Dave Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Can't see anyone getting depressed or sharpening their pitchforks. There would be nothing wrong with Pardew saying he knew what his budget was without revealing it. That wouldn't push prices up at all. What's strange (and worrying to some) is that he appears to be still unaware of what he has to spend, or that he has work to do to convince the owner to release some funds. Of course it would man. If he'd announced a budget of £25m and we still hadn't identified/succeeded in our targets by late August we'd be shafted by clubs knowing we still had that money sitting there waiting to be spent. Same if we went in for a player early doors too, mind. If we play it clever we could get far better deals this summer without announcing our budget. We picked up Tiote for £3.5m and Ben Arfa for £5m this season. Genuine quality for what, in this day and age, is peanuts for International class players. It serves no purpose for anybody at the club to announce how much we have/don't have to spend, what good could it possibly do? I'm not sure how transfer deals work (I'm sure it's not as easy as it is on FM) but if a player comes available who we're interested in and we speak (privately) to the club and tell them we have, for arguments sake, £7m left of our seasons budget, they could become interested to sell at that price. Whereas if we say we have £15m left they could say "We'll sell to you for £10m". Just can't see how it would benefit anybody other than those impatient enough to want to know our budget, and the selling clubs. Did you misread my post? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Aye, see above! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Aye, see above! I doubt anyone expects him to come out and go 'we have £25m to spend' etc, I just think what's spooking people (who are naturally still suspicious about the club's direction) are comments from Pardew which suggest he doesn't even know himself. That would be more than a bit worrying at this stage IMO, you'd think he'd know the plan for the summer before he even took the job, let alone when Carroll was sold. Unless he has no control over it whatsoever... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Can't see anyone getting depressed or sharpening their pitchforks. "trying to get him to spend" f*** off man. Ashley promised reinvestment, so should deliver on it, the fat lying prick. Mustn't have looked very far then Dave. There would be nothing wrong with Pardew saying he knew what his budget was without revealing it. That wouldn't push prices up at all. What's strange (and worrying to some) is that he appears to be still unaware of what he has there is to spend, or that he has work to do to convince the owner to release some funds. Agree he could say he knows his budget, but if he didn't explicitly state "My budget is £Xm" then people would still whinge. There's honestly people here (Probably like chubby, above) who will only be happy if Pardew said "My budget is £25m" just so that they know there's a certain amount to spend so they can then decide whether they're happy with that or not, irrespective of the damage that would do to our intentions in the transfer market over the coming months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 After the Carroll scenario he's probably not going to make a guarantee that he's not 100% sure he can keep. I think he'll bring in N'Zogbia, Ireland and a striker then look to replace Campbell and Enrique if they leave. I would be surprised if we are still ion for Ireland tbh, and if it was me a right back would be on the list. We've got three at the club but none of them are up to much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Can't see anyone getting depressed or sharpening their pitchforks. "trying to get him to spend" f*** off man. Ashley promised reinvestment, so should deliver on it, the fat lying prick. Mustn't have looked very far then Dave. There would be nothing wrong with Pardew saying he knew what his budget was without revealing it. That wouldn't push prices up at all. What's strange (and worrying to some) is that he appears to be still unaware of what he has there is to spend, or that he has work to do to convince the owner to release some funds. Agree he could say he knows his budget, but if he didn't explicitly state "My budget is £Xm" then people would still whinge. There's honestly people here (Probably like chubby, above) who will only be happy if Pardew said "My budget is £25m" just so that they know there's a certain amount to spend so they can then decide whether they're happy with that or not, irrespective of the damage that would do to our intentions in the transfer market over the coming months. No. The fact he he obviously doesn't know how much he has and the fact he having to "convince" Ashley to spend is what's worrying. He shouldn't have to convince him of anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 ffs we brought more than 4 in last summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 ffs we brought more than 4 in last summer Id be happy with four signings if they were of an adequate enough quality and there were no departures. I think four signings is a realistic expectation this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 What does anything Pardew says at this moment in time regarding transfers actually matter? They all play this game at this time of year - throwing out non-committal soundbites about the number of new faces they want to bring in and acting all coy about their progress in the market. Managers aren't judged on what they say to the press before the window opens, they're judged on who they buy. I, not being a complete fuckwit, will wait until the summer and see what happens rather than throwing a hissy about some throw away quotes in the local rags. Please join me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 What does anything Pardew says at this moment in time regarding transfers actually matter? They all play this game at this time of year - throwing out non-committal soundbites about the number of new faces they want to bring in and acting all coy about their progress in the market. Managers aren't judged on what they say to the press before the window opens, they're judged on who they buy. I, not being a complete fuckwit, will wait until the summer and see what happens rather than throwing a hissy about some throw away quotes in the local rags. Please join me. I'll sign up to that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest taps01 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 What does anything Pardew says at this moment in time regarding transfers actually matter? They all play this game at this time of year - throwing out non-committal soundbites about the number of new faces they want to bring in and acting all coy about their progress in the market. Managers aren't judged on what they say to the press before the window opens, they're judged on who they buy. I, not being a complete fuckwit, will wait until the summer and see what happens rather than throwing a hissy about some throw away quotes in the local rags. Please join me. Im wth you on that one. Lets see what state the squad is in come the end of August. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 4 first team signings, or 2 first team signings with 2 exciting prospects signings who would be pushing on to be first team players would be decent window imo. We defiantly need a goal scoring striker (not cole) and a younger backup for Ben Arfa to play in the hole behind our main striker, because at the moment we don't know how he will play next season after the injury and I'd rather not have to rely on any of current strikers should he have another set back. Regardless of how much money we have to spend we will never sort out all our problems in one window, so it would be a decent step forward for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 May mean fuck all but I remember the Mirror's Darren Lewis was first to break the news of the Carroll deal finally being done on deadline day. So I'll not dismiss the Cole story until there's a denial from Pardew. I could see how such a deal may move to the top of Llambias's little list. It'll be a very easy deal to do. We can drive a hard bargain, get him cheap and the player would jump at the chance to come. There is the issue of the player's age, but they may be willing to forego that in order to strike a "bargain". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 What does anything Pardew says at this moment in time regarding transfers actually matter? They all play this game at this time of year - throwing out non-committal soundbites about the number of new faces they want to bring in and acting all coy about their progress in the market. Managers aren't judged on what they say to the press before the window opens, they're judged on who they buy. I, not being a complete fuckwit, will wait until the summer and see what happens rather than throwing a hissy about some throw away quotes in the local rags. Please join me. Nah, fuck that! Sounds rubbish! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/03/04/alan-pardew-we-ll-sign-four-or-five-players-72703-28280058/ http://www.eatsleepsport.com/newcastle-united/pardew-reveals-transfer-hope-1214311.html Doesn't sound very confident, and i think we need more than 4 players. well it's down to quality isnt it, 4 players going straight into the first team would be great imo. i believe you have to do these things gradually as its best for the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 aye its not so much "it will be " as " i hope it will be" he's obviously learned from the carroll sale then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 4 players is about right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 What does anything Pardew says at this moment in time regarding transfers actually matter? They all play this game at this time of year - throwing out non-committal soundbites about the number of new faces they want to bring in and acting all coy about their progress in the market. Managers aren't judged on what they say to the press before the window opens, they're judged on who they buy. I, not being a complete fuckwit, will wait until the summer and see what happens rather than throwing a hissy about some throw away quotes in the local rags. Please join me. I agree with all of that except the bit in bold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I'm going by what Pardew said approximately 1 Feb. Along the lines of: "I have sought assurances from the owner that the £35m will be reinvested in the squad. That would be spent on wages as well, not just transfer fees." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Again, not sure who's supposed to be throwing a hissy fit but whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Again, not sure who's supposed to be throwing a hissy fit but whatever. Is this a direct quote from Mean Girls, starring Lindsay Lohan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 You tell me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Again, not sure who's supposed to be throwing a hissy fit but whatever. Is this a direct quote from Mean Girls, starring Lindsay Lohan? It stars Lindsay Lohan!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Anyone collated Pardew's transfer purchases from previous clubs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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