Guest Benarfanufc10 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 He could play the position mata/sturridge played today when everyone is fit. Start wide but with license to drift inside exactly because chelsea as nufc they are collective bad (without tiote) Where statistics player game possession loss ball ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Was very very poor today. Seems to always want that extra touch which he cant afford in the PL. He needs to learn this and quick if he is going to be a success with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 It's a non-issue for me, i don't see the confusion. Ben Arfa is struggling to get any sort of momentum back in his game, probably for a mixture of three reasons. Firstly, although it's hard to tell he's probably not fully fit, however it shouldn't be an excuse on it's own because alot of players can come straight back onto form but you can't ignore the fact that he has been out for a year and still only started a handful of games. He needs time and alot of it before he will get anywhere near his top form. Secondly, he's lacking confidence. Anybody who's played any sort of sport/game well will tell you that after a period out you just struggle to reach the same heights. Not always through fitness but also through mental rustyness. The guy needs to start thinking like he used before he will start playing like he used to. He needs to rediscover that "eye of the tiger". Lastly and most importantly, in order to overcome my first two points, he needs to get more time on the ball. He's not getting it enough at the moment, therefore when he does get the ball he is rushing himself. Perhaps he needs some time on wing, where he can run at a player without the same risk of losing the ball in a vital area. Right now he's receiving the ball in horrible positions, with his back to goal or from knock downs, hardly ideal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 It's a non-issue for me, i don't see the confusion. Ben Arfa is struggling to get any sort of momentum back in his game, probably for a mixture of three reasons. Firstly, although it's hard to tell he's probably not fully fit, however it shouldn't be an excuse on it's own because alot of players can come straight back onto form but you can't ignore the fact that he has been out for a year and still only started a handful of games. He needs time and alot of it before he will get anywhere near his top form. Secondly, he's lacking confidence. Anybody who's played any sort of sport/game well will tell you that after a period out you just struggle to reach the same heights. Not always through fitness but also through mental rustyness. The guy needs to start thinking like he used before he will start playing like he used to. He needs to rediscover that "eye of the tiger". Lastly and most importantly, in order to overcome my first two points, he needs to get more time on the ball. He's not getting it enough at the moment, therefore when he does get the ball he is rushing himself. Perhaps he needs some time on wing, where he can run at a player without the same risk of losing the ball in a vital area. Right now he's receiving the ball in horrible positions, with his back to goal or from knock downs, hardly ideal. Good post. He is getting caught in possession a few times but I still think he's finding his feet again and needs to get match fitness over a couple of months. It's not an issue for me either because I still see a quality player in there and I'm sure he'll find his niche given time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Good posts from some,he needs time. Leaving Lovenkrands on the pitch instead of HBA was a horrendous call,especially with Obertan on the other side. Howay Alan,we need one winger who can do something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Good posts from some,he needs time. Leaving Lovenkrands on the pitch instead of HBA was a horrendous call,especially with Obertan on the other side. Howay Alan,we need one winger who can do something. What was Barfa doing to justify staying on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I can see why Pards wanted to go with two strikers, Chelsea couldn't handle one. HBA was hit and miss, he nearly created a goal when we hit the post though. Let's not forget his return to the team has been in three of the toughest games in the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Chelsea were there for the taking, man. So many excuses for the lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I'm actually wondering what he done wrong today ? Biggest crime was not getting enough of the ball. I don't remember him doing too much wrong though when he had the ball? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Aye, flicked past a comment that said no one knew what he was going to do or where he was going to send the ball, don't recall too many misplaced passes or fuck ups. When he had the ball in the middle, I seem to remember him holding onto the ball, releasing it well out wide, just a shame we had shit wingers, same with some of the sublime balls from Cabaye and Guthrie. He wasn't great, but I don't recall him being any more of a detriment to the team than anyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benarfanufc10 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Chelsea were there for the taking, man. So many excuses for the lad. What if you find it is not appropriate for your team sell in January Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Why would I want to sell him? Nobody would pay a penny. Plus, I want him in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 He didn't do much wrong at all IMO, sometimes he has to hold onto the ball longer than other players because he's waitin for the opportunity to play a killer pass. For that, sometimes you have to let the game develop. Slightly disappointed he hasn't exploded to life quite yet, but these have been three tough games an expectations on hm are sky high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Slightly disappointed he hasn't exploded to life quite yet, but these have been three tough games an expectations on hm are sky high. Doesn't help much when you (and others) call him world class, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Slightly disappointed he hasn't exploded to life quite yet, but these have been three tough games an expectations on hm are sky high. Doesn't help much when you (and others) call him world class, like. It doesn't help when you say daft stuff like Chelsea were there for the taking either. They could have scored 8 in case you didn't notice, they still have some players who are too good for our crap players to handle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Slightly disappointed he hasn't exploded to life quite yet, but these have been three tough games an expectations on hm are sky high. Doesn't help much when you (and others) call him world class, like. Wow, how pointless and irrelevant. FWIW my opinion is that he's capable of world class play, but I don't expect him to produce it straight away gainst the best teams in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 How he's getting criticism is beyond me. We were son one dimensional when he went off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Slightly disappointed he hasn't exploded to life quite yet, but these have been three tough games an expectations on hm are sky high. Doesn't help much when you (and others) call him world class, like. It doesn't help when you say daft stuff like Chelsea were there for the taking either. They could have scored 8 in case you didn't notice, they still have some players who are too good for our crap players to handle. We could have beaten that Chelsea side today. A terrible team selection, stupid tactics, missed chances and abysmal defending cost us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Im a bit of ben arfa fanboy, but today was his most nonexistant half hes had for us. Was rightly subbed but hell need time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 How he's getting criticism is beyond me. We were son one dimensional when he went off We were the same when he was on the pitch, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 How he's getting criticism is beyond me. We were son one dimensional when he went off We were far better when Shola came on for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 How he's getting criticism is beyond me. We were son one dimensional when he went off We were far better when Shola came on for him. We were, but we soon ran out of ideas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 He didn't do much wrong at all IMO, sometimes he has to hold onto the ball longer than other players because he's waitin for the opportunity to play a killer pass. For that, sometimes you have to let the game develop. Slightly disappointed he hasn't exploded to life quite yet, but these have been three tough games an expectations on hm are sky high. yeah he didn't do anything wrong, but he didn't do much right either. Just quiet. Someone like Obertan on the other hand didn't do much right, but also did a hell of a lot wrong, and that's what you call a bad performance. i wouldn't be disappointed in how he performed - it will take him a few months to fully get back into the swing of things. Look at how ramsey struggled when he first came back, had to go out on loan to the championship. and even at the start of this season, while he had some good touches, he wasn't stringing them into full length performances. only after that he did really start to perform as we know he could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Daft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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