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Cheick Tioté (1986-2017)


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He was extreme today,  a class above the rest.  If he's sold this summer, he will be very expensive. One more season and  he's the best defensive midfielder in the league. It's unique that a player in that position has the ability to pass the ball so nicely as he does. It enables us to keep the pressure. A very good example of this was a situation around the midfield where he was surrounded by two burn players. Plenty of midfielders (and smith in particular) would have played the support pass back to keeper. Tiote on the other hand took a 180 degree turn and immediately hit an excellent pass to Barton who was on the opposite side of the midfield. Instead of Harper clearing the ball, that little piece of brilliance kept us in the attacking position.

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Some things I love about Tiote is the moment the ball leaves his foot for the pass I'm 100% confident it will reach it's target. He has a fantastic passing on top of his physical game.  I also love his ability to turn or spin a man. He dazzles players with the change of direction or feint.

 

We are a far better side when he is on the pitch.

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How do the bookings work after his next ban?  If he gets another five before the end of the season does he get a 1 or 2 game ban?

 

10 = 2 game ban

 

15 = 3 game ban

 

Tiote is on 9 yellow cards.

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Is the 10 bookings thing wiped at any point? If so how long does Tiote have to hang on till?

 

End of April. I don't think he'll make it...

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Is the 10 bookings thing wiped at any point? If so how long does Tiote have to hang on till?

 

End of April. I don't think he'll make it...

 

Its the 2nd Sunday in April, he needs to last 8 weeks without picking up 6 bookings

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(i) If a Player accumulates five cautions in FTCM between the opening day of the Playing Season and 31 December (including any FTCM played on that day) in the same Season, he will be suspended automatically for a period covering: - One First Team Match

 

(ii) If a Player accumulates five cautions in FTCM between the opening day of the Playing Season and the last day of the same Season, he will be: - “Warned as to his Future Conduct”

 

(iii) A Player who has already been subject to disciplinary action as a result of receiving five cautions and then proceeds to receive a further five cautions during the same Season, will be subject to the following punishments: -

 

(iv) If a Player accumulates ten cautions in FTCM between the opening day of the Playing Season and the second Sunday of April in the same Season, he will be suspended automatically for a period covering:- Two First Team matches

 

(v) If a Player accumulates ten cautions in FTCM between the opening day of the Playing Season and the last day of the same Season, he will be: - “Severely Censured and Warned as to his future Conduct”

 

(vi) If a Player accumulates 15 cautions in FTCM between the opening date of the Playing Season and the last day of the same Season, he will be suspended automatically for a period covering: - Three First Team matches

 

(vii) A Player who has already been subject to disciplinary action as a result of receiving five, ten and 15 cautions, and who goes on to receive 20 cautions in FTCM in the same Season, shall be required to attend a meeting of a Regulatory Commission, within seven days of the date of the last caution. The Members of a Regulatory Commission will have the power to deal with the Player in such manner as they deem fit. The same procedure will apply for every further five cautions received by that Player.

 

(viii) Any period of suspension arising from cautions will commence forthwith. The suspension will cover all approved First Team matches until such time as his Club’s First Team has completed the number of matches appropriate to the punishment in approved Competitions during the period covered by its opening league match and ending with the final match in which the Club is playing in an approved domestic Competition.

 

(ix) Any period of suspension or part thereof which remains outstanding at the end of a Season must be served at the commencement of the next following Season.

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How do the bookings work after his next ban?  If he gets another five before the end of the season does he get a 1 or 2 game ban?

 

Gets three matches then doesn't he?

 

Obviously, if that happened, and he missed 9 matches suspended this season that's kinda unacceptable.

 

This and his "spinning" thing is the reason I think a few might turn on him in the next year.

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How do the bookings work after his next ban?  If he gets another five before the end of the season does he get a 1 or 2 game ban?

 

Gets three matches then doesn't he?

 

Obviously, if that happened, and he missed 9 matches suspended this season that's kinda unacceptable.

 

This and his "spinning" thing is the reason I think a few might turn on him in the next year.

 

The spinning will only become tiresome once he has passing options tbh

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My dad always brings up Tiote's spin move, but I think it's great.  He's that composed on the ball that it's just his way of gaining control and holding off those trying to pressure him.  Scott Parker did (and still does) the same thing, albeit not as effectively.

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How do the bookings work after his next ban?  If he gets another five before the end of the season does he get a 1 or 2 game ban?

 

Gets three matches then doesn't he?

 

Obviously, if that happened, and he missed 9 matches suspended this season that's kinda unacceptable.

 

This and his "spinning" thing is the reason I think a few might turn on him in the next year.

 

???

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How do the bookings work after his next ban?  If he gets another five before the end of the season does he get a 1 or 2 game ban?

 

Gets three matches then doesn't he?

 

Obviously, if that happened, and he missed 9 matches suspended this season that's kinda unacceptable.

 

This and his "spinning" thing is the reason I think a few might turn on him in the next year.

 

???

 

I think a few will, I hope they don't but patience can be a bit short with some fans and once it starts running a bit thin these are the sorts of things he will be picked apart for.

 

I along with the majority thought Parker was absolutely brilliant for us his first season but then he got his illness, struggled to get back to his earlier form and his "spinning" (ie having absolutely no options at all and being taught under Jose not to just make a pass for the sake of it) was suddenly this massive issue. Don't think Parker was nearly as bad as he was made out to be at the end but he became a target, he should have kept his head in regards to reactions from certain sections of the ground but the criticism went too far imo.

 

Tiote is a much better player but if we really start to struggle I think he could go the same way due to the nature of his game (not making a pass just to get rid, always being involved, getting cards because of the way he plays etc..).

 

 

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I think a few will, I hope they don't but patience can be a bit short with some fans and once it starts running a bit thin these are the sorts of things he will be picked apart for.

 

I along with the majority thought Parker was absolutely brilliant for us his first season but then he got his illness, struggled to get back to his earlier form and his "spinning" (ie having absolutely no options at all and being taught under Jose not to just make a pass for the sake of it) was suddenly this massive issue. Don't think Parker was nearly as bad as he was made out to be at the end but he became a target, he should have kept his head in regards to reactions from certain sections of the ground but the criticism went too far imo.

 

Tiote is a much better player but if we really start to struggle I think he could go the same way due to the nature of his game (not making a pass just to get rid, always being involved, getting cards because of the way he plays etc..).

 

 

 

I was a fan of Parker but he wasn't in the same class as Tiote.  Parker was spinning to play the ball backwards or sideways, Tiote does it and takes his marker out and is always looking to get the ball forwards, I don't see that changing.

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I think a few will, I hope they don't but patience can be a bit short with some fans and once it starts running a bit thin these are the sorts of things he will be picked apart for.

 

I along with the majority thought Parker was absolutely brilliant for us his first season but then he got his illness, struggled to get back to his earlier form and his "spinning" (ie having absolutely no options at all and being taught under Jose not to just make a pass for the sake of it) was suddenly this massive issue. Don't think Parker was nearly as bad as he was made out to be at the end but he became a target, he should have kept his head in regards to reactions from certain sections of the ground but the criticism went too far imo.

 

Tiote is a much better player but if we really start to struggle I think he could go the same way due to the nature of his game (not making a pass just to get rid, always being involved, getting cards because of the way he plays etc..).

 

 

 

I was a fan of Parker but he wasn't in the same class as Tiote.  Parker was spinning to play the ball backwards or sideways, Tiote does it and takes his marker out and is always looking to get the ball forwards, I don't see that changing.

 

Parker would turn back, then forwards, then back, then forwards and it was because he was rarely given options :lol:

 

A little similar to Milner not putting he ball in without beating his man 12 times, the fact we only have a 3ft 7 Obafemi Martins in the box went unnoticed a lot of the time "just get it in there FFS!".

 

Anyway this is going down a path I can't be bothered to venture onto :lol:

 

I can just see a minority getting frustrated with Tiote because when we go through a rocky patch he will be a leading candidate to turn it around.

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Parker would turn back, then forwards, then back, then forwards and it was because he was rarely given options :lol:

 

A little similar to Milner not putting he ball in without beating his man 12 times, the fact we only have a 3ft 7 Obafemi Martins in the box went unnoticed a lot of the time "just get it in there FFS!".

 

Anyway this is going down a path I can't be bothered to venture onto :lol:

 

I can just see a minority getting frustrated with Tiote because when we go through a rocky patch he will be a leading candidate to turn it around.

 

Tiote increases his options after spinning as he comes out with the ball and moved forwards, Parker rarely did that so was stuck with playing the ball to somebody who wasn't being marked and usually behind him.

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The Tiote turn is nothing like the Parker pirouette. Tiote does it to escape an encroaching player and power forward into space. Parker did it cos his vision was shite and didn't know what to do with the ball. Cheick's actually got a fair burst of accelleration too - which Parker didn't have.

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