Dave Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 From September: He likes the group and he trusts us. Now it is a matter of when he is ready. He shows flashes of brilliance in training, but I want him to do it more often before I bring him in. Realistically, he knows he has got more to do on the training ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 If Pardew is more impressed by effort than genuine ability then he wants to take a look at me servicing my lass. Casanova I am not but by lordy do I try. Whilst a gaelic charmer with a 10" knob and immaculate tekkers sulks on the chez longe in the corner of your bedroom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 MsiDouglas Mark Douglas Just been informed it's Tuesday's Journal for HBA! Such a big story they're keeping it til Tuesday. Ahh but Douglas has just said its a good story, not a bad one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Hopefully we will sell him in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Hopefully we will sell him in January. Aye! Hopfully! Can't wait to see us lose more players and make the squad EVEN thinner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Hopefully we will sell him in January. Best case scenario that like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Hopefully we will sell him in January. why ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Shame to see such a waste of talent on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Shame to see such a waste of talent on the bench. agreed then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 We'll not sell him as we won't make a profit at the moment. Although guessing that he is on big wages getting rid of him could be fapworthy anyway if it gets that wage bill down. Wonder what the board think of it all given Dekka's comments in the gastropub about Hughtons alleged appreciation of HBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I just can't understand how Obertan plays ahead of him. Then Sammy comes on instead of him. Sammy is a top guy but personally I don't think he's ready for the top level yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I wonder if Pardew is doing with Ben Arfa, what he did with Tevez and Mascherano at West Ham. Worrying, if so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 and what was he doing with Tevez and Mascherano? I know he didn't play them but I don't know his reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 If Pardew is serious about never playing him on the wing then he's simply not going to be starting that many games IMO, particularly if we buy another striker to partner Ba as was seemingly the plan. I've no doubts whatsoever that when he came here in the first place he was confident he'd be playing every week, otherwise why agree to join a newly-promoted club that many expected to struggle? Worried about this eventually causing problems within the camp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I wonder if Pardew is doing with Ben Arfa, what he did with Tevez and Mascherano at West Ham. Worrying, if so. Not sure I understand, those two were forced upon him (still doesn't excuse him not playing them but the situation was different). Ben Arfa was already here so if he is going to randomly leave him out why not someone like Tiote too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 If Pardew is serious about never playing him on the wing then he's simply not going to be starting that many games IMO, particularly if we buy another striker to partner Ba as was seemingly the plan. I've no doubts whatsoever that when he came here in the first place he was confident he'd be playing every week, otherwise why agree to join a newly-promoted club that many expected to struggle? Worried about this eventually causing problems within the camp. Yup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The decision to sign HBA permanently was made during the Pardew reign so technically he is his player otherwise why would we have bought him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Yeah thats another reason I'd just get rid of him in Jan. Lost a lot of respect for Pardew after the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 and what was he doing with Tevez and Mascherano? I know he didn't play them but I don't know his reasons. Benched them and basically used them as scapegoats even though the rest of the West Ham squad thought they were world class players. It seems we could be witnessing similar scenes, as it seems Pardew doesn't accept quality players who have a bit of an ego. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 If Pardew is serious about never playing him on the wing then he's simply not going to be starting that many games IMO, particularly if we buy another striker to partner Ba as was seemingly the plan. I've no doubts whatsoever that when he came here in the first place he was confident he'd be playing every week, otherwise why agree to join a newly-promoted club that many expected to struggle? Worried about this eventually causing problems within the camp. thats why i've always had my doubts over playing 2 up front. always thought it would be ba (suspect knees) or other (maiga type), ben arfa,marveaux then midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 What Messi said. I think Mascherano only played 2 games or something, whilst at West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 and what was he doing with Tevez and Mascherano? I know he didn't play them but I don't know his reasons. Benched them and basically used them as scapegoats even though the rest of the West Ham squad thought they were world class players. It seems we could be witnessing similar scenes, as it seems Pardew doesn't accept quality players who have a bit of an ego. Makes you wonder why he signed him then, or why we are apparently targetting Maiga. I have probably missed something really obvious but is Masc someone known for having a bit of an ego? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 He's a bit of cunt but like Tevez usually knuckles down on the field. I'd say to be fair to Pardew it is more than normal for South American players coming direct to England tend to be eased in slowly as it's a steep learning curve and a massively different style (especially given that they came from Corinthians in Brazial) but when the other option was Hayden Mullins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 In fairness to Pardew, the injury to Ben Arfa in America probably fucked over his plans completely. By the time he was fit again, we'd been doing great with a conventional 4-4-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 and what was he doing with Tevez and Mascherano? I know he didn't play them but I don't know his reasons. Benched them and basically used them as scapegoats even though the rest of the West Ham squad thought they were world class players. It seems we could be witnessing similar scenes, as it seems Pardew doesn't accept quality players who have a bit of an ego. Makes you wonder why he signed him then, or why we are apparently targetting Maiga. I have probably missed something really obvious but is Masc someone known for having a bit of an ego? He's a very fiesty character who wouldn't be shy about voicing an opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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