olliemort Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Sad used to be my favourite player here.Im afraid the days of a tough tackler are over and he knows It so he has fuck all else to do except give the ball away time and time again.I think we actually missed Guthrie this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I think we should be giving Anita a go in the side now. Play him behind Cabaye, let Yohan get further up to put some good balls through to our forwards and hopefully we can start creating more clear cut chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I just think we need 3 in central midfield, no combination of two really works. I think Sissoko, Cabaye and Anita could work, although Marveaux would lose out or need to be accommodated elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I think at the moment it should Perch. Without meaning any offence to him, that says it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Just needs to do what he used to do under Hughton and initially under Pardew. He's an asset to the squad if he's that kind of player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Tiote was a revelation when he was first signed under Hughton - he has gone steadily downhill under Pardew's managment, and it is no coincidence to me that other players we signed in January have also declined since joining the club. There HAS to be a connection and if Ferguson wanted to sign Tiote last season but was put off by the 20m fee, he must have seen something in the player. I don't believe the Tiote we saw making his debut against Everton has suddenly lost his strengths of winning the ball, being available for a pass, and then passing sensibly and accurately....remember, SBR got Shearer scoring again almost immediately after taking over from Gullit because he saw that the player wasn't using the strengths he possessed...all down to the manager..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 If only we'd sold him when he was attracting interest from top clubs. Now he's worth buttons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LeMacaron Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Starting against Sunderland seems like such a foolish decision given his discipline in a 'normal' match let alone a local derby, and his performances this year barely warrants a place on the bench. Seriously needs to up his game of gtfo in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I thought starting him against Sunderland was an OK plan. In fact, if he'd been more physical it would have been much better. Someone like Anita would have been totally overrun. Not that Tiote wasn't like, but you see what I mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 He's an absolute fraud like. Everything positive he does is completely negated by his lack of discipline and inability to keep possession. Waste of a shirt, waste of a 'purple'. We can definitely find better for his position from the cheapo French bargain bin. There'll still be sides willing to pay around £8m for Tiote IMO and we could probably get an upgrade for half of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I actually thought he was one of our better players at the weekend - he's certainly the only one I remember actually tackling anyone. Although I was pretty pissed mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I actually thought he was one of our better players at the weekend - he's certainly the only one I remember actually tackling anyone. Although I was pretty p*ssed mind. Me too...He was better than Cabaye and Sissoko combined... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I just think we need 3 in central midfield, no combination of two really works. I think Sissoko, Cabaye and Anita could work, although Marveaux would lose out or need to be accommodated elsewhere. I know it was only reading at home but until Pardew did his usual sit back when you get the lead i felt Anita-Cabaye-Marveaux worked very well. Anita for once was in a role he was bought for and not running round like a headless chicken, Cabaye was actually linking play between Anita and Marveaux. Obviously with Sissoko here now that midfield is unlikely but i felt it worked well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I actually thought he was one of our better players at the weekend - he's certainly the only one I remember actually tackling anyone. Although I was pretty p*ssed mind. Have to agree, he was nowhere near the worst player on the pitch for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I actually thought he was one of our better players at the weekend - he's certainly the only one I remember actually tackling anyone. Although I was pretty p*ssed mind. Have to agree, he was nowhere near the worst player on the pitch for us. No he wasn't. I was worried he'd be rusty as usual after coming from a long lay off, but he actually did ok compared to Jonas and Cabaye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 He's an absolute fraud like. Everything positive he does is completely negated by his lack of discipline and inability to keep possession. Waste of a shirt, waste of a 'purple'. We can definitely find better for his position from the cheapo French bargain bin. There'll still be sides willing to pay around £8m for Tiote IMO and we could probably get an upgrade for half of that. He's far from a fraud. He never hides at all so you're letting your hatred of him get in your way when saying that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 He's an absolute fraud like. Everything positive he does is completely negated by his lack of discipline and inability to keep possession. Waste of a shirt, waste of a 'purple'. We can definitely find better for his position from the cheapo French bargain bin. There'll still be sides willing to pay around £8m for Tiote IMO and we could probably get an upgrade for half of that. He's far from a fraud. He never hides at all so you're letting your hatred of him get in your way when saying that Seriously I really don't understand the Tiote scapegoating after that game. He wasn't great ok, but he was better that many on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Would love to see what a new manager does with him. He was so effective in his first season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyP Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Would love to see what a new manager does with him. He was so effective in his first season. This, I put it down to Pardew not playing him right. His best games (apart for Man Utd at home last season) were under Hughton really. Pardew has slowly eroded his ability away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 He's an absolute fraud like. Everything positive he does is completely negated by his lack of discipline and inability to keep possession. Waste of a shirt, waste of a 'purple'. We can definitely find better for his position from the cheapo French bargain bin. There'll still be sides willing to pay around £8m for Tiote IMO and we could probably get an upgrade for half of that. He's far from a fraud. He never hides at all so you're letting your hatred of him get in your way when saying that I never accused him of hiding; he is a fraud though because he's not the player he's deployed to be, in the slightest. He's supposed to relieve pressure, win physical battles without conceding too many fouls (obviously there will be some extent of those) and keep possession by giving the ball to the creative players. He certainly doesn't do the first, he overkills on the second and as for the third, he can't fucking pass the ball five yards. Add in his complete lack of discipline, the stupid bookings and occasional sendings off and he's an absolute liability. He's shit, and I really hope someone else is stupid enough to buy him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 He's an absolute fraud like. Everything positive he does is completely negated by his lack of discipline and inability to keep possession. Waste of a shirt, waste of a 'purple'. We can definitely find better for his position from the cheapo French bargain bin. There'll still be sides willing to pay around £8m for Tiote IMO and we could probably get an upgrade for half of that. He's far from a fraud. He never hides at all so you're letting your hatred of him get in your way when saying that I never accused him of hiding; he is a fraud though because he's not the player he's deployed to be, in the slightest. He's supposed to relieve pressure, win physical battles without conceding too many fouls (obviously there will be some extent of those) and keep possession by giving the ball to the creative players. He certainly doesn't do the first, he overkills on the second and as for the third, he can't f***ing pass the ball five yards. Add in his complete lack of discipline, the stupid bookings and occasional sendings off and he's an absolute liability. He's s***, and I really hope someone else is stupid enough to buy him. There isn't much he can do regarding the third point when his midfield partner (the more creative one) is sitting inbetween our centrebacks. We need to push Cabaye further forward, he sits far too deep and this ends up pushing Tiote further forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubblyDubblyDubbly Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Given his disciplinary record and resulting missed games he's likely been warned "no bookings" or you're dropped, and as a result he's been sh*te scared to do anything. He's shown teeny glimpses of quality when under pressure, but screwed up far more often. Playing him and Cabaye so deep against the Scum was bordering on criminal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 He's being asked to do too much, Pardews comments about him becoming an Essien type player point towards this. Technically, he isn't bad, he just needs to keep it simple much more, stick to the basics and be a water carrier for the more gifted in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 He's being asked to do too much, Pardews comments about him becoming an Essien type player point towards this. Technically, he isn't bad, he just needs to keep it simple much more, stick to the basics and be a water carrier for the more gifted in the team. thing is if people want cabaye to play further forward then tiote (if he plays) will get more of the ball and to keep it simple drags everyone towards him. i don't think tiote's got worse as much as he's been sussed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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