing for me as I feel we need to pick up as many points at home as we can. West Brom have also started well and people who have watched them think they will stay up. West Ham look dodgy at the moment but if they changed the manager and got someone like O'Neill in, I would be confident of them staying up. Early days, but it looks like the relegation battle will be pretty competitive this year. This - well thought-out post . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 We're exactly where I thought we'd be after 4 games- sitting with 4 points although I expected us to lose to Villa and beat Blackpool. I did it for the entire season and had us finishing with 40 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 That's the most unsettling thing about the Blackpool result; the fact that it's achingly similar to those games at home to Hull, Wigan, Stoke, Mackems... the games which sent us down really. But when you can highlight the comparison there... was there anything in 08/09 akin to the mauling of Villa, or even the determined result at Wolves? Maybe one or two, we got a couple of reasonable draws with JFK, but they were so obviously one-offs. Now we look like a team who can rightfully earn those sorts of victories now. I can't claim i expected us to knock six past Villa, but i do expect us to give those sorts of team performances. Two seasons ago, a good team performance came as a surprise more than anything. It's early days and the Blackpool game has inevitably given us all a bit of a fright. However, i would veer away from making comparisons to last time - we're a completely different kettle of fish this year. I'm in the 'it wasn't our day' parade. Whilst I agree with where you're coming from, I think the whole 'it wasn't our day' thing is a complete myth. You make it 'your day' through the way you play. The reason we didn't win was because we were poor at finishing and defending - we played Blackpool next week and played the same way and we'd still lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Agreed. *I'm in the 'it was just a bad day at the office' parade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I'm not going to use the "it wasn't our day" excuse, but we didn't play poorly to be honest, and 2nd half we made chances that could have won us the game. 1 possotive is that hopefully Smith can be dropped for these kinds of games now, I think the likes of Stoke & Wolves are where he should be a starter, games where we are fored into a physical battle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 We're exactly where I thought we'd be after 4 games- sitting with 4 points although I expected us to lose to Villa and beat Blackpool. I did it for the entire season and had us finishing with 40 points. So you predicted 2 out of 4 results incorrectly and this is supposed to instil confidence in your predictive ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I think there's 3 worse teams and enough teams of a similar standard to at least compete with so I'm going with a 5 at the moment. West Ham look certs, the Blackpool bubble will burst soon enough, still not convinced by either of Wigan or WBA despite a couple of good results lately and I don't think we're that far off the likes of Wolves, Sunderland and Blackburn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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