Guest bimpy474 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Footballers do seem to be doing more weights, rather like the thought of a Jan Molby or Hatem Ben Arfa larding it around still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Footballers do seem to be doing more weights, rather like the thought of a Jan Molby or Hatem Ben Arfa larding it around still. Franny Lee. Actually proper fat. Never a problem with him. Cruyff smoking on the bench. That sort of thing. That's what we need back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Footballers do seem to be doing more weights, rather like the thought of a Jan Molby or Hatem Ben Arfa larding it around still. Franny Lee. Actually proper fat. Never a problem with him. Cruyff smoking on the bench. That sort of thing. That's what we need back. Aye far too many athletes now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 This is defintely being over thought. He wasn't outpacing Championship full backs. He's just crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Never understand why players lose pace when they put on a bit of muscle. Most sprinters look much more muscular. I could understand them not covering as much ground but the pace thing is strange, not many look like they are carrying Mr Universe type muscle Not pace.... agility he was a lot more agile when he first joined and it allowed him to get past people a bit easier. He's lost all that now, you don't really lose pace unless your an utter moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Never understand why players lose pace when they put on a bit of muscle. Most sprinters look much more muscular. I could understand them not covering as much ground but the pace thing is strange, not many look like they are carrying Mr Universe type muscle Not pace.... agility he was a lot more agile when he first joined and it allowed him to get past people a bit easier. He's lost all that now, you don't really lose pace unless your an utter moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I meant merely by lifting weights...... of course you lose pace through age and other ways etc etc. You can't lose pace by lifting weights alone, don't let the point fly over your head next time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Looked quite effective in the middle tonight. Played one lovely ball to Santon to set him clear down the left too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 He's a better defensive midfielder than Tiote, and that's not saying much. It's mainly down to him being a smarter player than Tiote, honestly Tiote has all the attributes to be a DM but hasn't the brains to know what to do. Jonas can read a game and use his muscle to win the ball and than pass it out. He offers no attacking threat and is essentially just functional in the role mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Don't you have to be able to recieve and keep the ball under pressure to be a DM? Tiote has virtually none of the attributes, technically and mentally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Don't you have to be able to recieve and keep the ball under pressure to be a DM? Tiote has virtually none of the attributes, technically and mentally. He wasn't like that when he arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 When Tiote first arrived he did things simple and never really left the middle of the park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Give me a smart player who reads the game well who can tackle alright over a massive 'tackler' who is as thick as 2 planks anyday. Anita is the future tbh, not Jonas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Anita it should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Looked quite effective in the middle tonight. Played one lovely ball to Santon to set him clear down the left too. Nearly always does in a central midfield 3, whisper it quietly though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Gets caught on the ball too much in the premiership playing in there though, but it's by far and away he's best position. Shouldn't be near the starting 11 mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 How does it feel to know that, regardless of how many players we sign, this guy will still manage to notch 30 league appearances this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Give it a rest, man. What matters is, if we get the players we're targeting, he won't be getting played on the wing. He's a useful backup for the central midfield role, who won't get a game ahead of the others in that position. No amount of faux hatred and anguish will change that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Give it a rest, man. What matters is, if we get the players we're targeting, he won't be getting played on the wing. He's a useful backup for the central midfield role, who won't get a game ahead of the others in that position. No amount of faux hatred and anguish will change that. Its the same in pretty much every thread you go in. 'Doesnt matter if we get xxx because Pardew is still in charge'. Tedious as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Only fortune saved his place last season, that's conveniently forgotten. When we played Villa away, Marveaux was supposed to start ahead of him but pulled out with injury. There's also comments from Pardew in January saying we had a mouth-watering front 6 and Jonas wasn't one of the players mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Had a tremendous game at left back against Anzhi. Everyone knows the merits and demerits of starting Jonas everytime; particularly at LW. He only ever genuinely looked effective there in the Championship and every occasion against Wolves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Surely his appearances this season will be limited to the midfield "as and when" needed. Should be nowhere near the attacking 3rd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Surely his appearances this season will be limited to the midfield "as and when" needed. Should be nowhere near the attacking 3rd. Hopefully. I still like him as a part of a midfield trio when required. Overall he's not as bad as people say, though he offers little going forward any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Surely his appearances this season will be limited to the midfield "as and when" needed. Should be nowhere near the attacking 3rd. Hopefully. I still like him as a part of a midfield trio when required. Overall he's not as bad as people say, though he offers little going forward any more. Yeah he can certainly come into the midfield and do a job. He's "functional" more than anything these days but my worry is Pardews inability to dispense with routine in picking players he thinks should be in the team regardless of how they're performing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 How does it feel to know that, regardless of how many players we sign, this guy will still manage to notch 30 league appearances this season? If those 30 league appearances are him playing CM due to injuries and relieving the pressure as a sub, he will be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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