Vinny Green Balls Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'm not too knowledgable on these things.. why would he have chemo months afterwards? I thought you had chemo during the testicle removal phase, so Oct-Jan time? usually do biopsies afterward. Could well be discovered he was Stage III or IV after the initial surgery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Lost in translation surely, even Pardew couldn't be that low. All efforts should be generated into supporting Gutierrez not finding something further to bash Pardew with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Found another, more detailed, Argie article: http://canchallena.lanacion.com.ar/1727744-el-duro-momento-de-jonas-gutierrez-que-pelea-contra-una-enfermedad Says Colo knew, and has supported him greatly. He's also kept it a secret to most people, even saying to friends that he had shaved his head "because of a bet". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 We really need a banner for this man. Hba gets one for being a good player. Imagine the boost it could give him to show we care! No way club would not encurge this. Or if we all donate buy 1000 get well soon cards to the club Should start donations and see about getting a massive banner together for the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Confused on the timeline but when did Colo dissapear to Argentina? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 There is no reason to criticise the club until more information is released, to be honest. While the club have told us nothing, it is also important to note that Jonas, himself, has also been invisible for a long period of time. He may have preferred things this way. Mostly, I just have thoughts and prayers for him. For the years he has been at the club, Gutierrez has been a great professional and seemed a good man. I hope to be reading articles about him fully recovering and continuing with football or the next stage of his life, in the coming months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Confused on the timeline but when did Colo dissapear to Argentina? About a year before Jonas went to Norwich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Forget the club, we know nothing about how they handled this. Any reports of getting sent back to Argentina is more than likely 'compassionate' and nothing released publically was probably Jonas' request. Now it's out i expect Pardew to release a statement. Get well soon Gutierrez lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Confused on the timeline but when did Colo dissapear to Argentina? About a year before Jonas went to Norwich. Ok, bed time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 As expected, from the Mirror. Gutierrez's health problem has been known about within Newcastle for almost a year, but his privacy respected. The 31-year-old drifted out of the first team picture last season and was loaned to Norwich in January. He added: "I removed the left testicle. I returned to England and Newcastle told me to leave." Newcastle instructed reporters not to persist in questioning why Gutierrez was absent for a period last season, out of respect for the situation. Gutierrez will continue his treatment and recovery in Argentina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Just read that Colo has known since he discovered the lump - probably why he was over there last week Get well soon Jonas - awful bastard disease Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Confused on the timeline but when did Colo dissapear to Argentina? About a year before Jonas went to Norwich. Ok, bed time He's been back a few times iirc but that's the most famous one. He went back home before the Southampton game as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I found the video of the original interview, gonna watch it and tell you if he says something relevant that's not in the articles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I found the video of the original interview, gonna watch it and tell you if he says something relevant that's not in the articles. Cheers VI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Found another, more detailed, Argie article: http://canchallena.lanacion.com.ar/1727744-el-duro-momento-de-jonas-gutierrez-que-pelea-contra-una-enfermedad Says Colo knew, and has supported him greatly. He's also kept it a secret to most people, even saying to friends that he had shaved his head "because of a bet". Just read it, hits hard realizing it reached the stage of chemo. Nowadays the awareness of testicular cancer is so good that it's usually found out at early stages... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Really sad, this. Get well soon, Jonas! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Says he talked to the club and it was his choice to face it on his own, since he preferred to come to Argentina where he could talk to doctors in Spanish, etc... Has one chemo session left and then two months of recovery. He's pretty calm and optimistic, so seems everything is going ok. Says he had some of his sperm frozen before the op, since he still wants to have children. Contrarily to what some of the articles say, he found out the cancer had affected his nodes during this summer, not while playing for Norwich. He kept it secret from almost everybody, claiming that he had shaved his head because of a bet, etc... it's taken him a while to be open about it. Cites Colo, Heinze, Demichelis as some of the people that knew and supported him. Colo has visited him often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Awww man, get well soon Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Says he talked to the club and it was his choice to face it on his own, since he preferred to come to Argentina where he could talk to doctors in Spanish, etc... Has one chemo session left and then two months of recovery. He's pretty calm and optimistic, so seems everything is going ok. Says he had some of his sperm frozen before the op, since he still wants to have children. Contrarily to what some of the articles say, he found out the cancer had affected his nodes during this summer, not while playing for Norwich. He kept it secret from almost everybody, claiming that he had shaved his head because of a bet, etc... it's taken him a while to be open about it. Cites Colo, Heinze, Demichelis as some of the people that knew and supported him. Colo has visited him often. Thanks for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Horrible news this Hope he recovers soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Fucking hell,I was out and just saw this now. Horrible news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Thanks VI. All the best Jonas. Thinking of you dude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Just wondering whether the quote "Newcastle told me to leave" could be a poor translation of them just granting him compassionate leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Just wondering whether the quote "Newcastle told me to leave" could be a poor translation of them just granting him compassionate leave. That quote is about when he returned and Pardew told him that it was better for him to search for another club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 From January: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/norwichs-jonas-gutierrez-newcastle-exit-3029641 “The manager told me in December I was not going to play any more and told me to find myself another club. “I don’t know why it happened and I still don’t understand what I did wrong. “There were no rows with Alan Pardew or anything like that. He just said I needed to leave and that was that. “I honestly don’t know why I wasn’t playing, you will have to ask the manager that. He just made his decision and that was it. Something must have happened – but I don’t know what.”Gutierrez knew the writing was on the wall when he was left out of the FA Cup third round tie against Cardiff. He admitted: “I was hoping I would get an opportunity in the cup. But instead I was left sitting in the stand. I was not even named in the squad for the game. So after that I knew it was all over for me. For five years before that I had always been in the starting XI. Then suddenly I wasn’t even in the squad. “I still don’t know why and I don’t think I will ever understand it. It’s how football is and you just have to get on with it.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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