Jonás Gutiérrez (now managing Club Almagro)

[ujpest doza]

So which one is less believable?

 

1. Chemotherapy is poison

 

2. Radiation systematically destroys your immune system

 

3. Alan Pardew plays attractive, front foot football

 

4. Cancer cells do not survive in an alkaline environment

 

Im not trying to sell anybody anything. 

 

Im just saying that there are alternatives out there that don't involve dying or emptying your bank account.

 

 

 

Why empty your bank account when treatment is free on the NHS?

 

And the answer is 4.

 

[BlueStar]

The chemotherapy always fails, its poison.  If you survive 5 years you are considered 'cured' apparently.  But then you die (while apparently cured).  Radiation also destroys your immune system.

 

Cesium and Potassium, on the other hand, doesn't kill you.  Its called alkalizing therapy.  Cancer doesn't survive in an Alkaline environment. 

 

The Cancer lie is perpetuated for financial gain.  Has been for a long time, now. 

 

The real 'cure' is just too 'cheap' to be exploited by the drugs companies.

 

 

Sounds like this kind of email forward nonsense.

http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cancerupdate.asp

 

People have died from trying to self medicate cancer with Cesium.  There is no scientific evidence it works and it can cause issues with heart rhythm, seizures, loss of consciousness, and electrolyte imbalances.

 

Here's a more thorough debunking of some of this type of pseudo-scientific woo, including the magical alkaline system shite. 

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/no-johns-hopkins-did-not-release-update-revealing-truth-about-cancer

 

http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2014/03/24/dont-believe-the-hype-10-persistent-cancer-myths-debunked/#acidic-diets

 

This is biological nonsense. True, cancer cells can’t live in an overly alkaline environment - but neither can any of the other cells in your body.

Blood is usually slightly alkaline. This is tightly regulated by the kidneys within a very narrow and perfectly healthy range. It can’t be changed for any meaningful amount of time by what you eat, and any extra acid or alkali is simply peed out in urine.

To maintain the correct balance within the body, your urine can and does change pH, depending on what you’ve eaten (explained in detail in this post). This can be seen by testing urine pH (acidity) after eating different foods and is the basis of the mistaken belief that diet can “make the body alkaline”. But that’s all you’re changing, and anyone who claims otherwise simply doesn’t understand how the body works.

 

Of course no evidence is good enough, because any findings from actual medical professionals must be a secret plot by Big Pharma and the NWO. The only people worth listening to is someone with a blog, a Diploma of Healology from Professor Moonseed's College of Wellness and a warehouse full of snake oil they want to shift.

[TBG]

So which one is less believable?

 

1. Chemotherapy is poison

 

2. Radiation systematically destroys your immune system

 

3. Alan Pardew plays attractive, front foot football

 

4. Cancer cells do not survive in an alkaline environment

 

Im not trying to sell anybody anything. 

 

Im just saying that there are alternatives out there that don't involve dying or emptying your bank account.

 

 

 

 

http://themavesite.com/TMS-Pictures/Epic/ThatPostGaveMeCancer.jpg

[Disco]

Feel free to talk about this else where (http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php?board=16.0), not exactly the best taste to do so in here tbh.

[John P]

As someone who works in cancer research, I can safely say zicomartin is talking utter bollocks. Not that it really needed saying but there you go.

[Dave]

Last three posts.

[Guest neesy111]

As someone who works in cancer research, I can safely say zicomartin is talking utter bollocks. Not that it really needed saying but there you go.

 

[Bad Mongo]

I'm sure zicomartin's utterly scientific facts are only being repressed by all credible journals due to their refusal to publish anything in the logically required one-sentence-per-paragraph format.

[Kaizero]

I'm so close to just straight up calling zicomartin the c-word. So close. Fuck. Scum of the earth conspiracy theorist motherfuckers. Fuck. So angry.

[Bad Mongo]

I'm so close to just straight up calling zicomartin the c-word. So close. Fuck. Scum of the earth conspiracy theorist motherfuckers. Fuck. So angry.

 

The c-word? Charlatan? It's not libellous.

[NEEJ]

Wasn't it zicomartin who babbled on about the server location thing the other week? Says it all really.

[Elliottman]

Wasn't it zicomartin who babbled on about the server location thing the other week? Says it all really.

 

nuff said.

[Troll]

All this "big pharma is covering up the cure for $$$" talk usually comes from America, where they forget all the countries with public healthcare who would save billions if they had the cure, and all the publicly funded scientific research that goes on. 

[loki679]

All this "big pharma is covering up the cure for $$$" talk usually comes from mentalists with no sense of propriety. 

[Vinny Green Balls]

All this "big pharma is covering up the cure for $$$" talk usually comes from America, where they forget all the countries with public healthcare who would save billions if they had the cure, and all the publicly funded scientific research that goes on. 

 

it's a sizable minority too.  Alex Jones and his ilk have multi-million dollar industries based on this misinformation.

[Pata]

Wasn't it zicomartin who babbled on about the server location thing the other week? Says it all really.

 

:lol:

[TRC]

Think we should stop talking about conspiracy theories in this thread.

 

Get well soon Jonas, top bloke.

[Guest zicomartin]

Yeah, you guys are pretty fun to hang out with, when all is said and done.  We could all go for pints and have a great laugh about beating two stage four cancers for 8 years, whilst still not being dead, or even feeling ill in the slightest.

 

Quite honestly, nobody cares and you are on your own, when this happens to you.

 

You make your choices, and you live or die by them. 

 

No big deal.

 

At least we ALL have a choice.

 

Best to Jonas of course. 

 

Hopefully his immense fitness (and Colo's green tea) sees him through. 

 

 

[Vinny Green Balls]

Yeah, you guys are pretty fun to hang out with, when all is said and done.  We could all go for pints and have a great laugh about beating two stage four cancers for 8 years, whilst still not being dead, or even feeling ill in the slightest.

 

Quite honestly, nobody cares and you are on your own, when this happens to you.

 

You make your choices, and you live or die by them. 

 

No big deal.

 

At least we ALL have a choice.

 

Best to Jonas of course. 

 

Hopefully his immense fitness (and Colo's green tea) sees him through. 

 

 

 

or he should stick with chemo.

[Guest zicomartin]

And what about the other 5 years?

 

[Vinny Green Balls]

Chemo usually last a few months.

 

 

Are you having another "American hosting company" moment?

 

5-year survival rates are useful in understanding prognosis.  Most cancer is so unpredictable that it becomes less meaningful to go beyond that.  And no wonder pill or Cesium-133 treatment will change that.

 

 

[Disco]

Fuck this man.

[BlueStar]

Further discussion of doctors' plans to kill us all with chemotherapy and keep the real cure for cancer secret can be continued here

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,76773.msg5169391.html#msg5169391

 

Keep it out of this thread from now on please.

[Ronaldo]

I know he's obviously been treated harshly but under no circumstances should he have been kept in the first team out of sympathy.

[Mike]

I know he's obviously been treated harshly but under no circumstances should he have been kept in the first team out of sympathy.

 

But you don't tell a guy in that situation to find another team, either. There's a load of space between fuck off and first name on the team sheet.