Jonás Gutiérrez (now managing Club Almagro)

[Mr. Snrub]

The cure for cancer is already out there, but why give out something that's raking in billions of dollars a year?

 

Anyway, stay strong, Jonas.

[Guest zicomartin]

You know that Cesium is a simple mineral, commonly found in volcanic rocks and 'natural' products such as  volvic water.

 

I dont find it hard to believe that companies who cannot legally patent a 'natural' product, would also have no interest in promoting one?

 

Work it out for yourself. 

 

Now go and look at all the latest cancer 'wonder' drugs.  All highly alkaline alka-seltzers, no multi million dollar research required.

 

Do the math' as they say.

 

[Darth Crooks]

As somebody whose spouse who works for CRUK I can safely say your claim of an existence of a fully distributable wonder drug is a little over simplified. It's more a case of successful clinical trials. Not a quick process, nor particularly safe.

[Darth Crooks]

Oh and the. 5 year 'clear' period just means you have an estimated survival period of at least 10 years. There's every chance of it coming back.

[Darth Crooks]

And if it were marketable, I would imagine the likes of a multi millionaire like jonas would be able to afford to be able be part if any if these trials.

[Flip]

The chemotherapy always fails, its poison.  If you survive 5 years you are considered 'cured' apparently.  But then you die (while apparently cured).  Radiation also destroys your immune system.

 

What are you talking about?

[Vinny Green Balls]

You a Cesium-133 broker or something, zicomartin?

[Troll]

Zicomartin = Mrlogic

[Troll]

You know that Cesium is a simple mineral, commonly found in volcanic rocks and 'natural' products such as  volvic water.

 

I dont find it hard to believe that companies who cannot legally patent a 'natural' product, would also have no interest in promoting one?

 

Work it out for yourself. 

 

Now go and look at all the latest cancer 'wonder' drugs.  All highly alkaline alka-seltzers, no multi million dollar research required.

 

Do the math' as they say.

 

 

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/why-alkaline-approach-can-successfully-treat-cancer?page=2#_edn1

 

This was all I found on "alkalizing therapy".  Looking at the article and references, it's alternative medicine that's not been proven to work, and your rant about big pharma hiding the cancer cure is conspiracy theorist bullshit.

 

The fact is, people like you who try and convince people to eat berries or take some other psuedoscience remedy instead of getting proper treatment are far worse than any drug company, and are directly responsible for people succumbing to their cancer.  Go fuck yourself.

[Guest zicomartin]

So which one is less believable?

 

1. Chemotherapy is poison

 

2. Radiation systematically destroys your immune system

 

3. Alan Pardew plays attractive, front foot football

 

4. Cancer cells do not survive in an alkaline environment

 

Im not trying to sell anybody anything. 

 

Im just saying that there are alternatives out there that don't involve dying or emptying your bank account.

 

 

 

[Hanshithispantz]

fucking hell, man.

[ujpest doza]

So which one is less believable?

 

1. Chemotherapy is poison

 

2. Radiation systematically destroys your immune system

 

3. Alan Pardew plays attractive, front foot football

 

4. Cancer cells do not survive in an alkaline environment

 

Im not trying to sell anybody anything. 

 

Im just saying that there are alternatives out there that don't involve dying or emptying your bank account.

 

 

 

Why empty your bank account when treatment is free on the NHS?

 

And the answer is 4.

 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

Suggest you take my outlandish claims to Google and prove otherwise, then.

 

If it wasn't so sad, I wouldn't bring it up.

 

You can choose not to believe me, or you can research the evidence from people who are STILL not dead.

 

Nothing personal.  Was kidding about the Alan Pardew thing.

 

FUCKING LOL.

[BlueStar]

The chemotherapy always fails, its poison.  If you survive 5 years you are considered 'cured' apparently.  But then you die (while apparently cured).  Radiation also destroys your immune system.

 

Cesium and Potassium, on the other hand, doesn't kill you.  Its called alkalizing therapy.  Cancer doesn't survive in an Alkaline environment. 

 

The Cancer lie is perpetuated for financial gain.  Has been for a long time, now. 

 

The real 'cure' is just too 'cheap' to be exploited by the drugs companies.

 

 

Sounds like this kind of email forward nonsense.

http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cancerupdate.asp

 

People have died from trying to self medicate cancer with Cesium.  There is no scientific evidence it works and it can cause issues with heart rhythm, seizures, loss of consciousness, and electrolyte imbalances.

 

Here's a more thorough debunking of some of this type of pseudo-scientific woo, including the magical alkaline system shite. 

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/no-johns-hopkins-did-not-release-update-revealing-truth-about-cancer

 

http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2014/03/24/dont-believe-the-hype-10-persistent-cancer-myths-debunked/#acidic-diets

 

This is biological nonsense. True, cancer cells can’t live in an overly alkaline environment - but neither can any of the other cells in your body.

Blood is usually slightly alkaline. This is tightly regulated by the kidneys within a very narrow and perfectly healthy range. It can’t be changed for any meaningful amount of time by what you eat, and any extra acid or alkali is simply peed out in urine.

To maintain the correct balance within the body, your urine can and does change pH, depending on what you’ve eaten (explained in detail in this post). This can be seen by testing urine pH (acidity) after eating different foods and is the basis of the mistaken belief that diet can “make the body alkaline”. But that’s all you’re changing, and anyone who claims otherwise simply doesn’t understand how the body works.

 

Of course no evidence is good enough, because any findings from actual medical professionals must be a secret plot by Big Pharma and the NWO. The only people worth listening to is someone with a blog, a Diploma of Healology from Professor Moonseed's College of Wellness and a warehouse full of snake oil they want to shift.

[TBG]

So which one is less believable?

 

1. Chemotherapy is poison

 

2. Radiation systematically destroys your immune system

 

3. Alan Pardew plays attractive, front foot football

 

4. Cancer cells do not survive in an alkaline environment

 

Im not trying to sell anybody anything. 

 

Im just saying that there are alternatives out there that don't involve dying or emptying your bank account.

 

 

 

 

http://themavesite.com/TMS-Pictures/Epic/ThatPostGaveMeCancer.jpg

[Disco]

Feel free to talk about this else where (http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php?board=16.0), not exactly the best taste to do so in here tbh.

[John P]

As someone who works in cancer research, I can safely say zicomartin is talking utter bollocks. Not that it really needed saying but there you go.

[Dave]

Last three posts.

[Guest neesy111]

As someone who works in cancer research, I can safely say zicomartin is talking utter bollocks. Not that it really needed saying but there you go.

 

[Bad Mongo]

I'm sure zicomartin's utterly scientific facts are only being repressed by all credible journals due to their refusal to publish anything in the logically required one-sentence-per-paragraph format.

[Kaizero]

I'm so close to just straight up calling zicomartin the c-word. So close. Fuck. Scum of the earth conspiracy theorist motherfuckers. Fuck. So angry.

[Bad Mongo]

I'm so close to just straight up calling zicomartin the c-word. So close. Fuck. Scum of the earth conspiracy theorist motherfuckers. Fuck. So angry.

 

The c-word? Charlatan? It's not libellous.

[NEEJ]

Wasn't it zicomartin who babbled on about the server location thing the other week? Says it all really.

[Elliottman]

Wasn't it zicomartin who babbled on about the server location thing the other week? Says it all really.

 

nuff said.

[Troll]

All this "big pharma is covering up the cure for $$$" talk usually comes from America, where they forget all the countries with public healthcare who would save billions if they had the cure, and all the publicly funded scientific research that goes on.