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A fully fit first 11 isnt actually that bad:

 

                  Shit keeper

 

Walker    Stones  Lascelles    Rose

 

              Dier      Wilshere

 

Sterling          Lallana          Rashford

 

                      Kane

 

Its just the everything around them thats utterly average/ shit.

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A fully fit first 11 isnt actually that bad:

 

                  s*** keeper

 

Walker    Stones  Lascelles    Rose

 

              Dier      Wilshere

 

Sterling          Lallana          Rashford

 

                      Kane

 

Its just the everything around them thats utterly average/ s***.

 

serious lack of playing time recently for Stones, Rose, Lallana, Rashford (until a week ago): I'd play Alli and Shelvey for Wilshire and Lallana

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Looking at the likes of Livermore & Cook, you can't blame someone for wondering why the far more talented Shelvey isn't in there, but it's all a bit meh really isn't it. Southgate probably has a defensive approach in mind and doesn't see Shelvey as someone who fits that as well as Cook for instance (although I disagree).

 

It's good to see Tarkowski in though, could have just as easily have been our captain but either way it's good to see a lesser known lad who hasn't been involved in past England setups included :thup:

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What exaclty is Joe Gomez's point in the squad?

 

He's been pretty good in a back 3 to be fair to him.

 

Got it, he's more of a fullback, traditionally but plays in the back 3.

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What exaclty is Joe Gomez's point in the squad?

 

He's been pretty good in a back 3 to be fair to him.

 

Got it, he's more of a fullback, traditionally but plays in the back 3.

 

Aye played well last match.

 

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More broadly you could probably put a rolling paper between Tarkowski, Mawson and Lascelles this season and all will probably struggle more not playing in a defence focused side.

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What exaclty is Joe Gomez's point in the squad?

 

He's been pretty good in a back 3 to be fair to him.

 

Got it, he's more of a fullback, traditionally but plays in the back 3.

 

Aye played well last match.

 

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More broadly you could probably put a rolling paper between Tarkowski, Mawson and Lascelles this season and all will probably struggle more not playing in a defence focused side.

 

Agreed. Out of curiosity, do you consider Maguire to be better or worse than that group then?

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Would have loved to have seen both Shelvey and Lascelles in there. I think they both deserve it. That is through rose tinted specs though.

 

Lascelles was likely the more deserving but there is a lot of competition. I think its a bit silly not to have taken him to have a look though, that is what friendlies are for. He is a great leader and very vocal. Maybe he would add something different in the dressing room and squad. Guess we won't know now until after the world cup.

 

Shelvey still has a lot to prove in terms of discipline and 3 great performances don't really make up for a lot of ill disciplined and poor ones. While Jamaal is the more deserving of the two Shelvey is till the more likely to get on the plane. Simply because he offers something different to our other midfield options I think he is still in with a shot for the summer but that will depend entirely on keeping his form consistent and improving from now until season end.

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What exaclty is Joe Gomez's point in the squad?

 

He's been pretty good in a back 3 to be fair to him.

 

Got it, he's more of a fullback, traditionally but plays in the back 3.

 

Aye played well last match.

 

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More broadly you could probably put a rolling paper between Tarkowski, Mawson and Lascelles this season and all will probably struggle more not playing in a defence focused side.

 

Agreed. Out of curiosity, do you consider Maguire to be better or worse than that group then?

 

Neither better nor worse really. He's definitely better on the ball but he's always looked a bit shaky positionally for me. Depends what you value as the manager.

 

Unless playing a centre back 3 I think I'd always subscribe to the Vidic/Puyol (stopper) Ferdinand/Pique (sweeper) style duo.

 

On the plus side for us in the short-term the chances of Lascelles getting crocked is diminished.

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Southgate is off his face looking at those names.

 

Which ones in particular?

 

I have to ask who you'd rather play? We're just not great in general.

 

Livermore, Welbeck and Lallana are the ones I scoffed at most. I'm pretty sure there are other lesser-known players who'd fit the bill who've played more and played better. If you're taking a midfielder from the team rock bottom of the league, bang on to go down, we must really be in trouble.

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Southgate is off his face looking at those names.

 

Which ones in particular?

 

I have to ask who you'd rather play? We're just not great in general.

 

Livermore, Welbeck and Lallana are the ones I scoffed at most. I'm pretty sure there are other lesser-known players who'd fit the bill who've played more and played better. If you're taking a midfielder from the team rock bottom of the league, bang on to go down, we must really be in trouble.

 

Lallana must have played about 15 minutes in the last 6 months. I'm possibly making that up, but he's been out for ages hasn't it?

 

It's the old-age England thing of the squad picking itself.

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Livermore hasn't even been playing regularly this year. Not that El Rey's judgements on a player mean owt.

 

Yeah. Either way you look at it, he's a shocking inclusion. I'm not even saying it because I think Newcastle players should be in there, and I can't say who else I'd put in as I don't know other team's squads well enough - but I find it hard to believe he's a hot pick from any angle.

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The Livermore and Welbeck picks are shocking. Really bad.

 

Livermore plays for bottom of the table team, 3 wins all season, he's scored 0 goals, had 1 assist.  :lol:

 

Welbeck only recently playing in Europa league, is in terrible form, and isn't scoring. Shite from Southgate.

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