Guest HGB1892 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Imagine if we'd stayed up 2 seasons ago, where would we be now? I reckon we'd be starting this season in the Championship and managerless once again. Regardless of the circumstances of the relegation it was a long time coming due to mismanagement from the very top since before the sacking of SBR. We've a load of shite off the wage bill, we have a manager who goes about his business with a quiet dignity and every addition to the squad improves it. Obviously Ashley is still a fucknut but he appears to be starting to get the business part right and it's a shame that every right thing he does is compounded by something daft (Sports Direct signs?? howay man). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Nonsense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Blessing in disguise and all that. The one major aspect of having gone into the Championship and come back out that gets overlooked is that, while it was depressing at first, has brought a real "feel good" factor back to the club. Not only do lots of other club's fans keeping saying it's great to have us back "where we belong" but also for us personally it felt good to have a season where we were winning almost all of our matches - there's a real confidence in the squad and amongst the squad. We also got rid of a lot of the dead weight helping us balance our books and giving us a better chance at the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 As long as we never ever ever have to go through such a horrible painful season again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 As long as we never ever ever have to go through such a horrible painful season again. The season wasn't painful. The last season in the Premiership was so much worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 As much as it hurt like hell going down I really enjoyed our season in the Championship. Would rather that we had stayed up in the first place mind. What's best? being top dog in a shit league or a struggler in a top league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 As much as it hurt like hell going down I really enjoyed our season in the Championship. Would rather that we had stayed up in the first place mind. Basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 A lot of positives to come from relegation, but I wish it never happened. Relegation again would kill us off, I don't think it would be as straightforward as our CCC season was if it happened again. Overall relegation has done us more good than harm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 perhaps, too early to tell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I'm sick of discussing it, we have all said on other threads how it maybe the best thing to have happend to our club in recent years, we have also all said how it is still early days to even concluding that it is indeed the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 If it was so good everybody would be doing it.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 As long as we never ever ever have to go through such a horrible painful season again. The season wasn't painful. The last season in the Premiership was so much worse. That's what i meant. 2008/2009 started with so much promise and it was like a dagger in the heart at VP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Nor many go down and come back stronger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 In hindsight, its turned out ok so far but at the time there was a real danger we'd drop even further. Now we're slightly saner financially and the team spirit has transformed the club. Hughton has blossomed, whereas I doubt he'd be manager if we survived. On 'The Game' podcast, Caulkin said some of Ashley's ideas were arguably ok, its just he picked the wrong personnel for them (Wise, Kinnear etc.). No doubt Ashley has made a howler of things, but as he fades into the background the club seems to benefit. So yes, in hindsight, relegation was good for us. The club has been cleansed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 A relegation can never be a good thing in the short term. In the long term it can be a positive as it cleared a lot of the malingering shite (Duff, Viduka, Oba, OWEN) away from the club. Instead of hiring some billy big bollocks manager with an obsession of spending as much cash (that we didnt have) as possible, we've fortuantely got ourselves a manager who has helped drag the club off its knees with a minimum of fuss and fanfare. Overpaid and undercaring wasters have been replaced with players (mainly) on the up curve of their careers, complimenting a core of grafters who genuinely seem to give a shit about how we do. I have to go back to the days of Keegan when i genuinely liked the players who pulled on our shirt as much. Too many times since then, our lot seemed blaze about the club. "As long as i'm pocketing my 60k a week off these mugs, now where's the treatment room?" was the prevalent attitude. Ashley's nonsensical idea of pairing KK (wonderful in the 90s but a dreadful appointment following Allardyce) with his stooges was a recipe for disaster and subsequent fuck ups, like that moron Kinnear, cost us dear. I think it's in Ashleys naive misunderstanding of football that some further mistakes will be inevitable but as long as they become few and far between and he keeps supporting the manager with a sensible level of investment, then there is no reason why we cant re-establish oursleves as a top ten side in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 We've managed to do well from a crappy situation. The risks involved with relegation are just not worth taking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 A relegation can never be a good thing in the short term. In the long term it can be a positive as it cleared a lot of the malingering s**** (Duff, Viduka, Oba, OWEN) away from the club. Instead of hiring some billy big bollocks manager with an obsession of spending as much cash (that we didnt have) as possible, we've fortuantely got ourselves a manager who has helped drag the club off its knees with a minimum of fuss and fanfare. Overpaid and undercaring wasters have been replaced with players (mainly) on the up curve of their careers, complimenting a core of grafters who genuinely seem to give a s*** about how we do. I have to go back to the days of Keegan when i genuinely liked the players who pulled on our shirt as much. Too many times since then, our lot seemed blaze about the club. "As long as i'm pocketing my 60k a week off these mugs, now where's the treatment room?" was the prevalent attitude. Ashley's nonsensical idea of pairing KK (wonderful in the 90s but a dreadful appointment following Allardyce) with his stooges was a recipe for disaster and subsequent f*** ups, like that moron Kinnear, cost us dear. I think it's in Ashleys naive misunderstanding of football that some further mistakes will be inevitable but as long as they become few and far between and he keeps supporting the manager with a sensible level of investment, then there is no reason why we cant re-establish oursleves as a top ten side in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 This has been discussed a hundred times, some good came from it, but overall no it wasn't a good thing, certainly not financially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridman Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 This has been discussed a hundred times, some good came from it, but overall no it wasn't a good thing, certainly not financially. Yup. Almost makes ya miss the new board vs old board threads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Relegation was awful. But like so many things in life, sometimes you need to take a step back to move forward overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 A relegation can never be a good thing in the short term. In the long term it can be a positive as it cleared a lot of the malingering s**** (Duff, Viduka, Oba, OWEN) away from the club. Instead of hiring some billy big bollocks manager with an obsession of spending as much cash (that we didnt have) as possible, we've fortuantely got ourselves a manager who has helped drag the club off its knees with a minimum of fuss and fanfare. Overpaid and undercaring wasters have been replaced with players (mainly) on the up curve of their careers, complimenting a core of grafters who genuinely seem to give a s*** about how we do. I have to go back to the days of Keegan when i genuinely liked the players who pulled on our shirt as much. Too many times since then, our lot seemed blaze about the club. "As long as i'm pocketing my 60k a week off these mugs, now where's the treatment room?" was the prevalent attitude. Ashley's nonsensical idea of pairing KK (wonderful in the 90s but a dreadful appointment following Allardyce) with his stooges was a recipe for disaster and subsequent f*** ups, like that moron Kinnear, cost us dear. I think it's in Ashleys naive misunderstanding of football that some further mistakes will be inevitable but as long as they become few and far between and he keeps supporting the manager with a sensible level of investment, then there is no reason why we cant re-establish oursleves as a top ten side in the Premier League. Owen and Viduka would have gone even if we'd stayed up, Bassong and Beye might not have though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I'll give you an answer come May. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Yes it was with out a shadow of doubt... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I think it could be blessing because of the purge and regroup. However, if we were to get relegated this season, I think 2 in 3 years would be disasterous. A one off can be forgotten, 2 makes us a yoyo club, neither fans nor players will stick about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 This has been discussed a hundred times, some good came from it, but overall no it wasn't a good thing, certainly not financially. Right. It was a bad thing that we made the best of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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