Incognito Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 What exaclty is Joe Gomez's point in the squad? He's been pretty good in a back 3 to be fair to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 What exaclty is Joe Gomez's point in the squad? He's been pretty good in a back 3 to be fair to him. Got it, he's more of a fullback, traditionally but plays in the back 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 What exaclty is Joe Gomez's point in the squad? He's been pretty good in a back 3 to be fair to him. Got it, he's more of a fullback, traditionally but plays in the back 3. Aye played well last match. --- More broadly you could probably put a rolling paper between Tarkowski, Mawson and Lascelles this season and all will probably struggle more not playing in a defence focused side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 What exaclty is Joe Gomez's point in the squad? He's been pretty good in a back 3 to be fair to him. Got it, he's more of a fullback, traditionally but plays in the back 3. Aye played well last match. --- More broadly you could probably put a rolling paper between Tarkowski, Mawson and Lascelles this season and all will probably struggle more not playing in a defence focused side. Agreed. Out of curiosity, do you consider Maguire to be better or worse than that group then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexumaster Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Southgate is off his face looking at those names. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Would have loved to have seen both Shelvey and Lascelles in there. I think they both deserve it. That is through rose tinted specs though. Lascelles was likely the more deserving but there is a lot of competition. I think its a bit silly not to have taken him to have a look though, that is what friendlies are for. He is a great leader and very vocal. Maybe he would add something different in the dressing room and squad. Guess we won't know now until after the world cup. Shelvey still has a lot to prove in terms of discipline and 3 great performances don't really make up for a lot of ill disciplined and poor ones. While Jamaal is the more deserving of the two Shelvey is till the more likely to get on the plane. Simply because he offers something different to our other midfield options I think he is still in with a shot for the summer but that will depend entirely on keeping his form consistent and improving from now until season end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Southgate is off his face looking at those names. Which ones in particular? I have to ask who you'd rather play? We're just not great in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Hopefully Lascelles continues to be missed and Mawson, Maguire or Tarkowski are sniffed out in the summer instead. England have quite a few good no nonsense defenders if they continue as they have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 What exaclty is Joe Gomez's point in the squad? He's been pretty good in a back 3 to be fair to him. Got it, he's more of a fullback, traditionally but plays in the back 3. Aye played well last match. --- More broadly you could probably put a rolling paper between Tarkowski, Mawson and Lascelles this season and all will probably struggle more not playing in a defence focused side. Agreed. Out of curiosity, do you consider Maguire to be better or worse than that group then? Neither better nor worse really. He's definitely better on the ball but he's always looked a bit shaky positionally for me. Depends what you value as the manager. Unless playing a centre back 3 I think I'd always subscribe to the Vidic/Puyol (stopper) Ferdinand/Pique (sweeper) style duo. On the plus side for us in the short-term the chances of Lascelles getting crocked is diminished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexumaster Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Southgate is off his face looking at those names. Which ones in particular? I have to ask who you'd rather play? We're just not great in general. Livermore, Welbeck and Lallana are the ones I scoffed at most. I'm pretty sure there are other lesser-known players who'd fit the bill who've played more and played better. If you're taking a midfielder from the team rock bottom of the league, bang on to go down, we must really be in trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Livermore hasn't even been playing regularly this year. Not that El Rey's judgements on a player mean owt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Southgate is off his face looking at those names. Which ones in particular? I have to ask who you'd rather play? We're just not great in general. Livermore, Welbeck and Lallana are the ones I scoffed at most. I'm pretty sure there are other lesser-known players who'd fit the bill who've played more and played better. If you're taking a midfielder from the team rock bottom of the league, bang on to go down, we must really be in trouble. Lallana must have played about 15 minutes in the last 6 months. I'm possibly making that up, but he's been out for ages hasn't it? It's the old-age England thing of the squad picking itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexumaster Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Livermore hasn't even been playing regularly this year. Not that El Rey's judgements on a player mean owt. Yeah. Either way you look at it, he's a shocking inclusion. I'm not even saying it because I think Newcastle players should be in there, and I can't say who else I'd put in as I don't know other team's squads well enough - but I find it hard to believe he's a hot pick from any angle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The Livermore and Welbeck picks are shocking. Really bad. Livermore plays for bottom of the table team, 3 wins all season, he's scored 0 goals, had 1 assist. Welbeck only recently playing in Europa league, is in terrible form, and isn't scoring. Shite from Southgate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Glad our players get some rest and training instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Welbeck has always been decent for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I genuinely forgot that Welbeck existed. The inclusions of Hart and Livermore are shocking, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I don't actually think Lascelles needs to be in a massively defensive team like. We're good defensively because of him, not the other way round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Madness that he’s been overlooked. Such a shit squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I don't actually think Lascelles needs to be in a massively defensive team like. We're good defensively because of him, not the other way round. Mmm...not so sure about that. He like our other defenders seem completely clueless when we're hit on the counter. Keep our shape and they're fine. That probably is true for most defenders but I think it's clear Rafa's tactics and management is making it a lot easier for him and other defenders. Even Dummett looks fucking class and we all know he's a crap footballer really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Pretty much agree with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Jake Livermore :lol: :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 The manager is Gareth Southgate. Nothing surprises me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Filipe Luis has broken his fibula. Third chance to go to a World Cup and now he most probably won't ever get to play one. In 2010 he was the 3rd choice left back and same in 2014. Feel so bad for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Filipe Luis has broken his fibula. Third chance to go to a World Cup and now he most probably won't ever get to play one. In 2010 he was the 3rd choice left back and same in 2014. Feel so bad for him. What ever happened to Gabigol? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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