JH Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Ah the 4-3-1-2. One in which HBA drops back onto the left and Barton pushes out right when we're defending and without the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Fairy nuff. I just see him as more of a 'selfish player' - like a better version of Jonas - who can set up and score goals for himself (like his Everton goal). The only way I'd see him in the centre would be something like: Krul Simpson Willi Colo Enrique Barton Tiote Nolan <--- HBA ---> Carroll ?? ?? in a sort of free role in and around the strikers. The only problem is the lack of width it would give us. I just think we need two up top, because Barton/Carroll (who I see as our two biggest attacking threats atm) seem to work best in a 4-4-2. Our best football came when Hughton switched the formation post-City game IMO. He could be another Beardsley who was good alongside another forward yet would pop up all over the place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Krul Simpson-Williamson-Coloccini-Enrique Barton-Nolan-Tiote-Gutierrez Ben Arfa Carroll With Ben Arfa in the team, in a free role, I think Gutierrez will get more space, and not being closed down by two players all the time. It also plays better to Ben Arfas skills not locking him down to the wing. We don't have a good partner to Carroll, so Ben Arfa and Nolan supporting him is a better choice. Massive point btw. Purely from what i've seen in those two games, Ben Arfa's the type of player that could galvanise any fellow attacker. Jonas would benefit from not being the only fucker in the side who can beat a man. But everyone told me he was useless. Now I'm confused. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I'd pick a back 4, a balanced midfield 4, Carroll up top and Ben Arfa can roam and do what the fuck he likes. Complete freedom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I'd pick a back 4, a balanced midfield 4, Carroll up top and Ben Arfa can roam and do what the fuck he likes. Complete freedom. That's precisely what i mean really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Krul Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrique Tiote Nolan Barton Ben Arfa Jonas Carroll Still need a better LW, a better CM, a better RB, a better CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Krul Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrique Tiote Nolan Barton Ben Arfa Jonas Carroll Still need a better LW, a better CM, a better RB, a better CB. Pretty much word for word what I'd write. Also need another striker as a priority though/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Krul Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrique Tiote Nolan Barton Ben Arfa Jonas Carroll Still need a better LW, a better CM, a better RB, a better CB. Pretty much word for word what I'd write. Also need another striker as a priority though/ Well, I dunno. We have Xisco and Best sitting there. To an extent, they're unknowns. Best looked good in pre-season, and Xisco I still feel has talent if we don't just let him rot. We're never gonna get anyone as good as Carroll in January. Either of those two may prove to be as good as anything we could get. But yes, if they are both poor then we need another striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Krul Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrique Tiote Nolan Barton Ben Arfa Jonas Carroll Still need a better LW, a better CM, a better RB, a better CB. If we're going for CL, aye. As a first team that's really quite decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Krul Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrique Tiote Nolan Barton Ben Arfa Jonas Carroll Still need a better LW, a better CM, a better RB, a better CB. Pretty much word for word what I'd write. Also need another striker as a priority though/ Well, I dunno. We have Xisco and Best sitting there. To an extent, they're unknowns. Best looked good in pre-season, and Xisco I still feel has talent if we don't just let him rot. We're never gonna get anyone as good as Carroll in January. Either of those two may prove to be as good as anything we could get. But yes, if they are both poor then we need another striker. It's spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Krul Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrique Tiote Nolan Barton Ben Arfa Jonas Carroll Still need a better LW, a better CM, a better RB, a better CB. If we're going for CL, aye. As a first team that's really quite decent. On paper, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andrew Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Krul Simpson Taylor Coloccini Enrique Bentley Barton Tiote Ben Arfa Keane Carroll Subs- Harper, Williamson, Campbell, Gosling, Jonas, Nolan, Ranger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Krul Saylor Williamson Coloccini Enrique Barton Tiote Nolan Jonas Ben Arfa Carroll That is without seeing Gosling play for us though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Krul Saylor Williamson Coloccini Enrique Barton Tiote Nolan Jonas Ben Arfa Carroll That is without seeing Gosling play for us though. If Gosling turns out to be better in the centre than Jonas on the left, then: Krul Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrique Tiote Gosling Barton Nolan Ben Arfa Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 As the squad stands its this.. we getKeane then sdop Nolan and play Keane alongside Carroll. ------------------Krul Simo-----Tayls-------Colo------Jose Jonas-----Bart--------Tiote-----HBA -----------------Nolan ----------------Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 There's 4 players away from their best position there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Krul/Harper Simpson, Taylor/Wilo, Colo, Jose Barton, Nolan, Tiote, Ben Carroll, +1 Basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Talking bout this the other day, think we have players who'd do ok in the currently fashoinable 4-2-3-1. Krul Simpson, Colo,Williamson, Enrique Tiote Barton Routledge Ben Arfa Jonas Carroll It obviously depends on how we want to play, if we're holding a lot of possession like we did earlier in the season under Hughton then i genuinely think this would do well, would have tiote sitting and Barton up and down the pitch, ben arfa gets pretty much a free role and Jonas and Routledge gambling and getting in the box, whilst providing width on the counter. Genuinely thinjk thats a pretty multi functional team. The obvious omission would be Nolan his goals have been important but his lack of mobility have also been a hinderance at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Talking bout this the other day, think we have players who'd do ok in the currently fashoinable 4-2-3-1. Krul Simpson, Colo,Williamson, Enrique Tiote Barton Routledge Ben Arfa Jonas Carroll It obviously depends on how we want to play, if we're holding a lot of possession like we did earlier in the season under Hughton then i genuinely think this would do well, would have tiote sitting and Barton up and down the pitch, ben arfa gets pretty much a free role and Jonas and Routledge gambling and getting in the box, whilst providing width on the counter. Genuinely thinjk thats a pretty multi functional team. The obvious omission would be Nolan his goals have been important but his lack of mobility have also been a hinderance at times. You would have Routledge in any first XI over Nolan? Bookmarking this post for next year's awards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I was sure right about Barton being left out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertCommunicator Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Harper Simpson Wiliamson Collocini Enrique Barton Nolan Tiote Jonas Ben Arfa Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Harper Simpson Wiliamson Collocini Enrique Barton Nolan Tiote Jonas Ben Arfa Carroll Not decided on Williamson vs Taylor yet, but thats a good shout! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertCommunicator Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Then next season: Krul Simpson Williamson Collocini Enrique Bentley Barton Tiote Ben Arfa +1 Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Currently... Krul/Harper Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrique Barton Nolan Tiote Gutierrez Carrolll Ben Arfa Next season I'd like to see... Krul/Forster Simpson New CB Coloccini Enrique Barton Nolan Tiote Ben Arfa New CF Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Currently... Krul/Harper Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrique Barton Nolan Tiote Gutierrez Carrolll Ben Arfa Next season I'd like to see... Krul/Forster Simpson New CB Coloccini Enrique Barton Nolan Tiote Ben Arfa New CF Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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