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Fairy nuff. I just see him as more of a 'selfish player' - like a better version of Jonas - who can set up and score goals for himself (like his Everton goal). The only way I'd see him in the centre would be something like:

 

                    Krul

Simpson  Willi  Colo  Enrique

      Barton  Tiote  Nolan

           <---  HBA --->

            Carroll  ?? ??

 

in a sort of free role in and around the strikers. The only problem is the lack of width it would give us.

 

I just think we need two up top, because Barton/Carroll (who I see as our two biggest attacking threats atm) seem to work best in a 4-4-2. Our best football came when Hughton switched the formation post-City game IMO.

 

He could be another Beardsley who was good alongside another forward yet would pop up all over the place.

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Krul

Simpson-Williamson-Coloccini-Enrique

Barton-Nolan-Tiote-Gutierrez

Ben Arfa

Carroll

 

 

With Ben Arfa in the team, in a free role, I think Gutierrez will get more space, and not being closed down by two players all the time. It also plays better to Ben Arfas skills not locking him down to the wing. We don't have a good partner to Carroll, so Ben Arfa and Nolan supporting him is a better choice.

 

Massive point btw. Purely from what i've seen in those two games, Ben Arfa's the type of player that could galvanise any fellow attacker. Jonas would benefit from not being the only fucker in the side who can beat a man.

 

But everyone told me he was useless. Now I'm confused.

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                            Krul

 

Simpson  Williamson  Coloccini  Enrique

 

                Tiote          Nolan

 

Barton            Ben Arfa          Jonas

     

                        Carroll

 

Still need a better LW, a better CM, a better RB, a better CB.

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                             Krul

 

Simpson   Williamson  Coloccini   Enrique

 

                Tiote          Nolan

 

Barton             Ben Arfa           Jonas

       

                         Carroll

 

Still need a better LW, a better CM, a better RB, a better CB.

 

Pretty much word for word what I'd write. :)

 

Also need another striker as a priority though/

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                             Krul

 

Simpson   Williamson  Coloccini   Enrique

 

                Tiote          Nolan

 

Barton             Ben Arfa           Jonas

       

                         Carroll

 

Still need a better LW, a better CM, a better RB, a better CB.

 

Pretty much word for word what I'd write. :)

 

Also need another striker as a priority though/

 

Well, I dunno.  We have Xisco and Best sitting there.  To an extent, they're unknowns.  Best looked good in pre-season, and Xisco I still feel has talent if we don't just let him rot. 

 

We're never gonna get anyone as good as Carroll in January.  Either of those two may prove to be as good as anything we could get.

 

But yes, if they are both poor then we need another striker.

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                             Krul

 

Simpson   Williamson  Coloccini   Enrique

 

                Tiote          Nolan

 

Barton             Ben Arfa           Jonas

      

                         Carroll

 

Still need a better LW, a better CM, a better RB, a better CB.

 

If we're going for CL, aye. As a first team that's really quite decent.

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                             Krul

 

Simpson   Williamson  Coloccini   Enrique

 

                Tiote          Nolan

 

Barton             Ben Arfa           Jonas

       

                         Carroll

 

Still need a better LW, a better CM, a better RB, a better CB.

 

Pretty much word for word what I'd write. :)

 

Also need another striker as a priority though/

 

Well, I dunno.  We have Xisco and Best sitting there.  To an extent, they're unknowns.  Best looked good in pre-season, and Xisco I still feel has talent if we don't just let him rot. 

 

We're never gonna get anyone as good as Carroll in January.  Either of those two may prove to be as good as anything we could get.

 

But yes, if they are both poor then we need another striker.

 

It's spot on.

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                             Krul

 

Simpson   Williamson  Coloccini   Enrique

 

                Tiote          Nolan

 

Barton             Ben Arfa           Jonas

      

                         Carroll

 

Still need a better LW, a better CM, a better RB, a better CB.

 

If we're going for CL, aye. As a first team that's really quite decent.

 

On paper, yes.

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                    Krul

 

Simpson  Taylor  Coloccini  Enrique

 

 

Bentley    Barton    Tiote      Ben Arfa

 

               

                  Keane      Carroll

 

Subs- Harper, Williamson, Campbell, Gosling, Jonas, Nolan, Ranger

 

;)

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                                      Krul

 

Saylor             Williamson        Coloccini             Enrique

 

Barton            Tiote                 Nolan                          Jonas

 

                                  Ben Arfa

 

                   

                                  Carroll

 

That is without seeing Gosling play for us though.

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Krul

 

Saylor Williamson Coloccini Enrique

 

Barton Tiote Nolan Jonas

 

Ben Arfa

 

 

Carroll

 

That is without seeing Gosling play for us though.

 

If Gosling turns out to be better in the centre than Jonas on the left, then:

 

Krul

Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrique

Tiote Gosling

Barton Nolan Ben Arfa

Carroll

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As the squad stands its this.. we getKeane then sdop Nolan and play Keane alongside Carroll.

 

------------------Krul

 

Simo-----Tayls-------Colo------Jose

 

Jonas-----Bart--------Tiote-----HBA

 

-----------------Nolan

 

----------------Carroll

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Talking bout this the other day, think we have players who'd do ok in the currently fashoinable 4-2-3-1.

 

                    Krul

Simpson, Colo,Williamson, Enrique

            Tiote Barton

Routledge Ben Arfa  Jonas

                Carroll

 

It obviously depends on how we want to play, if we're holding a lot of possession like we did earlier in the season under Hughton then i genuinely think this would do well, would have tiote sitting and Barton up and down the pitch, ben arfa gets pretty much a free role and Jonas and Routledge gambling and getting in the box, whilst providing width on the counter. Genuinely thinjk thats a pretty multi functional team. The obvious omission would be Nolan his goals have been important but his lack of mobility have also been a hinderance at times.

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Talking bout this the other day, think we have players who'd do ok in the currently fashoinable 4-2-3-1.

 

                    Krul

Simpson, Colo,Williamson, Enrique

             Tiote Barton

Routledge Ben Arfa  Jonas

                 Carroll

 

It obviously depends on how we want to play, if we're holding a lot of possession like we did earlier in the season under Hughton then i genuinely think this would do well, would have tiote sitting and Barton up and down the pitch, ben arfa gets pretty much a free role and Jonas and Routledge gambling and getting in the box, whilst providing width on the counter. Genuinely thinjk thats a pretty multi functional team. The obvious omission would be Nolan his goals have been important but his lack of mobility have also been a hinderance at times.

 

You would have Routledge in any first XI over Nolan? :mackems:

 

Bookmarking this post for next year's awards :lol:

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                           Harper

 

Simpson  Wiliamson  Collocini  Enrique

 

Barton     Nolan         Tiote       Jonas

 

                                  Ben Arfa

                Carroll

 

 

Not decided on Williamson vs Taylor yet, but thats a good shout!

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Currently...

 

Krul/Harper

 

Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrique

 

Barton   Nolan Tiote Gutierrez

 

Carrolll Ben Arfa

 

 

Next season I'd like to see...

 

Krul/Forster

 

Simpson New CB Coloccini Enrique

 

Barton Nolan Tiote   Ben Arfa

 

New CF Carroll

 

 

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Currently...

 

                    Krul/Harper

 

Simpson Williamson Coloccini  Enrique

 

Barton     Nolan    Tiote        Gutierrez

 

                Carrolll  Ben Arfa

 

 

Next season I'd like to see...

 

                Krul/Forster

 

Simpson  New CB  Coloccini Enrique

 

Barton    Nolan    Tiote     Ben Arfa

 

              New CF Carroll

 

 

 

:thup:

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